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| Started by | Jeffrey Ratcliffe <jffry@posteo.net> |
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| First post | 2020-11-30 19:10 +0100 |
| Last post | 2020-12-03 18:30 +0100 |
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Bug#976157: thunderbird: Thunderbird refuses to decrypt inline PGP message Jeffrey Ratcliffe <jffry@posteo.net> - 2020-11-30 19:10 +0100
Bug#976157: thunderbird: Thunderbird refuses to decrypt inline PGP message Carsten Schoenert <c.schoenert@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 20:00 +0100
Bug#976157: thunderbird: Thunderbird refuses to decrypt inline PGP message Jeff <jffry@posteo.net> - 2020-12-01 20:20 +0100
Bug#976157: thunderbird: Thunderbird refuses to decrypt inline PGP message Carsten Schoenert <c.schoenert@t-online.de> - 2020-12-01 20:50 +0100
Bug#976157: thunderbird: Thunderbird refuses to decrypt inline PGP message Jeff <jffry@posteo.net> - 2020-12-02 18:20 +0100
Bug#976157: thunderbird: Thunderbird refuses to decrypt inline PGP message Carsten Schoenert <c.schoenert@t-online.de> - 2020-12-03 06:20 +0100
Bug#976157: thunderbird: Thunderbird refuses to decrypt inline PGP message Jeff <jffry@posteo.net> - 2020-12-03 18:30 +0100
| From | Jeffrey Ratcliffe <jffry@posteo.net> |
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| Date | 2020-11-30 19:10 +0100 |
| Subject | Bug#976157: thunderbird: Thunderbird refuses to decrypt inline PGP message |
| Message-ID | <BgVMB-3hx-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
Package: thunderbird
Version: 1:78.5.0-1
Severity: normal
Dear Maintainer,
*** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate ***
* What led up to the situation?
I was sent an inline PGP message
* What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
ineffective)?
In the past, enigmail recognised and decrypted these with no problem.
* What was the outcome of this action?
Now, thunderbird does not recognise that the message is encrypted, and pressing
the OpenPGP button, thunderbird claims that it is not encrypted.
* What outcome did you expect instead?
I expected Thunderbird to recognise and decrypt the message, just as enigmail
had done in the past.
*** End of the template - remove these template lines ***
-- System Information:
Debian Release: bullseye/sid
APT prefers testing-debug
APT policy: (500, 'testing-debug'), (500, 'testing')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386
Kernel: Linux 5.9.0-3-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU threads)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled
Versions of packages thunderbird depends on:
ii debianutils 4.11.2
ii fontconfig 2.13.1-4.2
ii libatk1.0-0 2.36.0-2
ii libbotan-2-17 2.17.2+dfsg-2
ii libbz2-1.0 1.0.8-4
ii libc6 2.31-4
ii libcairo-gobject2 1.16.0-4
ii libcairo2 1.16.0-4
ii libdbus-1-3 1.12.20-1
ii libdbus-glib-1-2 0.110-5
ii libevent-2.1-7 2.1.12-stable-1
ii libffi7 3.3-5
ii libfontconfig1 2.13.1-4.2
ii libfreetype6 2.10.2+dfsg-4
ii libgcc-s1 10.2.0-16
ii libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 2.40.0+dfsg-7
ii libglib2.0-0 2.66.3-1
ii libgtk-3-0 3.24.23-2
ii libicu67 67.1-4
ii libjson-c5 0.15-1
ii libnspr4 2:4.29-1
ii libnss3 2:3.59-1
ii libpango-1.0-0 1.46.2-3
ii libstdc++6 10.2.0-16
ii libvpx6 1.8.2-1
ii libx11-6 2:1.6.12-1
ii libx11-xcb1 2:1.6.12-1
ii libxcb-shm0 1.14-2
ii libxcb1 1.14-2
ii libxext6 2:1.3.3-1+b2
ii libxrender1 1:0.9.10-1
ii psmisc 23.3-1
ii x11-utils 7.7+5
ii zlib1g 1:1.2.11.dfsg-2
Versions of packages thunderbird recommends:
ii hunspell-ar [hunspell-dictionary] 3.2-1.1
ii hunspell-be [hunspell-dictionary] 0.53-3
ii hunspell-bg [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-bn [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-bs [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-ca [hunspell-dictionary] 3.0.6+repack1-1
ii hunspell-cs [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-da [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-de-at [hunspell-dictionary] 20161207-8
ii hunspell-de-ch [hunspell-dictionary] 20161207-8
ii hunspell-de-de [hunspell-dictionary] 20161207-8
ii hunspell-en-gb [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-en-us [hunspell-dictionary] 1:2019.10.06-1
ii hunspell-eu [hunspell-dictionary] 0.5.20151110-5
ii hunspell-fr-classical [hunspell-dictionary] 1:6.4.1-1
ii hunspell-gl [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-gu [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-hi [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-hr [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-hu [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-id [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-is [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-it [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-kk [myspell-dictionary] 1.1-2
