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| First post | 2016-02-16 02:55 -0800 |
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ZX Spectrum Vega+ janvisser@bananensap.nl - 2016-02-16 02:55 -0800
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2016-02-16 11:09 +0000
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ Jan Visser <starquake@linuxeverywhere.org> - 2016-02-16 03:29 -0800
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2016-02-16 12:34 +0000
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2016-02-16 15:05 +0000
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ "M.O.B. i L." <mobil@orbin.se> - 2016-02-17 12:15 +0100
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ "Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2016-02-17 11:28 +0000
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk - 2016-02-19 18:08 -0800
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ Sublimosis <arse@nospam.com> - 2016-02-19 01:18 -0600
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk - 2016-02-19 18:11 -0800
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk - 2016-02-19 18:14 -0800
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ Shaun Bebbington <commodorecomputerclub@googlemail.com> - 2018-02-05 12:07 -0800
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ Guesser <alistair@zxnet.co.uk> - 2018-02-05 20:09 +0000
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ Shaun Bebbington <commodorecomputerclub@googlemail.com> - 2018-02-05 12:29 -0800
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ Guesser <alistair@zxnet.co.uk> - 2018-02-05 21:23 +0000
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2018-02-06 01:51 +0000
Re: ZX Spectrum Vega+ Shaun Bebbington <shaun@square-circle.co.uk> - 2018-02-07 03:55 -0800
| From | janvisser@bananensap.nl |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 02:55 -0800 |
| Subject | ZX Spectrum Vega+ |
| Message-ID | <925caddc-2152-4dc9-8655-dc573482d769@googlegroups.com> |
Have you guys seen this? http://igg.me/at/vegaplus/x/9304996 Sounds so cool! What do you think?
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| From | Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 11:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnc610p.3ck.maxupixu@pisces.my-domain> |
| In reply to | #4082 |
2016-02-16, janvisser@bananensap.nl wrote: > Have you guys seen this? > > http://igg.me/at/vegaplus/x/9304996 > > Sounds so cool! > > What do you think? Looks definitely interesting. Although, WRT playing text adventures, I'm going to wait and see whether their reply below changes into something more concrete :) From the FAQ: "Q - Can I connect a keyboard? A - We're reviewing our expansion options." -- :q!
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| From | Jan Visser <starquake@linuxeverywhere.org> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 03:29 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <a3fc7357-7f2f-4653-a415-4a95350f00f7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #4083 |
On Tuesday, 16 February 2016 12:12:25 UTC+1, Kara M'bola wrote: > 2016-02-16, janvisser wrote: > > Have you guys seen this? > > > > http://igg.me/at/vegaplus/x/9304996 > > > > Sounds so cool! > > > > What do you think? > > Looks definitely interesting. Although, WRT playing text adventures, I'm > going to wait and see whether their reply below changes into something > more concrete :) > > From the FAQ: > > "Q - Can I connect a keyboard? > > A - We're reviewing our expansion options." > > -- > :q! Unfortunately they also said that about the ZX Spectrum Vega, and AFAIK you can't connect a keyboard to that either.
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| From | Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 12:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n9v501$1seu$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #4084 |
On 16/02/2016 11:29, Jan Visser wrote: > Unfortunately they also said that about the ZX Spectrum Vega, and > AFAIK you can't connect a keyboard to that either. And it would probably have made more sense on the original Vega, because you had to plug that into an external display anyway. The big selling point of the Plus is that it's a handheld with a small built-in screen, and I can't really imagine many people wanting to play text adventures on it. Far better just to run an emulator on your laptop.
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| From | Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 15:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnc6es0.3ck.maxupixu@pisces.my-domain> |
| In reply to | #4086 |
2016-02-16, Calum wrote: > On 16/02/2016 11:29, Jan Visser wrote: >> Unfortunately they also said that about the ZX Spectrum Vega, and >> AFAIK you can't connect a keyboard to that either. > > And it would probably have made more sense on the original Vega, because > you had to plug that into an external display anyway. True. Hence I don't have too high hopes on the matter. > The big selling point of the Plus is that it's a handheld with a small > built-in screen, and I can't really imagine many people wanting to play > text adventures on it. Far better just to run an emulator on your laptop. Yeah, that's my preferred method too. Still, the feature would probably make Vega+ a deal maker for me. -- :q!
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| From | "M.O.B. i L." <mobil@orbin.se> |
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| Date | 2016-02-17 12:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <na1kiv$f5e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4087 |
Den 2016-02-16 kl. 16:05, skrev Kara M'bola: > 2016-02-16, Calum wrote: >> On 16/02/2016 11:29, Jan Visser wrote: >>> Unfortunately they also said that about the ZX Spectrum Vega, and >>> AFAIK you can't connect a keyboard to that either. >> >> And it would probably have made more sense on the original Vega, because >> you had to plug that into an external display anyway. > > True. Hence I don't have too high hopes on the matter. > >> The big selling point of the Plus is that it's a handheld with a small >> built-in screen, and I can't really imagine many people wanting to play >> text adventures on it. Far better just to run an emulator on your laptop. > > Yeah, that's my preferred method too. Still, the feature would probably > make Vega+ a deal maker for me. I too would like to be able to connect a keyboard. Maybe the microUSB-port could have USB OTG or the Vega+ could have Bluetooth compatible with http://sinclair.recreatedzxspectrum.com/. I don't think this will happen because enough people are buying it anyway.
