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Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider)

Started byMr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp>
First post2022-09-24 13:45 +0100
Last post2022-09-26 21:19 +0100
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  Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2022-09-24 13:45 +0100
    Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-09-24 08:29 -0500
      Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-09-24 09:39 -0400
      Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2022-09-24 18:02 +0100
        Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-09-24 12:18 -0500
          Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-09-24 13:33 -0400
        Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-09-24 12:46 -0500
          Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-09-24 13:49 -0400
            Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] olcott <none-ya@beez-waxes.com> - 2022-09-24 13:15 -0500
              Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-09-24 14:33 -0400
                Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-09-24 13:40 -0500
                  Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-09-24 15:02 -0400
                  Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-09-24 15:08 -0400
                    Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-09-24 15:04 -0500
                      Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-09-24 16:39 -0400
                        Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-09-24 16:31 -0500
                          Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-09-24 17:55 -0400
          Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2022-09-24 20:10 +0100
            Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-09-24 15:05 -0500
              Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2022-09-24 21:39 +0100
          Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--] Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2022-09-24 20:19 +0100
    Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-09-25 02:50 +0100
      Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreydanielrubard@gmail.com> - 2022-09-26 13:09 -0700
        Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-09-26 21:19 +0100

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#57892 — Re: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--]

FromMr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp>
Date2022-09-24 20:19 +0100
SubjectRe: Halting problem proofs refuted (Flibble Signaling Decider) [--Flibble violates my copyright--]
Message-ID<20220924201934.0000785d@reddwarf.jmc.corp>
In reply to#57884
On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 12:46:20 -0500
olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9/24/2022 12:02 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> > On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 08:29:47 -0500
> > olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> On 9/24/2022 7:45 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:  
> >>> Hi!
> >>>
> >>> (N.B. I will continue to boast about this important original
> >>> solution to the halting problem until all of you stop engaging
> >>> with Olcott and his non-solution to the halting problem.)  
> >> If my rebuttal to the halting problem proofs was incorrect then at
> >> least one person could correctly point out an error. So far no one
> >> has done that. Many people did point out their own false
> >> assumptions though.
> >>  
> >>> I have an idea for a signaling simulating halt decider that forks
> >>> the simulation into two branches if the input calls the halt
> >>> decider as per [Strachey 1965]'s "Impossible Program":
> >>>
> >>> void P(void (*x)())
> >>> {
> >>> 	if (H(x, x))
> >>> 		infinite_loop: goto infinite_loop;
> >>> 	return;
> >>> }  
> 
> 
> *Here is a copy of my function dating back before any of your
> versions*
> 
> On 4/15/2022 1:33 PM, olcott wrote:
>  > void P(u32 x)
>  > {
>  >    if (H(x, x)) //
>  >      HERE: goto HERE;
>  > }  
> 
> (a) Three of the names are identical.
> (b) The structure is identical.
> (c) You added the same "return" instruction that I added.
> (d) You converted the u32 x parameter to void function pointer as I
> have.

Interestingly as far as (d) is concerned I used a void function pointer
before you did so you copied me.  This can be proven based on
publication dates of articles in this newsgroup and the commit date of
my GitHub repo.

/Flibble 

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#57905

FromBen Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Date2022-09-25 02:50 +0100
Message-ID<877d1sw7cg.fsf@bsb.me.uk>
In reply to#57878
Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> writes:

> (N.B. I will continue to boast about this

That's refreshing.  Only three weeks ago you flatly denied you were
boasting!

-- 
Ben.

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#57922

FromJeffrey Rubard <jeffreydanielrubard@gmail.com>
Date2022-09-26 13:09 -0700
Message-ID<9185c4bb-e669-46b5-b237-edbb2e7917fan@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#57905
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 6:50:12 PM UTC-7, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Mr Flibble <fli...@reddwarf.jmc.corp> writes: 
> 
> > (N.B. I will continue to boast about this
> That's refreshing. Only three weeks ago you flatly denied you were 
> boasting! 
> 
> -- 
> Ben.

"Flibble"?
"It's like FUD."
"Oh."

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#57923

FromBen Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Date2022-09-26 21:19 +0100
Message-ID<87ill9vqh2.fsf@bsb.me.uk>
In reply to#57922
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreydanielrubard@gmail.com> writes:

> "Flibble"?
> "It's like FUD."
> "Oh."

Shhh!  They are talking to each other...

<tiptoes away...>

-- 
Ben.

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