ii hunspell-kmr [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-ko [hunspell-dictionary] 0.7.92-1
ii hunspell-lt [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-lv [hunspell-dictionary] 1.4.0-1
ii hunspell-ne [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-nl [hunspell-dictionary] 2:2.10-6
ii hunspell-pl [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-pt-br [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-pt-pt [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-ro [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-ru [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-se [hunspell-dictionary] 1.0~beta6.20081222-1.2
ii hunspell-si [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-sl [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-sr [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-sv [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-te [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-th [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii hunspell-vi [hunspell-dictionary] 1:7.0.1-1
ii myspell-eo [myspell-dictionary] 2.1.2000.02.25-57
ii myspell-es [myspell-dictionary] 1.11-15
ii myspell-et [myspell-dictionary] 1:20030606-30
ii myspell-fa [myspell-dictionary] 0.20070816-3.1
ii myspell-ga [myspell-dictionary] 2.0-27
ii myspell-he [myspell-dictionary] 1.4-3
ii myspell-nb [myspell-dictionary] 2.2-4
ii myspell-nn [myspell-dictionary] 2.2-4
ii myspell-sk [myspell-dictionary] 0.5.5a-2.3
ii myspell-sq [myspell-dictionary] 1.6.4-1
ii myspell-uk [myspell-dictionary] 1.7.1-2
Versions of packages thunderbird suggests:
ii apparmor 2.13.5-1+b1
ii fonts-lyx 2.3.5.2-1
ii libgssapi-krb5-2 1.18.3-4
ii libgtk2.0-0 2.24.32-4
-- no debconf information
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| From | Carsten Schoenert <c.schoenert@t-online.de> |
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| Date | 2020-11-30 20:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BgWz0-3xM-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1035196 |
Hello Jeffrey, Am 30.11.20 um 18:58 schrieb Jeffrey Ratcliffe: > I was sent an inline PGP message is there a particular reason why you want to use inline PGP? This is an old technique that shouldn't get used any longer, it's a dead horse. PGP/MIME is the thing users should use instead. Thunderbird uses PGP/MIME by default and I currently see no way to enforce inline PGP for sending encrypted emails with Thunderbird? You are aware that inline PGP is incompatible while using with HTML emails? -- Regards Carsten
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| From | Jeff <jffry@posteo.net> |
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| Date | 2020-12-01 20:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BhjlT-11x-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1035203 |
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Hi Carsten, On 30/11/2020 19:42, Carsten Schoenert wrote: > is there a particular reason why you want to use inline PGP? This is an > old technique that shouldn't get used any longer, it's a dead horse. > PGP/MIME is the thing users should use instead. Thunderbird uses > PGP/MIME by default and I currently see no way to enforce inline PGP for > sending encrypted emails with Thunderbird? > > You are aware that inline PGP is incompatible while using with HTML emails? Other people send me inline PGP. I would like to be able to read what they have written. I am happy sending with PGP/MIME. Regards Jeff
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| From | Carsten Schoenert <c.schoenert@t-online.de> |
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| Date | 2020-12-01 20:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BhjOV-1bq-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1035317 |