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| From | "Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-02-17 11:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <na1lbq$hob$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4084 |
One wonders if its a hardware issue, ie, they don't want to put a socket on, or if its going to need a software rewrite. i don't know enough about it to know if basic is there or not, if not then what is the point. I'd have to say that some games do use basic routines so I'd have to assume those might be there as they were in the old Sam emulation that did not actually have a basic. Brian "Jan Visser" <starquake@linuxeverywhere.org> wrote in message news:a3fc7357-7f2f-4653-a415-4a95350f00f7@googlegroups.com... > On Tuesday, 16 February 2016 12:12:25 UTC+1, Kara M'bola wrote: >> 2016-02-16, janvisser wrote: >> > Have you guys seen this? >> > >> > http://igg.me/at/vegaplus/x/9304996 >> > >> > Sounds so cool! >> > >> > What do you think? >> >> Looks definitely interesting. Although, WRT playing text adventures, I'm >> going to wait and see whether their reply below changes into something >> more concrete :) >> >> From the FAQ: >> >> "Q - Can I connect a keyboard? >> >> A - We're reviewing our expansion options." >> >> -- >> :q! > > Unfortunately they also said that about the ZX Spectrum Vega, and AFAIK > you can't connect a keyboard to that either. -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... briang1@blueyonder.co.uk Blind user, so no pictures please!
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| From | aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 18:08 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <38684a63-4745-4fd1-b5d8-94fa25b64883@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #4089 |
On Wednesday, 17 February 2016 11:28:43 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote: > One wonders if its a hardware issue, ie, they don't want to put a socket on, > or if its going to need a software rewrite. It's an emulator running directly on an ARM SoC so it would need a firmware update to support an external keyboard. > i don't know enough about it to know if basic is there or not It's there, although there's no menu entry for it. Retro Computers licensed the ROMs from BSkyB along with the Sinclair, ZX, and Spectrum trademarks.
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| From | Sublimosis <arse@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 01:18 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <aYidnb_CmsYkXFvLnZ2dnUU78budnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #4082 |
janvisser@bananensap.nl wrote in news:925caddc-2152-4dc9-8655- dc573482d769@googlegroups.com: > Have you guys seen this? > > http://igg.me/at/vegaplus/x/9304996 > > Sounds so cool! > > What do you think? I saw this article the other day, and I have to say it's very exciting. I currently use a Nintendo DS with zxds as the emulator, and that works really well. With the dual screen there is a keyboard map that when used with the stick makes text adventures, hell even Elite (with a custom keyboard), very playable. I held off whith getting a Vega as the majority of the pre-installed games looked crap. Adding your own games work OK? I never really heard feedback about that? And the connectivity to a large display seemed to be hardwired only which looked shit also. This device will be more geared to the arcade action titles IMO, and I will get one for that reason alone. I just hope you can declutter the device with all of the shit titles and install your own, so I can recreate my old games library that I had back in the day! Sub
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| From | aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 18:11 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b77670fa-8f43-4404-9bd5-d37cb6274261@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #4092 |
On Friday, 19 February 2016 07:18:19 UTC, Sublimosis wrote: > I saw this article the other day, and I have to say it's very exciting. I > currently use a Nintendo DS with zxds as the emulator, and that works > really well. With the dual screen there is a keyboard map that when used > with the stick makes text adventures, hell even Elite (with a custom > keyboard), very playable. Vega+ isn't really going to give you anything over ZXDS, except an actual border. > I held off whith getting a Vega as the majority of the pre-installed games > looked crap. Adding your own games work OK? Adding your own games is pretty simple. Just copy to an SD card and (optionally) create a keymap file for the game. > I just hope you can declutter the device If you put an SD card in those titles are shown separately so you can ignore the internal ones. You can also create save games of the internal ones to the SD card, effectively creating a favorites list.
