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| Started by | Supratim Sanyal <supratim@riseup.invalid> |
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| First post | 2016-11-16 21:23 -0500 |
| Last post | 2016-11-23 18:08 +0000 |
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connecting a real spectrum to US power and TV Supratim Sanyal <supratim@riseup.invalid> - 2016-11-16 21:23 -0500
Re: connecting a real spectrum to US power and TV Volker Bartheld <news2016@bartheld.net> - 2016-11-17 09:47 +0100
Re: connecting a real spectrum to US power and TV "Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2016-11-23 18:10 +0000
Re: connecting a real spectrum to US power and TV Volker Bartheld <news2016@bartheld.net> - 2016-11-23 20:44 +0100
Re: connecting a real spectrum to US power and TV Daniele <me@unknown.com> - 2016-11-23 20:57 +0100
Re: connecting a real spectrum to US power and TV Guesser <alistair@zxnet.co.uk> - 2016-11-23 20:45 +0000
Re: connecting a real spectrum to US power and TV Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> - 2016-11-24 16:52 +0000
Re: connecting a real spectrum to US power and TV "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-28 01:25 +0000
Re: connecting a real spectrum to US power and TV hp <ferd@farkel.net> - 2016-12-31 12:52 -0500
Re: connecting a real spectrum to US power and TV Guesser <alistair@zxnet.co.uk> - 2016-11-17 10:52 +0000
Re: connecting a real spectrum to US power and TV Craig Maloney <craigmaloney@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 12:41 -0800
Re: connecting a real spectrum to US power and TV Supratim Sanyal <supratim@riseup.invalid> - 2016-11-18 18:09 -0500
Re: connecting a real spectrum to US power and TV "Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2016-11-23 18:08 +0000
| From | Supratim Sanyal <supratim@riseup.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-11-16 21:23 -0500 |
| Subject | connecting a real spectrum to US power and TV |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3296dea810ac09fb98968a@news.eternal-september.org> |
Hi, I have a real spectrum lying around for over 20 years here in the US - would like to see if it still works. I have bought a transformer to handle the voltage, but am still struggling to find an affordable solution for PAL to ATSC (US digital TV standard) conversion. Any ideas?
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| From | Volker Bartheld <news2016@bartheld.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-17 09:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <xrl7cn6jj8oc.dlg@news.bartheld.net> |
| In reply to | #4265 |
On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 21:23:28 -0500, Supratim Sanyal wrote: > I have a real spectrum lying around for over 20 years here in the US - > would like to see if it still works. I have bought a transformer to > handle the voltage, but am still struggling to find an affordable > solution for PAL to ATSC (US digital TV standard) conversion. Any ideas? Do the composite video mod [1] (no need to deactivate the modulator if you are OK with adding another Cinch socket) and get an el-cheapo LCD monitor off Ebay or Amazon such as [2]. Of course this display just has 3.5", but there are larger ones available as well. HTH & Greets, Volker [1] http://www.retrogamescollector.com/simple-zx-spectrum-composite-mod/ [2] https://www.amazon.de/TaoTronics-TT-CM01-Einparkhilfen/dp/B004VQD966 -- @: W E B 2 0 1 6 at B A R T H E L D dot N E T 3W: www.bartheld.net
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| From | "Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-11-23 18:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o14m19$ej9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4266 |
I thought it was ntsc, never twice the same colour as we used to say! What is the US composite, is it pal or ntsc? Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... briang1@blueyonder.co.uk Blind user, so no pictures please! "Volker Bartheld" <news2016@bartheld.net> wrote in message news:xrl7cn6jj8oc.dlg@news.bartheld.net... > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 21:23:28 -0500, Supratim Sanyal wrote: >> I have a real spectrum lying around for over 20 years here in the US - >> would like to see if it still works. I have bought a transformer to >> handle the voltage, but am still struggling to find an affordable >> solution for PAL to ATSC (US digital TV standard) conversion. Any ideas? > > Do the composite video mod [1] (no need to deactivate the modulator if you > are OK with adding another Cinch socket) and get an el-cheapo LCD monitor > off Ebay or Amazon such as [2]. Of course this display just has 3.5", but > there are larger ones available as well. > > HTH & Greets, > Volker > > [1] http://www.retrogamescollector.com/simple-zx-spectrum-composite-mod/ > [2] https://www.amazon.de/TaoTronics-TT-CM01-Einparkhilfen/dp/B004VQD966 > > -- > @: W E B 2 0 1 6 at B A R T H E L D dot N E T > 3W: www.bartheld.net
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| From | Volker Bartheld <news2016@bartheld.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-23 20:44 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <zgu3b6b9kmrs.dlg@news.bartheld.net> |
| In reply to | #4278 |
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 18:10:58 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote: > I thought it was ntsc, never twice the same colour as we used to say! > What is the US composite, is it pal or ntsc? It's NTSC. However almost any reasonably modern LCD TV (or monitor) can do both. Greets, Volker, used to know NTSC as "Never the same color" (and "Never Tested Since Christ"). P_ay the A_dditional L_uxury has its own shortcomings. Meanwhile the standards are dead anyhow, PAL just meaning "576 TV" lines now, or 576p as the HD-enthusiasts would say. -- @: W E B 2 0 1 6 at B A R T H E L D dot N E T 3W: www.bartheld.net
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| From | Daniele <me@unknown.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-23 20:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20161123205727.4d8be6c6049c0654061b0b14@unknown.com> |
| In reply to | #4280 |
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 20:44:27 +0100 Volker Bartheld <news2016@bartheld.net> wrote: > PAL just meaning "576 TV" lines now, or > 576p as the HD-enthusiasts would say. 576i actually -- Daniele
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| From | Guesser <alistair@zxnet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-11-23 20:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o14v33$hq5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4280 |
On 23/11/2016 19:44, Volker Bartheld wrote: > used to know NTSC as "Never the same color" (and "Never Tested Since > Christ"). P_ay the A_dditional L_uxury has its own shortcomings. Meanwhile > the standards are dead anyhow, PAL just meaning "576 TV" lines now, or > 576p as the HD-enthusiasts would say. > If you give up, they win. You must keep reaching through the internet and slapping people with a delay line when they say things like "PAL DVD"
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| From | Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-24 16:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20161124165251.44db3c9f@talktalk.net> |
| In reply to | #4282 |
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 20:45:34 +0000 Guesser <alistair@zxnet.co.uk> wrote: > If you give up, they win. You must keep reaching through the internet > and slapping people with a delay line when they say things like "PAL > DVD" To be fair to the non-pedants, it does actually *say* “PAL” on the box. For some reason. Blame the Interplanetary Lords of the Disc, or whoever it is decides these things. -- Duncan Snowden.
