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  Re: Cambridge Z88 Forums launch and Keyboard Membranes spike1@freenet.co.uk - 2011-02-01 19:29 +0000
    Re: Cambridge Z88 Forums launch and Keyboard Membranes Guesser <alistair@alistairsserver.no-ip.org> - 2011-02-03 14:49 +0000
      Re: Cambridge Z88 Forums launch and Keyboard Membranes greenaum@yahoo.co.uk (greenaum) - 2011-02-04 16:47 +0000
      Re: Cambridge Z88 Forums launch and Keyboard Membranes "Paul E Collins" <find_my_real_address@CL4.org> - 2011-02-04 00:08 +0000
      Re: Cambridge Z88 Forums launch and Keyboard Membranes Matt Rudge <mrudge@googleswebmailservice.com> - 2011-02-03 23:22 +0000
    Re: Cambridge Z88 Forums launch and Keyboard Membranes rwap <rich@rwapservices.co.uk> - 2011-02-03 01:31 -0800
      Re: Cambridge Z88 Forums launch and Keyboard Membranes spike1@freenet.co.uk - 2011-02-03 18:13 +0000
    Re: Cambridge Z88 Forums launch and Keyboard Membranes "Chris Cowley" <chrrris@gmail.com> - 2011-02-02 23:04 +0000

#2498 — Re: Cambridge Z88 Forums launch and Keyboard Membranes

And verily, didst greenaum <greenaum@yahoo.co.uk> hastily babble thusly:
> On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:53:01 -0800 (PST), rwap
> <rich@rwapservices.co.uk> sprachen:
> 
>>http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/Z88/forums
> 
> Much as I love the '88, and quite fancy getting another one, it would
> be nice instead to direct people here. Web "forums" are sort of the
> enemies of Usenet, as well as having none of the advantages of a
> system invented especially for conversation; and the disadvantage of
> being moderated, often by volunteers with a controlling streak and
> remarkable lack of emotional maturity.
> 
> What's wrong with anarchy anyway? Got us by well in the good ol' days.
> On Usenet.

Bravo, couldn't agree more.
WOS forums has really hurt CSS.

Your sig seperator is broken btw. should be "-- "
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#2499

On 03/02/2011 09:31, rwap wrote:
> I enjoy CSS as much as using forums and email lists - but the main
> issue I find with CSS is the constant barrage of spam which it
> attracts

what spam... :)

not seen any spam get through on c.s.s on eternal-september for a long 
time. Google's gateway is just rubbish.

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#2510

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:49:00 +0000, Guesser
<alistair@alistairsserver.no-ip.org> sprachen:

>what spam... :)
>
>not seen any spam get through on c.s.s on eternal-september for a long 
>time. 

S'true. Nobody even bothers spamming us anymore. It's well under
control.

What's a much bigger pain in the arse, is the pathetic inadequates one
tends to find in charge of things on the Internet. Most people wanting
to "moderate" a chat-thing or IRC channels are whiny douchebags with
no sense of humour. Anything they don't understand or agree with, is
gone. It stilts conversation, and I can only imagine people eventually
leave from boredom, or enjoy having the same conversations over and
again.

Altho notably said mod's loneliness, depression, and not having a
girlfriend even tho he's such a nice guy, always seem to be on topic
for him and his friends.

Soz, this is one of my bigger shoulder chips. Make me look like a
fucking American Football player, or Joan Collins.


>Google's gateway is just rubbish.

Yup. Who'd read Usenet thru the web? I've used Google's, it's awful
and impossible to use for any stretch of time. I can read hundreds of
posts in an hour with a proper newsreader. I hope they're all going
somewhere good in my brain.

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#2535

"Matt Rudge" <mrudge@googleswebmailservice.com> wrote:

> Have to agree. I use aioe.org, which is a free news server, and I haven't
> seen any spam on c.s.s. in donkeys[1]

I'm with BT, who probably only still support Usenet because nobody has 
noticed they still have a server doing it, and I haven't seen any 
significant amount of spam on c.s.s for ages either. Are all the providers 
good at filtering it, or is there just a bunch of extra crap if you're 
viewing through Google Groups?

