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  [Hackaday] Josef Prusa Warns Open Hardware 3D Printing is Dead yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2025-08-13 12:41 +0042
    Re: [Hackaday] Josef Prusa Warns Open Hardware 3D Printing is Dead Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-08-13 12:15 +0000
      Re: [Hackaday] Josef Prusa Warns Open Hardware 3D Printing is Dead yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2025-08-13 13:51 +0042
    Re: [Hackaday] Josef Prusa Warns Open Hardware 3D Printing is Dead Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-02-20 09:52 +0000
      Re: [Hackaday] Josef Prusa Warns Open Hardware 3D Printing is Dead vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) - 2026-02-22 19:01 +0100
        Re: [Hackaday] Josef Prusa Warns Open Hardware 3D Printing is Dead Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-02-23 07:55 +0000
          Re: [Hackaday] Josef Prusa Warns Open Hardware 3D Printing is Dead vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) - 2026-02-25 15:43 +0100
            Re: [Hackaday] Josef Prusa Warns Open Hardware 3D Printing is Dead snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-02-25 17:39 +0000

#35 — [Hackaday] Josef Prusa Warns Open Hardware 3D Printing is Dead

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Josef Prusa Warns Open Hardware 3D Printing is Dead
<https://hackaday.com/2025/08/13/josef-prusa-warns-open-hardware-3d-printing-is-dead/>


Maybe I'll start with 3D printing when that is viewed as playing with
retro stuff.   ;-P

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#36

On 2025-08-13, yeti wrote:
> Hackaday
> Josef Prusa Warns Open Hardware 3D Printing is Dead
><https://hackaday.com/2025/08/13/josef-prusa-warns-open-hardware-3d-printing-is-dead/>
>
>
> Maybe I'll start with 3D printing when that is viewed as playing with
> retro stuff.   ;-P

This is pretty much "home computing" all over again -- in the early days
it basically entirely home built (or well maybe a "kit" that needed a
decent bit of knowledge to get going).

Then came the explosion of vendors (Commodore, Apple, Sinclair, etc.),
that eventually coalesced into IBM Clones / Windows, with a small
hanging-on of custom builds (and Apple...).

Though, I somewhat think that 3d printing isn't going to quite coalesce
into "just buy our stuff", especially if it comes handcuffed to "...and
use our DRM-locked filament that costs twice as much".

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#37

Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:

> This is pretty much "home computing" all over again -- in the early
> days it basically entirely home built (or well maybe a "kit" that
> needed a decent bit of knowledge to get going).

"History does not repeat, but it does rhyme." -- Unknown.

"Solder glue" and jumper wires were my 1st "programming language".

Then the programmable calculators and low cost micro-processors started
to appear.  Some even had a name based on that.  Look up "SC/MP".  And
don't ask for the bucks per byte or Hertz!  It was insane!

But to this day, it has shaped my view of things: Simpler is better!

When 3D printing turns retro, I hope the recycling aspect will play a
huge role.

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#76

yeti wrote:

> Josef Prusa Warns Open Hardware 3D Printing is Dead
> <https://hackaday.com/2025/08/13/josef-prusa-warns-open-hardware-3d-printing-is-dead/>
Apparently California is proposing legislation that limits what can be 
printed, I suppose after that ghost-gun killing of the health insurance 
boss, something was likely to happen, in the USA at least.

<https://youtu.be/Nhz6vao13bs>

<https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB2047>

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#79

In article <10n9asm$9gu7$1@andyburns.eternal-september.org>, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

> yeti wrote:
> 
> > Josef Prusa Warns Open Hardware 3D Printing is Dead
> >
<https://hackaday.com/2025/08/13/josef-prusa-warns-open-hardware-3d-printing-is-dead/>
> Apparently California is proposing legislation that limits what can be 
> printed, I suppose after that ghost-gun killing of the health insurance 
> boss, something was likely to happen, in the USA at least.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/Nhz6vao13bs>
> 
>
<https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB2047>

I don't disagree with the broad sentiment of state intervention on what
can and can't be 3D printed, within reason. In the UK, certainly, there
are already severe sanctions in place for printing firearms - and very
rightfully so. There's always the risk of state over-reach with this type
of legislation, but if it is limited to genuinely harmful items, I'm fine
with it.

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#80

scole wrote:

> I don't disagree with the broad sentiment of state intervention on
> what can and can't be 3D printed, within reason. In the UK,
> certainly, there are already severe sanctions in place for printing
> firearms - and very rightfully so.

I'm no more likely to print a gun, than I am to buy one from a bloke 
down the pub.

> There's always the risk of state over-reach with this type of
> legislation, but if it is limited to genuinely harmful items, I'm
> fine with it.

If it ends up that open source printer firmware is banned, because only 
closed source firmware can decide what it will allow to be printed, then 
I'm not fine with it.

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#83

In article <10nh16b$2q3hc$1@andyburns.eternal-september.org>, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

> scole wrote:
> > There's always the risk of state over-reach with this type of
> > legislation, but if it is limited to genuinely harmful items, I'm
> > fine with it.
> 
> If it ends up that open source printer firmware is banned, because only 
> closed source firmware can decide what it will allow to be printed, then 
> I'm not fine with it.

Granted. But I'd be more hopeful it'd end up sensible. For example, it's
not illegal to own a crack pipe, and you could reasonably use it to smoke
legal materials, but it is illegal to smoke crack with your crack pipe.
Same logic applies - open source software is legal, with plenty of legal
uses, but there should be certain illegal uses that the plod come down
heavy on. And I highly suspect that there are already extensive systems in
place keeping an eye out for the uploading and downloading of 3d models of
guns.

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#84

scole <vintageapplemac@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <10nh16b$2q3hc$1@andyburns.eternal-september.org>, Andy Burns
> <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> 
> > scole wrote:
> > > There's always the risk of state over-reach with this type of
> > > legislation, but if it is limited to genuinely harmful items, I'm
> > > fine with it.
> > 
> > If it ends up that open source printer firmware is banned, because only
> > closed source firmware can decide what it will allow to be printed, then
> > I'm not fine with it.
> >
>
> Granted. But I'd be more hopeful it'd end up sensible. For example, it's
> not illegal to own a crack pipe, and you could reasonably use it to smoke
> legal materials, but it is illegal to smoke crack with your crack pipe.
> Same logic applies - open source software is legal, with plenty of legal
> uses, but there should be certain illegal uses that the plod come down
> heavy on. And I highly suspect that there are already extensive systems in
> place keeping an eye out for the uploading and downloading of 3d models of
> guns.
>

See "printer steganography" for 2D printing; perhaps there is something
equivalent in the 3D world.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots>

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