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| Started by | Alex <alexhopson@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-09-04 14:48 -0700 |
| Last post | 2016-09-09 07:35 +0100 |
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Replacement transistors for Spectrum +2 (grey) Alex <alexhopson@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 14:48 -0700
Re: Replacement transistors for Spectrum +2 (grey) AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> - 2016-09-05 07:44 +0100
Re: Replacement transistors for Spectrum +2 (grey) Alex <alexhopson@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 11:01 -0700
Re: Replacement transistors for Spectrum +2 (grey) AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> - 2016-09-06 07:15 +0100
Re: Replacement transistors for Spectrum +2 (grey) Volker Bartheld <news2016@bartheld.net> - 2016-09-06 08:47 +0200
Re: Replacement transistors for Spectrum +2 (grey) "Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2016-09-09 07:35 +0100
| From | Alex <alexhopson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-04 14:48 -0700 |
| Subject | Replacement transistors for Spectrum +2 (grey) |
| Message-ID | <99550f6c-a9b1-42e3-a571-9c731c28dd95@googlegroups.com> |
Hi, I'm trying to fix a Spectrum +2, I suspect the transistors may be at fault and am looking to order some replacements. It seems the original transistors aren't used any more so I'm trying to figure out what the modern equivalents are there's guides for 48ks but not +2s, this is what I have so far: TR1,3,6 BC239B/C549B - can't figure out equivalent TR2 BC308B/C558B - can't figure out equivalent TR4,5,7 2N3904 - 2N3904 - same TR9 ZTX650 - ZTX651 TR8 ZTX213 - BC557 I'd be grateful if someone could fill the blanks and confirm my suggestions are suitable replacements. Thanks Alex
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| From | AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-05 07:44 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <Kv8zz.1231460$AB.454115@fx41.am4> |
| In reply to | #4238 |
On 04/09/2016 22:48, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to fix a Spectrum +2, I suspect the transistors may be at fault and am looking to order some replacements. It seems the original transistors aren't used any more so I'm trying to figure out what the modern equivalents are there's guides for 48ks but not +2s, this is what I have so far: > > TR1,3,6 BC239B/C549B - can't figure out equivalent > TR2 BC308B/C558B - can't figure out equivalent You can still buy BC239B <http://www.cricklewoodelectronics.com/BC239B.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwjK--BRCzv-Wyu4OTosEBEiQAgFp5OMdxHBFKt6nS8HWEpSEljI3gzLOIWMsm6VNvSL6PbYYaAsdt8P8HAQ> And BC308B in ebay. Andy
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| From | Alex <alexhopson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-05 11:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0b4582b1-b77e-4b28-8875-a0f9bbf03d48@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #4239 |
Even easier, thanks I was looking on cpc. Were the other replacements suitable?
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| From | AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-06 07:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <patzz.619151$Yo3.119402@fx27.fr7> |
| In reply to | #4240 |
On 05/09/2016 19:01, Alex wrote: > Even easier, thanks I was looking on cpc. Were the other replacements suitable? Have you looked on Ebay for the originals? all the transistors are on sale there. The other thing to look at is to test the transistors; many inexpensive multimeters have a transistor tester as standard. What makes you think that it is the transistors to blame? Generally on older technology the electrolytic capacitors drift with age, that would be one of my first things to look at. Andy
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| From | Volker Bartheld <news2016@bartheld.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-06 08:47 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pq2rw5w1eieu.dlg@news.bartheld.net> |
| In reply to | #4238 |
Hi! On Sun, 4 Sep 2016 14:48:15 -0700 (PDT), Alex wrote: > TR1,3,6 BC239B/C549B - can't figure out equivalent https://www.buerklin.com/en/transistor/p/11s7000 > TR2 BC308B/C558B - can't figure out equivalent https://www.buerklin.com/en/transistor/p/11s9750 > TR4,5,7 2N3904 - 2N3904 - same https://www.buerklin.com/en/transistor/p/27s5200 > TR9 ZTX650 - ZTX651 http://de.farnell.com/diodes-inc/ztx651/transistor-npn-60v-2a-e-line/dp/9525572 > TR8 ZTX213 - BC557 http://de.farnell.com/diodes-inc/ztx751/transistor-bipolar-pnp-60v-2a/dp/9525629 At least that is what I get out of http://www.8bit-wiki.de/index.php?id=3&filt=Sinclair/ZX_Spectrum/_zx48/manual/&cid=13597&mode=dl&tx=bd69aaf0000 and by comparing a few key features of those semiconductors. HTH & Greets, Volker -- @: W E B 2 0 1 6 at B A R T H E L D dot N E T 3W: www.bartheld.net
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| From | "Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-09-09 07:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nqtl72$4hs$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4238 |
In many cases, just first figure out whether they are pnp or npn and look at the disipation. In many cases general purpose transistors used to work well enough in many places, as I recall. Obviously its been a long time and memories fad, but are you absolutely sure transistors have failed, and exactly why they failed if they indeed have. I know transistors are cheap but you really don't want to be fiddling about unless you are pretty sure the fault that caused them to fail is no longer present. Dodgy capacitors, etc. It is also a good idea to make sure the psu is the right one and not faulty. The plus 2 had a voltage regulator inside in a socket very prone to dodgy connections. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... briang1@blueyonder.co.uk Blind user, so no pictures please! "Alex" <alexhopson@gmail.com> wrote in message news:99550f6c-a9b1-42e3-a571-9c731c28dd95@googlegroups.com... Hi, I'm trying to fix a Spectrum +2, I suspect the transistors may be at fault and am looking to order some replacements. It seems the original transistors aren't used any more so I'm trying to figure out what the modern equivalents are there's guides for 48ks but not +2s, this is what I have so far: TR1,3,6 BC239B/C549B - can't figure out equivalent TR2 BC308B/C558B - can't figure out equivalent TR4,5,7 2N3904 - 2N3904 - same TR9 ZTX650 - ZTX651 TR8 ZTX213 - BC557 I'd be grateful if someone could fill the blanks and confirm my suggestions are suitable replacements. Thanks Alex
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