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Bug#1001335:

From Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@eds.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.bugs.dist
Subject Bug#1001335:
Date 2021-12-09 13:00 +0100
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Great to hear that pipelining is already in use!  I guess HTTPS plus pipelining 
could mean that file size is no longer reliably readable for the network 
observer.  I've never profiles TLS and pipelining to know if there are still 
visible signatures that would let the network observer find the borders of file 
downloads, so I can't personally say for sure that padding would not still be 
useful.

I agree that padding to something like 1MB would be required to strip out all 
size metadata.  A small amount of padding would obscure a lot of metadata since 
there are many packages that are close to the same size.  I've also been 
thinking about general fingerprintability, not just detecting whether a specific 
security update is being applied.  The general pattern of packages, could be 
enough to identify a lot of boxes.

I was thinking this was a low hanging fruit.  If it is not, and you don't want 
to track this, I'm fine with it being closed.

OpenSSL does Record Padding also:
https://www.openssl.org/docs/man1.1.1/man3/SSL_CONF_cmd.html

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Bug#1001335: apt should use TLSv1.3 Record Padding to obscure file size metadata Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@eds.org> - 2021-12-08 22:00 +0100
  Bug#1001335: apt should use TLSv1.3 Record Padding to obscure file size metadata Julian Andres Klode <jak@debian.org> - 2021-12-08 22:50 +0100
  Bug#1001335:  Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@eds.org> - 2021-12-09 13:00 +0100

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