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| From | "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-28 01:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o1g12e$13h$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #4280 |
Volker Bartheld wrote: > PAL just meaning "576 TV" lines now, or > 576p as the HD-enthusiasts would say. 576i... -- Daniel Mandic
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| From | hp <ferd@farkel.net> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 12:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <o48r8i$1rei$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #4266 |
On 11/17/2016 3:47 AM, Volker Bartheld wrote: > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 21:23:28 -0500, Supratim Sanyal wrote: >> I have a real spectrum lying around for over 20 years here in the US - >> would like to see if it still works. I have bought a transformer to >> handle the voltage, but am still struggling to find an affordable >> solution for PAL to ATSC (US digital TV standard) conversion. Any ideas? > > Do the composite video mod [1] (no need to deactivate the modulator if you > are OK with adding another Cinch socket) and get an el-cheapo LCD monitor > off Ebay or Amazon such as [2]. Of course this display just has 3.5", but > there are larger ones available as well. > > HTH & Greets, > Volker > > [1] http://www.retrogamescollector.com/simple-zx-spectrum-composite-mod/ > [2] https://www.amazon.de/TaoTronics-TT-CM01-Einparkhilfen/dp/B004VQD966 > USA folks: was in several of the local 'GoodWill' stores in my area, LCD monitors --> $15usd, seems right affordable to experrymint with
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| From | Guesser <alistair@zxnet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-11-17 10:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o0k24u$hvb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4265 |
On 17/11/2016 02:23, Supratim Sanyal wrote: > Hi, > > I have a real spectrum lying around for over 20 years here in the US - > would like to see if it still works. I have bought a transformer to > handle the voltage, but am still struggling to find an affordable > solution for PAL to ATSC (US digital TV standard) conversion. Any ideas? > You won't find an affordable solution for PAL to ATSC I'm sure. Look for a PAL to HDMI interface if you're sure your TV can't deal with a 576i 50Hz PAL signal. In either case you'll need to do a composite mod first.
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| From | Craig Maloney <craigmaloney@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-17 12:41 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <2b35bc57-1713-43f6-9e08-bb3e832101ff@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #4265 |
On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 9:23:34 PM UTC-5, Supratim Sanyal wrote: > Hi, > > I have a real spectrum lying around for over 20 years here in the US - > would like to see if it still works. I have bought a transformer to > handle the voltage, but am still struggling to find an affordable > solution for PAL to ATSC (US digital TV standard) conversion. Any ideas? I did the composite mod (it's really simple) and am able to use the Spectrum machines with a LCD monitor without a problem. Also, I picked up a power supply on Amazon that can handle 9V with 1A and it works beautifully. The only caveat I can offer is pulling the machine apart can damage the keyboard membrane so you'll either want to have a new one standing by, or be VERY careful separating the two halves of the machine. Unfortunately that's easier said than done. Hope this helps, and hope you have great success running your speccy over here.
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| From | Supratim Sanyal <supratim@riseup.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-11-18 18:09 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.32995442e3210fdb989690@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #4265 |
In article <MPG.3296dea810ac09fb98968a@news.eternal-september.org>, supratim@riseup.invalid says... > > Hi, > > I have a real spectrum lying around for over 20 years here in the US - > would like to see if it still works. I have bought a transformer to > handle the voltage, but am still struggling to find an affordable > solution for PAL to ATSC (US digital TV standard) conversion. Any ideas? Thank you all. I now have things to look up and try!
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| From | "Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-11-23 18:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o14ltb$e0b$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4265 |
I'm sure there used to be an rgb interface for those old style monitors. Inside the Speccy there are colour difference signals though, and there were always tvs that could cope with the higher line speed and slower frame rate over there, I read about them but whether anyone still has a working one is anyones guess I did wonder if one of those monitor conversion boxes you can get for tvs these days might be able to help. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... briang1@blueyonder.co.uk Blind user, so no pictures please! "Supratim Sanyal" <supratim@riseup.invalid> wrote in message news:MPG.3296dea810ac09fb98968a@news.eternal-september.org... > Hi, > > I have a real spectrum lying around for over 20 years here in the US - > would like to see if it still works. I have bought a transformer to > handle the voltage, but am still struggling to find an affordable > solution for PAL to ATSC (US digital TV standard) conversion. Any ideas?
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