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| Started by | Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> |
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| First post | 2020-07-15 23:00 +0200 |
| Last post | 2020-07-18 01:40 +0200 |
| Articles | 8 — 2 participants |
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Bug#965085: reportbug: s to add x-debbugs-cc recipients is gone Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> - 2020-07-15 23:00 +0200
Bug#965085: reportbug: s to add x-debbugs-cc recipients is gone Nis Martensen <nis.martensen@web.de> - 2020-07-16 23:10 +0200
Bug#965085: reportbug: s to add x-debbugs-cc recipients is gone Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> - 2020-07-17 00:00 +0200
Bug#965085: reportbug: s to add x-debbugs-cc recipients is gone Nis Martensen <nis.martensen@web.de> - 2020-07-17 20:50 +0200
Bug#965085: reportbug: s to add x-debbugs-cc recipients is gone Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> - 2020-07-17 23:10 +0200
Bug#965085: reportbug: s to add x-debbugs-cc recipients is gone Nis Martensen <nis.martensen@web.de> - 2020-07-17 23:20 +0200
Bug#965085: reportbug: s to add x-debbugs-cc recipients is gone Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> - 2020-07-17 23:50 +0200
Bug#965085: reportbug: s to add x-debbugs-cc recipients is gone Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> - 2020-07-18 01:40 +0200
| From | Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> |
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| Date | 2020-07-15 23:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Bug#965085: reportbug: s to add x-debbugs-cc recipients is gone |
| Message-ID | <AsWFr-6m9-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
Package: reportbug Version: 7.7.0 Severity: normal […] Report will be sent to Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org> Submit this report on openssh-server (e to edit) [Y|n|a|c|e|i|l|m|p|q|d|t|?]? s Invalid selection. -- Package-specific info: ** Environment settings: EDITOR="/usr/bin/sensible-editor" VISUAL="/usr/bin/jupp" DEBEMAIL="Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de>" INTERFACE="text" ** /home/tglase/.reportbugrc: reportbug_version "6.6.6" mode advanced ui text -- System Information: Debian Release: bullseye/sid APT prefers unreleased APT policy: (500, 'unreleased'), (500, 'buildd-unstable'), (500, 'unstable'), (100, 'experimental') Architecture: x32 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386, amd64 Kernel: Linux 5.7.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU threads) Kernel taint flags: TAINT_FIRMWARE_WORKAROUND Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/lksh Init: sysvinit (via /sbin/init) Versions of packages reportbug depends on: ii apt 2.1.7 ii python3 3.8.2-3 ii python3-reportbug 7.7.0 ii sensible-utils 0.0.12+nmu1 reportbug recommends no packages. Versions of packages reportbug suggests: pn claws-mail <none> ii debconf-utils 1.5.74 ii debsums 3.0.0 pn dlocate <none> pn emacs-bin-common <none> ii file 1:5.38-5 ii gnupg 2.2.20-1 ii postfix [mail-transport-agent] 3.5.4-1 pn python3-urwid <none> pn reportbug-gtk <none> ii xdg-utils 1.1.3-2 Versions of packages python3-reportbug depends on: ii apt 2.1.7 ii file 1:5.38-5 ii python3 3.8.2-3 ii python3-apt 2.1.3 ii python3-debian 0.1.37 ii python3-debianbts 3.0.2 ii python3-requests 2.23.0+dfsg-2 ii sensible-utils 0.0.12+nmu1 python3-reportbug suggests no packages. -- no debconf information
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| From | Nis Martensen <nis.martensen@web.de> |
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| Date | 2020-07-16 23:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AtjiF-3m8-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1018101 |
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Report will be sent to Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org> > Submit this report on openssh-server (e to edit) [Y|n|a|c|e|i|l|m|p|q|d|t|?]? s > Invalid selection. Thank you Thorsten for your report. The removal of this menu option is not a bug; this was a deliberate decision. Two factors led to this: - Reportbug's MUA support has been significantly improved in the last version, although with the limitation that custom headers cannot be passed to all MUAs. Since that same menu offers an option to choose a mailer for bug submission, we'd have had two options in the same menu that interact very poorly. - There is an excellent alternative to setting an x-debbugs-cc header -- you can set it as a pseudoheader. Just add a corresponding line to the pseudoheader section of your report in the message editor. No special UI or menu option is needed. The BTS supports x-debbugs-cc as pseudoheader just fine. An additional benefit of doing it that way is that recipients can immediately see why they received a copy. So IMO there was no good reason any more to keep that menu option. Further notes: - If you were used to adding an x-debbugs-cc to yourself for most bugs you submit, you might want to check the list-cc-me (likely together with no-cc) configuration options. This now also sets the x-debbugs-cc as a pseudo-header, so you can edit it in the message editor. - Users still preferring to set this as a real header can use the -H/--header command line option or the 'header' configuration directive, or their own MUA's custom header facility if it has one. They should avoid setting x-debbugs-cc as a pseudoheader in their messages too, though, because I'm not sure both will be processed if both are present. Hope this helps!
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| From | Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> |
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| Date | 2020-07-17 00:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <Atk53-3Cp-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1018239 |
Nis Martensen dixit:
> - Reportbug's MUA support has been significantly improved in the last
… but I run reportbug only on systems where I have no MUA…
> - There is an excellent alternative to setting an x-debbugs-cc header
>-- you can set it as a pseudoheader. Just add a corresponding line to
>the pseudoheader section of your report in the message editor. No
But that’s a lot to type and a weird string that invites typos.
(I mean, sure, I’ll probably make it, but consider other users.)
