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  Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is ****909 crazy.molly@lavache.com - 2021-04-04 21:30 +0200
    Re: Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is ****909 Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2021-04-04 21:50 +0200
    Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is ******* Stephan Lachnit <stephanlachnit@debian.org> - 2021-04-04 22:00 +0200
      Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is ******* crazy.molly@lavache.com - 2021-04-04 22:20 +0200
        Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is ******* Stephan Lachnit <stephanlachnit@debian.org> - 2021-04-04 22:50 +0200
          Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is ******* crazy.molly@lavache.com - 2021-04-04 23:30 +0200
            Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is ******* Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <jpmengual@debian.org> - 2021-04-04 23:50 +0200
    Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is ****909 Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-04-04 23:50 +0200

#1054623 — Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is ****909

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-project@lists.debian.org,debian-vote@lists.debian.org,debian-devel@lists.debian.org


We are contributors to Debian

The contribution of every one of us makes the name Debian respectable

We can't allow a crazy woman who slept with a past project leader to hijack the name of the project and use it to scar volunteers.  This happened to many times.  It stops now.

Please stop!  Delete all fascism and defamation about any volunteer that has been instigated from Debian in any form whatsoever.  Delete it from the vote, web pages, search engines.

Please stop!  Delete all negative options from the RMS vote.  We only want positive options or nothing.  We will not tolerate any outcome that is negative for a volunteer

If the mob does not respect our request, we are making a data dump of all the DebConf personal data.  DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is ****909.

Privacy for everybody or privacy for nobody

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#1054624

On Sun, Apr 04, 2021 at 09:22:16PM +0200, crazy.molly@lavache.com wrote:
> We are contributors to Debian
> 
> The contribution of every one of us makes the name Debian respectable

> We can't allow a crazy woman who slept with a past project leader to hijack

Go away, FakeMikee.  We know what your purposes are.


Meow!
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⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ animals, hung out and licked or scratched our private parts.
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ Cats domesticated us 9500 years ago, and immediately we got
⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ agriculture, towns then cities.     -- whitroth on /.

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#1054625 — Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is *******

> We are contributors to Debian
>
> The contribution of every one of us makes the name Debian respectable

If you were, why do you try to destroy it with this attempt?

> Please stop!  Delete all fascism and defamation about any volunteer that has been instigated from Debian in any form whatsoever.  Delete it from the vote, web pages, search engines.
>
> Please stop!  Delete all negative options from the RMS vote.  We only want positive options or nothing.  We will not tolerate any outcome that is negative for a volunteer
>
> If the mob does not respect our request, we are making a data dump of all the DebConf personal data.

Wtf please relax. The vote isn't even finished. And let's assume the
project would vote against it, why do you want everything to be
deleted? That's just stupid.

Also, let's suppose you are a contributor to Debian (which I doubt),
why do you contribute to a project which rules you don't respect? Why
do you try to hurt everyone, even those who might vote in favor of
supporting RMS?

Regards,
Stephan

PS: if you reply to this, please don't share the alleged last digits
to the passport number.

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#1054629 — Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is *******

> If you were, why do you try to destroy it with this attempt?


Why does the toxic woman want to destroy reputations?

Destroy nobody - Or destroy everybody!  You can't have it both ways.

If Debian is a vehicle for defamation, every one of you faces full consequences.

Your jobs are the targets.  Your families are targets.

No volunteer should have to suffer you toxic people

Molly is the toxic icing on the toxic cake

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#1054631 — Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is *******

> Why does the toxic woman want to destroy reputations?

If you refer to Jonathan Carter, that isn't even the person that
started the vote, nor an original author of the open letter. Do your
research, tbh to me it seems like you are a complete outsider.

> Destroy nobody - Or destroy everybody!  You can't have it both ways.

First of all, nobody wants to "destroy" RMS. Calling someone to resign
isn't destroying them, especially if they were just (secretly)
elected.

Secondly, why are you so toxic and want to "destroy" everybody? There
is really no point, all you do is make the FLOSS community weaker and
more divided. And since you seem to care about RMS and his ideas, I
don't think that is something you would like.

