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  Empire - Steven Saylor Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-08-22 18:43 +0100
    Re: Empire - Steven Saylor Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-08-22 18:53 -0400
      Re: Empire - Steven Saylor Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-08-23 18:57 +0100
        Re: Empire - Steven Saylor Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-08-23 18:39 -0400
          Re: Empire - Steven Saylor Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-08-24 14:14 +0100

#5788 — Empire - Steven Saylor

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Empire-Epic-Novel-Ancient-Rome/dp/1849019622

Have you read Suetonius' Twelve Caesars? Or Robert Graves' I Claudius? 
Or Mary Beard's SPQR? I have. The story is so well known, handled by so 
many that it's become almost hackneyed and trite.
But I recently stumbled across Steven Saylor's book, and I'm loving it. 
It's immensely long, written as a novel, but it covers the history of 
Rome from Augustus to the Antonines; and does so in a way that makes it 
more real and palpable than anything I've ever read previously.
And it's not just narrative and action; it's full of erudite discussion 
about the changing times and events.

Ed

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#5789

Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> writes:

> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Empire-Epic-Novel-Ancient-Rome/dp/1849019622

> Have you read Suetonius' Twelve Caesars? Or Robert Graves' I Claudius? 
> Or Mary Beard's SPQR? I have. The story is so well known, handled by so 
> many that it's become almost hackneyed and trite.

_SPQR_ is on my TBR shelf.  The others are long in the past.

> But I recently stumbled across Steven Saylor's book, and I'm loving it. 
> It's immensely long, written as a novel, but it covers the history of 
> Rome from Augustus to the Antonines; and does so in a way that makes it 
> more real and palpable than anything I've ever read previously.
> And it's not just narrative and action; it's full of erudite discussion 
> about the changing times and events.

You will probably enjoy the predecessor volume, entitled _Rome_, which does the
same ab urbe condita to the fall of the Republic.  _Empire_ is, needless to
say, also on the TBR shelf...

-- 
Rich Alderson					  news@alderson.users.panix.com
      Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
	  omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
									--Galen

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#5790

Rich Alderson wrote:
> Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> writes:
> 
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Empire-Epic-Novel-Ancient-Rome/dp/1849019622
> 
>> Have you read Suetonius' Twelve Caesars? Or Robert Graves' I Claudius?
>> Or Mary Beard's SPQR? I have. The story is so well known, handled by so
>> many that it's become almost hackneyed and trite.
> 
> _SPQR_ is on my TBR shelf.  The others are long in the past.
> 
>> But I recently stumbled across Steven Saylor's book, and I'm loving it.
>> It's immensely long, written as a novel, but it covers the history of
>> Rome from Augustus to the Antonines; and does so in a way that makes it
>> more real and palpable than anything I've ever read previously.
>> And it's not just narrative and action; it's full of erudite discussion
>> about the changing times and events.
> 
> You will probably enjoy the predecessor volume, entitled _Rome_, which does the
> same ab urbe condita to the fall of the Republic.  _Empire_ is, needless to
> say, also on the TBR shelf...
> 

Nice to hear from you, Rich. You founded this NG.
It used to be well populated until recently. Do you think there's any 
chance of rescuing it from its moribund state?

Ed

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#5791

Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> writes:

> Rich Alderson wrote:
>> Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> writes:

>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Empire-Epic-Novel-Ancient-Rome/dp/1849019622

>>> Have you read Suetonius' Twelve Caesars? Or Robert Graves' I Claudius?
>>> Or Mary Beard's SPQR? I have. The story is so well known, handled by so
>>> many that it's become almost hackneyed and trite.

>> _SPQR_ is on my TBR shelf.  The others are long in the past.

>>> But I recently stumbled across Steven Saylor's book, and I'm loving it.
>>> It's immensely long, written as a novel, but it covers the history of
>>> Rome from Augustus to the Antonines; and does so in a way that makes it
>>> more real and palpable than anything I've ever read previously.
>>> And it's not just narrative and action; it's full of erudite discussion
>>> about the changing times and events.

>> You will probably enjoy the predecessor volume, entitled _Rome_, which does
>> the same ab urbe condita to the fall of the Republic.  _Empire_ is, needless
>> to say, also on the TBR shelf...

> Nice to hear from you, Rich. You founded this NG.
> It used to be well populated until recently. Do you think there's any 
> chance of rescuing it from its moribund state?

Hi, Ed, it's nice to be remembered!

I doubt that any newsgroup can be rescued.  It appears that the only non-
robotic users of Usenet are a few diehards who inhabit their favorite old
haunts out of sheer cussedness.

But it's nice to see occasional non-spam posts.

-- 
Rich Alderson					  news@alderson.users.panix.com
      Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
	  omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
									--Galen

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#5792

Rich Alderson wrote:
> Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> writes:
> 
>> Rich Alderson wrote:
>>> Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> writes:
> 
>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Empire-Epic-Novel-Ancient-Rome/dp/1849019622
> 
>>>> Have you read Suetonius' Twelve Caesars? Or Robert Graves' I Claudius?
>>>> Or Mary Beard's SPQR? I have. The story is so well known, handled by so
>>>> many that it's become almost hackneyed and trite.
> 
>>> _SPQR_ is on my TBR shelf.  The others are long in the past.
> 
>>>> But I recently stumbled across Steven Saylor's book, and I'm loving it.
>>>> It's immensely long, written as a novel, but it covers the history of
>>>> Rome from Augustus to the Antonines; and does so in a way that makes it
>>>> more real and palpable than anything I've ever read previously.
>>>> And it's not just narrative and action; it's full of erudite discussion
>>>> about the changing times and events.
> 
>>> You will probably enjoy the predecessor volume, entitled _Rome_, which does
>>> the same ab urbe condita to the fall of the Republic.  _Empire_ is, needless
>>> to say, also on the TBR shelf...
> 
>> Nice to hear from you, Rich. You founded this NG.
>> It used to be well populated until recently. Do you think there's any
>> chance of rescuing it from its moribund state?
> 
> Hi, Ed, it's nice to be remembered!
> 
> I doubt that any newsgroup can be rescued.  It appears that the only non-
> robotic users of Usenet are a few diehards who inhabit their favorite old
> haunts out of sheer cussedness.
> 
> But it's nice to see occasional non-spam posts.
> 

I know one or two thriving groups in Usenet. And look at these statistics;
https://www.newsdemon.com/usenet-newsgroup-feed-size
It's growing!

In the case of your humanities.classics there's another factor at play; 
the decline of general study of classical cultures.
I know of few web forums such as https://www.textkit.com/latest
but I feel that we could revive your group by posting articles there and 
attracting people.

Ed

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