> - If you were used to adding an x-debbugs-cc to yourself for most bugs
>you submit, you might want to check the list-cc-me (likely together with
>no-cc) configuration options. This now also sets the x-debbugs-cc as a
>pseudo-header, so you can edit it in the message editor.
Does reportbug --configure expose this at least?
I did notice diverging behaviour between some systems; those
installed more recently put me on X-Debbugs-Cc, but not visibly
in the message.
> - Users still preferring to set this as a real header can use the
I don’t really care about this header one way or the other, but
I’ve put me and other people involved on it for many bugs I sent
and am direly missing this feature.
So please bring it back.
Thanks,
//mirabilos
--
> Wish I had pine to hand :-( I'll give lynx a try, thanks.
Michael Schmitz on nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.ports.68k
a.k.a. {news.gmane.org/nntp}#news.gmane.linux.debian.ports.68k in pine
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| From | Nis Martensen <nis.martensen@web.de> |
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| Date | 2020-07-17 20:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AtDAK-7Yg-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1018246 |
On 16.07.2020 23.44, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Nis Martensen dixit: > >> - There is an excellent alternative to setting an x-debbugs-cc header >> -- you can set it as a pseudoheader. Just add a corresponding line to >> the pseudoheader section of your report in the message editor. No > > But that’s a lot to type and a weird string that invites typos. > (I mean, sure, I’ll probably make it, but consider other users.) If you enable the list-cc-me option, you don't have to type it. You'll already have that line in the message editor and can add any additional addresses you like. I really recommend using that option. >> - If you were used to adding an x-debbugs-cc to yourself for most bugs >> you submit, you might want to check the list-cc-me (likely together with >> no-cc) configuration options. This now also sets the x-debbugs-cc as a >> pseudo-header, so you can edit it in the message editor. > > Does reportbug --configure expose this at least? It has been the default since November 2018, although only for users without mta or custom smtphost; otherwise it is still commented out when the configuration file is written. We should possibly enable it for everybody by default in new configuration files. > I did notice diverging behaviour between some systems; those > installed more recently put me on X-Debbugs-Cc, but not visibly > in the message. Older reportbug versions already used to set X-Debbugs-Cc via a 'header' directive in the config file. This was changed to list-cc-me in 2018. The visibility change was just implemented and uploaded a few days ago, so it is not surprising if you haven't encountered it yet. > So please bring it back. I'm quite convinced that this is not a good idea. We'd have to add code to first identify any existing X-Debbugs-Cc pseudoheader and then add the new recipient to it, or add a new line if there isn't any. And we'd do this inside a message that was just edited by the user anyway and that can easily be edited further. If this were your developer time, would you want to spend it on that?
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| From | Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> |
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| Date | 2020-07-17 23:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AtFMd-Zz-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1018367 |
Nis Martensen dixit: >We'd have to add code to first identify any existing X-Debbugs-Cc >pseudoheader and then add the new recipient to it, or add a new line if Yes, of course. >If this were your developer time, would you want to spend it on that? Absolutely! In addition to that, you probably should do that anyway and convert between headers and pseudoheaders, so that only one is given, since you said giving both can lead to unexpected results, so the software really ought to prevent people from doing that. bye, //mirabilos -- „Cool, /usr/share/doc/mksh/examples/uhr.gz ist ja ein Grund, mksh auf jedem System zu installieren.“ -- XTaran auf der OpenRheinRuhr, ganz begeistert (EN: “[…]uhr.gz is a reason to install mksh on every system.”)
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| From | Nis Martensen <nis.martensen@web.de> |
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| Date | 2020-07-17 23:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AtFVT-12N-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1018379 |
On 17.07.2020 23.02, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Nis Martensen dixit: >> If this were your developer time, would you want to spend it on that? > > Absolutely! > > In addition to that, you probably should do that anyway and convert > between headers and pseudoheaders, so that only one is given, since > you said giving both can lead to unexpected results, so the software > really ought to prevent people from doing that. Looking forward to receiving your patches :)
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| From | Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> |
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| Date | 2020-07-17 23:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AtGoV-1cJ-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1018381 |
Nis Martensen dixit: >Looking forward to receiving your patches :) $ file /usr/bin/reportbug /usr/bin/reportbug: Python script, ASCII text executable No, thanks. bye, //mirabilos -- FWIW, I'm quite impressed with mksh interactively. I thought it was much *much* more bare bones. But it turns out it beats the living hell out of ksh93 in that respect. I'd even consider it for my daily use if I hadn't wasted half my life on my zsh setup. :-) -- Frank Terbeck in #!/bin/mksh
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| From | Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> |
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| Date | 2020-07-18 01:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AtI7o-2ge-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1018367 |
Control: severity -1 wishlist Control: thanks Nis Martensen dixit: >> Does reportbug --configure expose this at least? > >It has been the default since November 2018, although only for users >without mta or custom smtphost; otherwise it is still commented out when >the configuration file is written. We should possibly enable it for Ah, if I re-run reportbug --configure, I get asked the same questions as usual (and can just confirm), but the configuration file written has different entries. And with that, the bugreport in $EDITOR has an X-Debbugs-Cc: line, already including myself, and which I just need to amend with more addresses. That counts as usable workaround until the, necessary due to other reasons as outlined, fix is ready. Only thing going to confuse me now is that only bullseye/sid systems will have this, not the others… Thanks, //mirabilos -- 15:39⎜«mika:#grml» mira|AO: "mit XFree86® wär’ das nicht passiert" - muhaha 15:48⎜<thkoehler:#grml> also warum machen die xorg Jungs eigentlich alles kaputt? :) 15:49⎜<novoid:#grml> thkoehler: weil sie als Kinder nie den gebauten Turm selber umschmeissen durften? -- ~/.Xmodmap wonders…
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