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Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable ..

From Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.theory
Subject Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable ..
Date 2021-07-27 20:46 +0100
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olcott wrote:
> On 7/27/2021 2:02 PM, Peter wrote:
>> Mr Flibble wrote:
>>> .. due to the infinite recursion missed by Strachey blowing the stack of
>>> any turing machine simulator with finite memory (stack) size.  One
>>
>> Turing machines don't have stacks.  Stack machines have (of course) 
>> stacks of limitless length.
>>
> 
> Flibble's reasoning is correct, yet based on my 2016 reasoning.
> When the otherwise computationally equivalent TM counter-example cases 
> are translated into an architecture having finite resources running out 
> of stack memory would indicate infinite recursion.

The machines of interest can't run out of stack.  Some of them (TMs) 
don't have stacks to run out of, and others (e.g. stack machines) have 
limitless stacks.
> 
>>> simply needs to detect out of memory when more than one instance of the
>>> decider is present in the call stack.
>>>
>>> This is a troll.
>>>
>>> Message ends.
>>>
>>> /Flibble
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 


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The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2021-07-27 18:34 +0100
  Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-27 12:59 -0500
  Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2021-07-27 20:02 +0100
    Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-27 14:14 -0500
      Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-07-27 12:23 -0700
        Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-27 14:36 -0500
      Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2021-07-27 20:46 +0100
        Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-27 17:13 -0500
          Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2021-07-27 15:56 -0700
            Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-27 18:06 -0500
              Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2021-07-27 16:17 -0700
      Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2021-07-27 20:47 +0100
        Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-27 16:06 -0500
          Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2021-07-28 17:35 +0100
            Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-28 12:31 -0500
      Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2021-07-27 13:58 -0600
        Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-27 17:13 -0500
      Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2021-07-27 13:05 -0700
        Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-07-27 13:11 -0700
      Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2021-07-27 15:04 -0600
        Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-27 16:56 -0500
          Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2021-07-28 00:44 -0600
            Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-28 08:57 -0500
        Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2021-07-28 17:36 +0100
          Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-28 12:33 -0500
          Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2021-07-28 11:40 -0600
            Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-28 12:53 -0500
              Re: The contradiction that the HP is predicated on is detectable .. Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2021-07-28 11:25 -0700

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