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| Started by | Geoff <gwearmouth@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2013-04-09 03:17 -0700 |
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Ten Sexiest Computers of all time - Vulture Central Geoff <gwearmouth@gmail.com> - 2013-04-09 03:17 -0700
Re: Ten Sexiest Computers of all time - Vulture Central "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> - 2013-04-09 18:53 +0100
Re: Ten Sexiest Computers of all time - Vulture Central Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> - 2013-04-09 20:11 +0100
Re: Ten Sexiest Computers of all time - Vulture Central "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> - 2013-04-09 21:05 +0100
Re: Ten Sexiest Computers of all time - Vulture Central deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-04-10 08:49 +0100
Re: Ten Sexiest Computers of all time - Vulture Central "Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-04-10 08:55 +0100
Re: Ten Sexiest Computers of all time - Vulture Central colboy <colboy@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 06:31 -0700
Re: Ten Sexiest Computers of all time - Vulture Central "Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-04-14 08:02 +0100
Re: Ten Sexiest Computers of all time - Vulture Central Volker Bartheld <dr_versaeg@freenet.de> - 2013-04-14 09:22 +0200
Re: Ten Sexiest Computers of all time - Vulture Central "Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-04-14 15:37 +0100
Re: Ten Sexiest Computers of all time - Vulture Central andy.z.key@googlemail.com - 2013-05-30 14:13 -0700
| From | Geoff <gwearmouth@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-04-09 03:17 -0700 |
| Subject | Ten Sexiest Computers of all time - Vulture Central |
| Message-ID | <69d88fa1-5d48-472b-a98f-5d290bbe4a9e@googlegroups.com> |
Wait for it... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/09/feature_ten_sexy_computers_roundup/ -- G.
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| From | "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> |
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| Date | 2013-04-09 18:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5164639B.MD-1.4.17.chris.young@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2205 |
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 03:17:10 -0700 (PDT) da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair were rappin' to MC Geoff: > Wait for it... > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/09/feature_ten_sexy_computers_roundup/ Look at number 4... or should I say, number PHWOARR? Don't fancy number 3 much, the A600 would have been a better choice (or the CDTV, now that *is* a sexy looking bit of kit) Getting slightly back on topic, the SAM Coupé would have been a good fit for that article. Maybe not sexy in the traditional sense, but certainly unique. Sort of like the girl next door.[1] Chris [1] p Footnote not found, 3:2 -- +-------------------------------------------+ | Unsatisfactory Software - "because it is" | | http://www.unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk | | Your Sinclair: A Celebration | +- http://www.yoursinclair.co.uk -----------+ DISCLAIMER: I may be making all this stuff up again.
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| From | Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> |
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| Date | 2013-04-09 20:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20130409201151.51bcaf0b@talktalk.net> |
| In reply to | #2206 |
On 9 Apr 2013 18:53:15 +0100 "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> wrote: > On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 03:17:10 -0700 (PDT) da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair > were rappin' to MC Geoff: > > > Wait for it... > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/09/feature_ten_sexy_computers_roundup/ > > Look at number 4... or should I say, number PHWOARR? Computers you can walk inside are always cool.[1] > Don't fancy number 3 much, the A600 would have been a better choice > (or the CDTV, now that *is* a sexy looking bit of kit) For a moment there, I thought you meant the CD32. That was definitely *not* one of the sexiest computers ever. At all. Brrr. But yes, the CDTV was very nice. 20 years ahead of its time, when you look at some of the HTPC cases you can buy these days. I actually think the C128 was a good choice. It was by far the best iteration of that Commodore design language.[1] The A500, while vaguely similar, was much less sharp. Maybe pictures don't do it justice (a mate of mine had one "back in the day", as the young people have it). What about the Speccy 128 though, or the QL? All of Rick Dickinson's designs for Sinclair were awesome. (And since we're including games consoles, I'd put the original white Xbox 360 at least alongside the PS3. Especially, oddly enough, in its cheap “Arcade” guise without all the chrome bling. Familiarity - and a redesign - might have bred contempt, but look at it: it's like something out of 2001, or JJ Abrams' Star Trek reboot. If they'd put an Apple logo on it, the hipsters would have gone bananas.) [1] Do you see what I did there? [2] Ooh, get Steven Bailey here! -- Duncan Snowden.