Eq.
 

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#2539

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:49:00 +0000, Guesser wibbled:

> On 03/02/2011 09:31, rwap wrote:
>> I enjoy CSS as much as using forums and email lists - but the main
>> issue I find with CSS is the constant barrage of spam which it attracts
> 
> what spam... :)
> 
> not seen any spam get through on c.s.s on eternal-september for a long
> time. Google's gateway is just rubbish.

Have to agree. I use aioe.org, which is a free news server, and I haven't 
seen any spam on c.s.s. in donkeys[1]

[1] Inside a donkey is, indeed, an unusual place to find spam, but the 
stuff does seem to get everywhere. I blame unusual high altitude winds, 
rapid can openers, and the UEA.

-- 
Matt
http://www.mattrudge.netfor wibble and guff
http://blog.mattrudge.net for Linuxy goodness

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#2501

It is each to their own I guess - both the Sinclair QL and Cambridge
Z88 seem to have relied heavily on email lists up to now, which can be
a real pain to find information about a previous topic, or to follow
threads unless you keep all your emails.

I enjoy CSS as much as using forums and email lists - but the main
issue I find with CSS is the constant barrage of spam which it
attracts - yes, you can report it as spam, but by the time google gets
around to deleting it,  other topics have moved it off the front page
anyway.

Some of the usenet groups on here are completely unusable due to the
real posts being hidden by 100s of spam messages, so that is why I
don't tend to use this as much as forums.

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#2527

And verily, didst rwap <rich@rwapservices.co.uk> hastily babble thusly:
> It is each to their own I guess - both the Sinclair QL and Cambridge
> Z88 seem to have relied heavily on email lists up to now, which can be
> a real pain to find information about a previous topic, or to follow
> threads unless you keep all your emails.
> 
> I enjoy CSS as much as using forums and email lists - but the main
> issue I find with CSS is the constant barrage of spam which it
> attracts - yes, you can report it as spam, but by the time google gets
> around to deleting it,  other topics have moved it off the front page
> anyway.

I see no spam...
But then, individial.net have very good spam filtration in operation.
None of the newsgroups I subscribe to are flooded with spam on
individual.net. Well worth 10 euros a year.

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#2518

spike1@freenet.co.uk wrote:

> And verily, didst greenaum <greenaum@yahoo.co.uk> hastily babble
> thusly:
>
> > Much as I love the '88, and quite fancy getting another one, it
> > would be nice instead to direct people here. Web "forums" are sort
> > of the enemies of Usenet, as well as having none of the advantages
> > of a system invented especially for conversation; and the
> > disadvantage of being moderated, often by volunteers with a
> > controlling streak and remarkable lack of emotional maturity.
> > 
> > What's wrong with anarchy anyway? Got us by well in the good ol'
> > days.  On Usenet.
> 
> Bravo, couldn't agree more.

Usenet is pretty much dead and buried though, isn't it?[*] CSS is no
different to most groups -- it's all tumbleweed and cobwebs for the
most part.

> WOS forums has really hurt CSS.

I'm not sure you can blame WoS for that. Most of the posters there (and
on most forums I've been on) simply haven't a clue what usenet is or
how to access it (especially as most ISPs no longer operate their own
news servers). You have to refer to it as "Google Groups" to get even
the faintest glimmer of recognition.

Don't get me wrong, I much prefer usenet myself and always have. But
the current choice for most topics is: Usenet group with about 4
posters, or a web forum with 400 (admittedly 320 of which will be
posting nonsense, or just bickering amongst themselves, but that still
leaves more signal that your average usenet group these days!).

[*] Yeah, I know... "Film at 11". It is though. :p
-- 
Chris

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