> If Debian is a vehicle for defamation, every one of you faces full consequences.

Debian is a democracy. Assume one person votes in favor of RMS (which
as you can see some people will do), why do you want them to face your
alleged consequences? That doesn't make sense. They have no power to
do the things you ask for. In fact, nobody in Debian has. Again, I
don't think you understand the Debian project at all.

> Your jobs are the targets.  Your families are targets.

I can understand that you are angry even if I don't agree with your
views, but I don't think anyone here wants to harm RMS. Everyone here
just wants the best for the FLOSS community. Why do you want to harm
them so badly?

Opinions on how what's the best for the community may differ, but
that's fine. Discussions are healthy, as long as they stay friendly
(btw your mails aren't). I have learned a lot from discussions, and
yes sometimes people (me included) get unfriendly or say things that
turn out to be false. But as long as we apologize for mistakes, we can
grow from it.

> No volunteer should have to suffer you toxic people

Don't you think, just maybe, that we shouldn't suffer from your
toxicity as well? Especially since we will suffer much more than you
can ever suffer from this. I mean, what's the worst that can happen
from your point of view? RMS resigns again? Then everything would be
just like a month ago.

Regards,
Stephan

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#1054636 — Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is *******

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If you don't want these ego-maniacs to use your name in their vendettas you can resign from Debian.  This is the choice.  How many people will resign if Debian votes to attack Stallman?  Please tell us before the vote finishes so we call can know this now.



No matter the outcome of this vote.  Having the vote at all suggests that people are expendable.  Volunteers can be hung over the side of the ship while people have an email argument about what to do next.



Why don't you understand how toxic this is?



There are so many years of defamation in Debian now.  Delete it all now.  Delete the negative options from the vote now.  Please stop or we stop you.






From: Stephan Lachnit <stephanlachnit@debian.org>
To: crazy.molly@lavache.com
Subject: Re: Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is *******
Date: 04/04/2021 22:38:20 Europe/Paris
Cc: 986382@bugs.debian.org;
   debian-devel@lists.debian.org

> Why does the toxic woman want to destroy reputations?

If you refer to Jonathan Carter, that isn't even the person that
started the vote, nor an original author of the open letter. Do your
research, tbh to me it seems like you are a complete outsider.

> Destroy nobody - Or destroy everybody! You can't have it both ways.

First of all, nobody wants to "destroy" RMS. Calling someone to resign
isn't destroying them, especially if they were just (secretly)
elected.

Secondly, why are you so toxic and want to "destroy" everybody? There
is really no point, all you do is make the FLOSS community weaker and
more divided. And since you seem to care about RMS and his ideas, I
don't think that is something you would like.

> If Debian is a vehicle for defamation, every one of you faces full consequences.

Debian is a democracy. Assume one person votes in favor of RMS (which
as you can see some people will do), why do you want them to face your
alleged consequences? That doesn't make sense. They have no power to
do the things you ask for. In fact, nobody in Debian has. Again, I
don't think you understand the Debian project at all.

> Your jobs are the targets. Your families are targets.

I can understand that you are angry even if I don't agree with your
views, but I don't think anyone here wants to harm RMS. Everyone here
just wants the best for the FLOSS community. Why do you want to harm
them so badly?

Opinions on how what's the best for the community may differ, but
that's fine. Discussions are healthy, as long as they stay friendly
(btw your mails aren't). I have learned a lot from discussions, and
yes sometimes people (me included) get unfriendly or say things that
turn out to be false. But as long as we apologize for mistakes, we can
grow from it.

> No volunteer should have to suffer you toxic people

Don't you think, just maybe, that we shouldn't suffer from your
toxicity as well? Especially since we will suffer much more than you
can ever suffer from this. I mean, what's the worst that can happen
from your point of view? RMS resigns again? Then everything would be
just like a month ago.

Regards,
Stephan

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#1054640 — Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is *******

Hi guys,

Please stop replying. That is a troll, will be banned quickly, dont 
maintain it alive. Just ignore, listmaster and bts will do what is 
needed. Keep power for other more interesting things.