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| From | "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> |
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| Date | 2013-04-09 21:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5164829C.MD-1.4.17.chris.young@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2207 |
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 20:11:51 +0100 da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair were rappin' to MC Duncan Snowden: > I actually think the C128 was a good choice. It was by far the best > iteration of that Commodore design language.[1] The A500, while vaguely > similar, was much less sharp. Maybe pictures don't do it justice (a > mate of mine had one "back in the day", as the young people have it). It's not bad (certainly much superior to the C64 breadbin design), but the A600 is - can I say cute? (you just did - Ed). For the larger all-in-one keyboard design, the ST is better - mostly due to the curvature of the function keys that blend in to the back of the case. The (Acorn) A3010/A3020 had some nice curves too. > (And since we're including games consoles, I'd put the original white > Xbox 360 at least alongside the PS3. Especially, oddly enough, in its > cheap “Arcade†guise without all the chrome bling. Familiarity - > and a redesign - might have bred contempt, but look at it: it's like > something out of 2001, or JJ Abrams' Star Trek reboot. If they'd put an > Apple logo on it, the hipsters would have gone bananas.) It looks a bit too much like a PC - and the cheap looking plasticy Dell cases from a similar era PC at that. The Wii is a much sexier white console. Chris -- +-------------------------------------------+ | Unsatisfactory Software - "because it is" | | http://www.unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk | | Your Sinclair: A Celebration | +- http://www.yoursinclair.co.uk -----------+ DISCLAIMER: I may be making all this stuff up again.
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| From | deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-04-10 08:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.OSX.2.00.1304100846330.56619@imac.dekay.sytes.net> |
| In reply to | #2208 |
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013, Chris Young wrote: > On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 20:11:51 +0100 da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair were rappin' > to MC Duncan Snowden: > >> I actually think the C128 was a good choice. It was by far the best >> iteration of that Commodore design language.[1] The A500, while vaguely >> similar, was much less sharp. Maybe pictures don't do it justice (a >> mate of mine had one "back in the day", as the young people have it). > > It's not bad (certainly much superior to the C64 breadbin design), but > the A600 is - can I say cute? (you just did - Ed). Problem with the A600 is that the 3 status LEDs on the right hand side make it look like there are three keys missing. > For the larger all-in-one keyboard design, the ST is better - mostly > due to the curvature of the function keys that blend in to the back of > the case. The (Acorn) A3010/A3020 had some nice curves too. The A3010/20 were certainly pretty. I like the bright green on them too. > The Wii is a much sexier white console. The black Wii U beats it. I quite like the matt black 360 slim too. All the PS3s look terrible. deKay -- Lofi Gaming - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk Gaming Diary - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/diary Blog - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/blog My computer runs at 3.5MHz and I'm proud of that
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| From | "Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2013-04-10 08:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <kk35pb$rcj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2206 |
Hmm yes, but there have been a lot of computers with a lot of differing looks and abilities of course. The one thing now that is a bit boring is that you have pcs and appleles and the hardware is not a lot different. Thre are more in the mobile and hand held stakes but even here the tendency is to use the same bits. Going back in time it all depends on what you thought suited you. One of the best things about ehe Sinclairs were that they could be very easily programmed. How did we get to todays machines without developing such abilities. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> wrote in message news:5164639B.MD-1.4.17.chris.young@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk... > On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 03:17:10 -0700 (PDT) da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair were > rappin' > to MC Geoff: > >> Wait for it... >> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/09/feature_ten_sexy_computers_roundup/ > > Look at number 4... or should I say, number PHWOARR? > > Don't fancy number 3 much, the A600 would have been a better choice > (or the CDTV, now that *is* a sexy looking bit of kit) > > Getting slightly back on topic, the SAM Coupé would have been a good > fit for that article. Maybe not sexy in the traditional sense, but > certainly unique. Sort of like the girl next door.[1] > > Chris > [1] p Footnote not found, 3:2 > > > -- > +-------------------------------------------+ > | Unsatisfactory Software - "because it is" | > | http://www.unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk | > | Your Sinclair: A Celebration | > +- http://www.yoursinclair.co.uk -----------+ > > DISCLAIMER: I may be making all this stuff up again.
