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  Bug#954823: hydrogen: Qt5 version available Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2020-05-30 22:10 +0200
    Bug#954823: hydrogen: Qt5 version available Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2020-05-30 22:40 +0200
      Bug#954823: hydrogen: Qt5 version available Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2020-06-15 20:50 +0200
        Bug#954823: hydrogen: Qt5 version available Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2020-07-05 18:40 +0200
          Bug#954823: hydrogen: Qt5 version available Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2020-07-05 21:50 +0200

#1012038 — Bug#954823: hydrogen: Qt5 version available

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Hi Jaromír,

On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 07:19:06AM +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:
>    Hi Alexandre,
>    I am former maintainer of this package but not active any more.
>    please contact Debian multimedia team to get help with this issue.
>    https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia
>    https://lists.debian.org/debian-multimedia/
>    Or even join it if you want to work on it.
>    https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/Join
>    hope this helps
>    mira

Given that you haven't been active in Debian for a while, and given
this message I understood that your intent was to drop yourself from
Uploaders, so I went ahead and committed that change.

Please let me know if I was mistaken, and I'll revert that commit asap :-)

Best,
Nicholas

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Hi Jonas,

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 03:57:44PM -0400, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:
> Hi Jaromír,
> 
> On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 07:19:06AM +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:
> >    Hi Alexandre,
> >    I am former maintainer of this package but not active any more.
> >    please contact Debian multimedia team to get help with this issue.
> >    https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia
> >    https://lists.debian.org/debian-multimedia/
> >    Or even join it if you want to work on it.
> >    https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/Join
> >    hope this helps
> >    mira
> 
> Given that you haven't been active in Debian for a while, and given
> this message I understood that your intent was to drop yourself from
> Uploaders, so I went ahead and committed that change.
> 
> Please let me know if I was mistaken, and I'll revert that commit asap :-)
> 

I've arrived at the stage of work where my options are to 1) convert
to dh 2) learn about cdbs (specifically why it is overriding
debhelper-compat 13 with compat 5).  I'd prefer to spend my time on
#1.

Do you object to the move to dh?  Also, would you like to remain an
Uploader or would you like me to remove your name from the list at
this time?

Thank you,
Nicholas

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[ re-posting, bugreport cc'ed this time ]

Quoting Nicholas D Steeves (2020-05-30 22:34:10)
> Hi Jonas,
> 
> On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 03:57:44PM -0400, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:
> > Hi Jaromír,
> > 
> > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 07:19:06AM +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:
> > >    Hi Alexandre,
> > >    I am former maintainer of this package but not active any more.
> > >    please contact Debian multimedia team to get help with this issue.
> > >    https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia
> > >    https://lists.debian.org/debian-multimedia/
> > >    Or even join it if you want to work on it.
> > >    https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/Join
> > >    hope this helps
> > >    mira
> > 
> > Given that you haven't been active in Debian for a while, and given
> > this message I understood that your intent was to drop yourself from
> > Uploaders, so I went ahead and committed that change.
> > 
> > Please let me know if I was mistaken, and I'll revert that commit asap :-)
> > 
> 
> I've arrived at the stage of work where my options are to 1) convert
> to dh 2) learn about cdbs (specifically why it is overriding
> debhelper-compat 13 with compat 5).  I'd prefer to spend my time on
> #1.
> 
> Do you object to the move to dh?  Also, would you like to remain an
> Uploader or would you like me to remove your name from the list at
> this time?

Please go ahead, and please remove me as uploader (not because of that 
change - I am changing away from cdbs myself as well nowadays - but 
because I no longer have a special interest in that package)


- Jonas

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Hi Jonas,

Thank you for replying, and so sorry for the long delay.

Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> writes:

> [ re-posting, bugreport cc'ed this time ]
>
> Quoting Nicholas D Steeves (2020-05-30 22:34:10)
>> On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 03:57:44PM -0400, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:
>> > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 07:19:06AM +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:
[snip]
>> Do you object to the move to dh?  Also, would you like to remain an
>> Uploader or would you like me to remove your name from the list at
>> this time?
>
> Please go ahead, and please remove me as uploader (not because of that 
> change - I am changing away from cdbs myself as well nowadays - but 
> because I no longer have a special interest in that package)
>

I was able to find some of the reasons for the previous packaging
decisions, such has how librubberband causes timing issues (in a drum
machine, this would be RC imho!); however, calling rubberband as an
application apparently does not produce this issue.  I think OSC support
would be really nice to have, but suspect it was disable because liblo
was buggy, and I stumbled upon what seems to be the fact that this is
still the case (https://github.com/hydrogen-music/hydrogen/issues/897).

Why weren't you building the shared lib before?  It looks like hydrogen
might have been statically linked?  That seems wrong to me, so I wonder
what the reason was ;-)

I'm guessing the files that would have gone into the -dev package were
deleted because long ago there was no need.  Do you know if they would
now be useful for something like plugins?

If you can share why these, and other decisions, were made I'd very much
appreciate it.  At this time core functionality, MIDI, and export of
some formats was confirmed to be good (#960539), but I'm trying to be
careful about disrupting more advanced functionality other users may
depend on.

Thanks!
Nicholas

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#1016664

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Quoting Nicholas D Steeves (2020-07-05 18:31:43)
> Hi Jonas,
> 
> Thank you for replying, and so sorry for the long delay.
> 
> Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> writes:
> 
> > [ re-posting, bugreport cc'ed this time ]
> >
> > Quoting Nicholas D Steeves (2020-05-30 22:34:10)
> >> On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 03:57:44PM -0400, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 07:19:06AM +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:
> [snip]
> >> Do you object to the move to dh?  Also, would you like to remain an
> >> Uploader or would you like me to remove your name from the list at
> >> this time?
> >
> > Please go ahead, and please remove me as uploader (not because of that 
> > change - I am changing away from cdbs myself as well nowadays - but 
> > because I no longer have a special interest in that package)
> >
> 
> I was able to find some of the reasons for the previous packaging
> decisions, such has how librubberband causes timing issues (in a drum
> machine, this would be RC imho!); however, calling rubberband as an
> application apparently does not produce this issue.  I think OSC support
> would be really nice to have, but suspect it was disable because liblo
> was buggy, and I stumbled upon what seems to be the fact that this is
> still the case (https://github.com/hydrogen-music/hydrogen/issues/897).
> 
> Why weren't you building the shared lib before?  It looks like hydrogen
> might have been statically linked?  That seems wrong to me, so I wonder
> what the reason was ;-)
> 
> I'm guessing the files that would have gone into the -dev package were
> deleted because long ago there was no need.  Do you know if they would
> now be useful for something like plugins?
> 
> If you can share why these, and other decisions, were made I'd very much
> appreciate it.  At this time core functionality, MIDI, and export of
> some formats was confirmed to be good (#960539), but I'm trying to be
> careful about disrupting more advanced functionality other users may
> depend on.

Please explore any comments in the packaging files, or git commits - in 
that order.  I very much doubt that I have any more information to share 
than is contained in either of those.  Feel free to ask if there is some 
comment or commit message that you do not understand.


 - Jonas

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