Regards

Le 04/04/2021 à 23:18, crazy.molly@lavache.com a écrit :
> 
> 
> If you don't want these ego-maniacs to use your name in their vendettas 
> you can resign from Debian.  This is the choice.  How many people will 
> resign if Debian votes to attack Stallman?  Please tell us before the 
> vote finishes so we call can know this now.
> 
> No matter the outcome of this vote.  Having the vote at all suggests 
> that people are expendable.  Volunteers can be hung over the side of the 
> ship while people have an email argument about what to do next.
> 
> Why don't you understand how toxic this is?
> 
> There are so many years of defamation in Debian now.  Delete it all 
> now.  Delete the negative options from the vote now.  Please stop or we 
> stop you.
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Stephan Lachnit <stephanlachnit@debian.org>
>> To: crazy.molly@lavache.com
>> Subject: Re: Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is *******
>> Date: 04/04/2021 22:38:20 Europe/Paris
>> Cc: 986382@bugs.debian.org;
>>    debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>>
>> > Why does the toxic woman want to destroy reputations?
>>
>> If you refer to Jonathan Carter, that isn't even the person that
>> started the vote, nor an original author of the open letter. Do your
>> research, tbh to me it seems like you are a complete outsider.
>>
>> > Destroy nobody - Or destroy everybody! You can't have it both ways.
>>
>> First of all, nobody wants to "destroy" RMS. Calling someone to resign
>> isn't destroying them, especially if they were just (secretly)
>> elected.
>>
>> Secondly, why are you so toxic and want to "destroy" everybody? There
>> is really no point, all you do is make the FLOSS community weaker and
>> more divided. And since you seem to care about RMS and his ideas, I
>> don't think that is something you would like.
>>
>> > If Debian is a vehicle for defamation, every one of you faces full 
>> consequences.
>>
>> Debian is a democracy. Assume one person votes in favor of RMS (which
>> as you can see some people will do), why do you want them to face your
>> alleged consequences? That doesn't make sense. They have no power to
>> do the things you ask for. In fact, nobody in Debian has. Again, I
>> don't think you understand the Debian project at all.
>>
>> > Your jobs are the targets. Your families are targets.
>>
>> I can understand that you are angry even if I don't agree with your
>> views, but I don't think anyone here wants to harm RMS. Everyone here
>> just wants the best for the FLOSS community. Why do you want to harm
>> them so badly?
>>
>> Opinions on how what's the best for the community may differ, but
>> that's fine. Discussions are healthy, as long as they stay friendly
>> (btw your mails aren't). I have learned a lot from discussions, and
>> yes sometimes people (me included) get unfriendly or say things that
>> turn out to be false. But as long as we apologize for mistakes, we can
>> grow from it.
>>
>> > No volunteer should have to suffer you toxic people
>>
>> Don't you think, just maybe, that we shouldn't suffer from your
>> toxicity as well? Especially since we will suffer much more than you
>> can ever suffer from this. I mean, what's the worst that can happen
>> from your point of view? RMS resigns again? Then everything would be
>> just like a month ago.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stephan

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#1054639

Le dimanche 04 avril 2021 à 21:22:16+0200, crazy.molly@lavache.com a écrit :
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> X-Debbugs-CC: debian-project@lists.debian.org,debian-vote@lists.debian.org,debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> 
> 
> We are contributors to Debian
> 
> The contribution of every one of us makes the name Debian respectable
> 
> We can't allow a crazy woman who slept with a past project leader to hijack the name of the project and use it to scar volunteers.  This happened to many times.  It stops now.
> 
> Please stop!  Delete all fascism and defamation about any volunteer that has been instigated from Debian in any form whatsoever.  Delete it from the vote, web pages, search engines.
> 
> Please stop!  Delete all negative options from the RMS vote.  We only want positive options or nothing.  We will not tolerate any outcome that is negative for a volunteer
> 
> If the mob does not respect our request, we are making a data dump of all the DebConf personal data.  DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is ****909.
> 
> Privacy for everybody or privacy for nobody

Go to sleep, Dan, you're drunk.

-- 
Pierre-Elliott Bécue

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