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| From | colboy <colboy@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-04-10 06:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c3938d61-485d-4af4-bafd-ca9cb15b3e79@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2205 |
Can't believe the Memotech MTX 512 doesn't get a mention. Oh how I remember lusting after one of those LOL
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| From | "Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2013-04-14 08:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <kkdk5q$a0u$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2212 |
Want mine? The main reason I found it a pain was that the edge connectors keep needing cleaning and the only way to do this was to open the case hinge it up and slide out the cards and clean them. At least the speccy ones could be cleaned without opening the case! Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "colboy" <colboy@gmail.com> wrote in message news:c3938d61-485d-4af4-bafd-ca9cb15b3e79@googlegroups.com... > Can't believe the Memotech MTX 512 doesn't get a mention. Oh how I > remember lusting after one of those LOL
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| From | Volker Bartheld <dr_versaeg@freenet.de> |
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| Date | 2013-04-14 09:22 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nd8ja39w0odq.dlg@news.bartheld.net> |
| In reply to | #2214 |
Hi! On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:02:58 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote: > The main reason I found it a pain was that the edge connectors keep needing > cleaning and the only way to do this was to open the case hinge it up and > slide out the cards and clean them. At least the speccy ones could be > cleaned without opening the case! I soldered an "edge connector extension" onto the PCB of my speccy which has a gold plating - see http://bartheld.net/temp/dsc_9003.jpg for an impression on how it looks like. This solved the problem once and for all, still works fine today. Unfortunately http://buerklin.de doesn't seem to have them anymore, so you're pretty much on your own... Cheers, Volker P.S.: Please excuse the messy wire routing. I was young, in a hurry and I needed the money. ;-) -- @: I N F O at B A R T H E L D dot N E T 3W: www.bartheld.net
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| From | "Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2013-04-14 15:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <kkeepu$4f9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2215 |
You can't do this on the Memotech as there is only just enough room for the computer, memory board and the comms board. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Volker Bartheld" <dr_versaeg@freenet.de> wrote in message news:nd8ja39w0odq.dlg@news.bartheld.net... > Hi! > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:02:58 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote: >> The main reason I found it a pain was that the edge connectors keep >> needing >> cleaning and the only way to do this was to open the case hinge it up and >> slide out the cards and clean them. At least the speccy ones could be >> cleaned without opening the case! > > I soldered an "edge connector extension" onto the PCB of my speccy which > has a gold plating - see http://bartheld.net/temp/dsc_9003.jpg for an > impression on how it looks like. This solved the problem once and for all, > still works fine today. > > Unfortunately http://buerklin.de doesn't seem to have them anymore, so > you're pretty much on your own... > > Cheers, > Volker > > P.S.: Please excuse the messy wire routing. I was young, in a hurry and I > needed the money. ;-) > > -- > @: I N F O at B A R T H E L D dot N E T > 3W: www.bartheld.net
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| From | andy.z.key@googlemail.com |
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| Date | 2013-05-30 14:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <68b105f5-7d85-46f4-a2fa-19bf4befa912@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2216 |
Its true that the edge connectors on an MTX oxidize and need cleaning.
Also, in some MTXs, the cards inside the case ended up being physically soldered together because of this.
I think the whole strategy of exposing the same bus signals at both ends/sides of the motherboard and certain add-ons was seen as an innovation at the time.
{{{ Andy
http://www.nyangau.org/memotech/memotech.htm
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