Hello Jeff, Am 01.12.20 um 20:09 schrieb Jeff: ... >> You are aware that inline PGP is incompatible while using with HTML emails? > > Other people send me inline PGP. I would like to be able to read what > they have written. yes, of course. But remember my sentence above your answer. If the sender is using inline PGP with an HTML message the behavior is undefined, in the end Thunderbird can't decrypt the message and there is nothing we can do about this. You need to have a look at the source of the email, Ctrl + U will show you the message at source level. Look for 'Content-Type', if you find a line Content-Type: text/plain; charset=...... than the message is text only. If you see Content-Type: multipart/mixed; (or similar) than you look at a HTML message. In my eyes best is to convince the sender to not use inline PGP in the long run. If the sender is using MS Exchange you have likely no chance to get a RFC correct message here. The following bug from Bugzilla is marked as fixed in 78.5.0, but I still can't open the attached encrypted example messages. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1672851 Without further information what the message is build of you have problems with we can't do any useful error detection. I expect you will have the same problems if you use an upstream version of Thunderbird from Mozilla. If yes your bug report should go into Bugzilla so MZLNA have a chance to fix the underlying issue (if possible). > I am happy sending with PGP/MIME. Fine, then your setup is correct and futurproof. -- Regards Carsten
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| From | Jeff <jffry@posteo.net> |
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| Date | 2020-12-02 18:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BhDXk-5j9-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1035327 |
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Hi Carsten, On 01/12/2020 20:43, Carsten Schoenert wrote: > yes, of course. But remember my sentence above your answer. If the > sender is using inline PGP with an HTML message the behavior is > undefined, in the end Thunderbird can't decrypt the message and there is > nothing we can do about this. No. They are all plain text. > Without further information what the message is build of you have > problems with we can't do any useful error detection. > I expect you will have the same problems if you use an upstream version > of Thunderbird from Mozilla. If yes your bug report should go into > Bugzilla so MZLNA have a chance to fix the underlying issue (if possible). Enigmail had no problem with these messages, and if Thunderbird cannot recognise them, then I cannot read them any more (including all the historical ones sitting my my mailbox.) Regards Jeff
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| From | Carsten Schoenert <c.schoenert@t-online.de> |
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| Date | 2020-12-03 06:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BhPc5-48i-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1035445 |
Hello Jeff, Am 02.12.20 um 18:11 schrieb Jeff: > No. They are all plain text. then I even more don't understand why people still using inline PGP... Self-made problems. >> Without further information what the message is build of you have >> problems with we can't do any useful error detection. >> I expect you will have the same problems if you use an upstream version >> of Thunderbird from Mozilla. If yes your bug report should go into >> Bugzilla so MZLNA have a chance to fix the underlying issue (if possible). > > Enigmail had no problem with these messages, and if Thunderbird cannot > recognise them, then I cannot read them any more (including all the > historical ones sitting my my mailbox.) Yes, as said, I can't do anything if we can't readjust that behaviour. I expect that the outcome is the same if you are using a prebuild version from upstream. I'm also quite sure this all isn't a Debian specific issue. Means, the report need to get addressed upstream. So, please check if the same issue is happen if you are using from MZLNA. > https://download-origin.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/thunderbird/releases/78.5.1/linux-x86_64/ If the issue is also happen here please raise a report in the Bugzilla issue tracker from Mozilla. > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/home Afterwards we can connect this Debian report with the upstream report and will get informed once the status in Bugzilla is changing. -- Regards Carsten
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| From | Jeff <jffry@posteo.net> |
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| Date | 2020-12-03 18:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <Bi0Ax-2Of-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1035498 |
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On 03/12/2020 06:10, Carsten Schoenert wrote: > If the issue is also happen here please raise a report in the Bugzilla > issue tracker from Mozilla. Somebody beat me to it: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1679018 And it looks as though it is fixed in TB79.
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