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| From | aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 18:14 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <125df36e-6ce2-4193-86e0-0b5a14333bfe@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #4082 |
On the subject of adventure games. You can manage without an external keyboard. Just save the following text as a .ZXK keymap file and edit the relevant bits. ---start--- # Generic ZX Spectrum Vega key map file for text adventures. # Change this to the title of your adventure: T:Adventure # Change this to the name of your filename: F:ADVENT.Z80 # Change this to M:128 for 128K games: M:48 H:The virtual keyboard provides alphanumeric keys, abbreviations and common words. K:; D:; #compass/alphanumeric S:KEY;DIR=N,N;E,E;W,W;S,S/A-D=A,A;B,B;C,C;D,D/E-H=E,E;F,F;G,G;H,H/I-L=I,I;J,J;K,K;L,L/M-P=M,M;N,N;O,O;P,P/Q-T=Q,Q;R,R;S,S;T,T/U-X=U,U;V,V;W,W;X,X/Y-1=Y,Y;Z,Z;0,0;1,1/2-5=2,2;3,3;4,4;5,5/6-9=6,6;7,7;8,8;9,9 #space,[G]et,[I]nventory,[L]ook/ask-empty S:ASK;SPA=Space,SP;G,G;I,I;L,L/ASK=A,A;S,S;K,K;Y,Y/BRE=B,B;R,R;E,E;A,A/CLI=C,C;L,L;I,I;M,M/CLO=C,C;L,L;O,O;S,S/CRO=C,C;R,R;O,O;S,S/DIG=D,D;I,I;G,G;O,O/DRI=D,D;R,R;I,I;N,N/DRO=D,D;R,R;O,O;P,P/EMP=E,E;M,M;P,P;T,T #enter-pick S:ENT;ENT=E,E;N,N;T,T;R,R/EXA=E,E;X,X;A,A;M,M/FIL=F,F;I,I;L,L;E,E/FOL=F,F;O,O;L,L;W,W/GIV=G,G;I,I;V,V;E,E/INT=I,I;N,N;T,T;O,O/LOC=L,L;O,O;C,C;K,K/OPE=O,O;P,P;E,E;N,N/OUT=O,O;U,U;T,T;F,F/PIC=P,P;I,I;C,C;K,K #put-with S:PUT;PUT=P,P;U,U;T,T;I,I/REA=R,R;E,E;A,A;D,D/SHO=S,S;H,H;O,O;T,T/TAK=T,T;A,A;K,K;E,E/THR=T,T;H,H;R,R;O,O/TIM=T,T;I,I;M,M;E,E/TUR=T,T;U,U;R,R;N,N/UND=U,U;N,N;D,D;O,O/WEA=W,W;E,E;A,A;R,R/WIT=W,W;I,I;T,T;H,H ---end---
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| From | Shaun Bebbington <commodorecomputerclub@googlemail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-02-05 12:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <4da39478-1b02-4401-9ad3-3be91395637d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #4082 |
On Tuesday, 16 February 2016 10:55:16 UTC, Jan Visser wrote: > Have you guys seen this? > > http://igg.me/at/vegaplus/x/9304996 > > Sounds so cool! > > What do you think? It will be shipped in April 2018. Apparently. W00t!
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| From | Guesser <alistair@zxnet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-02-05 20:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p5admj$gfu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4497 |
On 05/02/2018 20:07, Shaun Bebbington wrote: > It will be shipped in April 2018. Apparently. W00t! > Yeah, I'm sure it will, on the 1st :)
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| From | Shaun Bebbington <commodorecomputerclub@googlemail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-02-05 12:29 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <33f492fb-b2bf-4818-9558-ca14254b27a1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #4498 |
On Monday, 5 February 2018 20:09:56 UTC, Guesser wrote: > On 05/02/2018 20:07, Shaun Bebbington wrote: > > It will be shipped in April 2018. Apparently. W00t! > > > > Yeah, I'm sure it will, on the 1st :) Worst April Fools ever???
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| From | Guesser <alistair@zxnet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-02-05 21:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p5ai0a$j54$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4500 |
On 05/02/2018 20:29, Shaun Bebbington wrote: > On Monday, 5 February 2018 20:09:56 UTC, Guesser wrote: >> On 05/02/2018 20:07, Shaun Bebbington wrote: >>> It will be shipped in April 2018. Apparently. W00t! >>> >> >> Yeah, I'm sure it will, on the 1st :) > > Worst April Fools ever??? > We are talking jape of the decade. We are talking April, May, June, July, and August fool.
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| From | Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> |
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| Date | 2018-02-06 01:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oS7eC.626482$9X.39944@fx09.am4> |
| In reply to | #4502 |
On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 21:23:22 +0000, Guesser wrote: > On 05/02/2018 20:29, Shaun Bebbington wrote: >> On Monday, 5 February 2018 20:09:56 UTC, Guesser wrote: >>> On 05/02/2018 20:07, Shaun Bebbington wrote: >>>> It will be shipped in April 2018. Apparently. W00t! >>>> >>>> >>> Yeah, I'm sure it will, on the 1st :) >> >> Worst April Fools ever??? >> >> > We are talking jape of the decade. > We are talking April, May, June, July, and August fool. Red Dwarf fan... -- Johnny B Good
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| From | Shaun Bebbington <shaun@square-circle.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-02-07 03:55 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f93840af-c2ee-4a4b-ba5f-8dbdc5f5ab54@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #4503 |
On Tuesday, 6 February 2018 01:51:17 UTC, Johnny B Good wrote: > On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 21:23:22 +0000, Guesser wrote: > > > On 05/02/2018 20:29, Shaun Bebbington wrote: > >> On Monday, 5 February 2018 20:09:56 UTC, Guesser wrote: > >>> On 05/02/2018 20:07, Shaun Bebbington wrote: > >>>> It will be shipped in April 2018. Apparently. W00t! > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Yeah, I'm sure it will, on the 1st :) > >> > >> Worst April Fools ever??? > >> > >> > > We are talking jape of the decade. > > We are talking April, May, June, July, and August fool. > > Red Dwarf fan... > > -- > Johnny B Good :-)
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