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RaspberryPI

Started byhp <ferd@farkel.net>
First post2012-04-04 15:23 -0400
Last post2012-05-27 05:56 -0700
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  RaspberryPI hp <ferd@farkel.net> - 2012-04-04 15:23 -0400
    Re: RaspberryPI Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> - 2012-04-05 16:24 +0100
      Re: RaspberryPI "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> - 2012-04-05 18:46 +0100
        Re: RaspberryPI Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> - 2012-04-05 22:44 +0100
        Re: RaspberryPI jgharston <jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 17:58 -0700
          Re: RaspberryPI BloodBaz <chris.walsh@real-sense.com> - 2012-05-25 17:36 -0700
            Re: RaspberryPI Matthew Westcott <gasman@raww.org> - 2012-05-26 20:41 +0100
      Re: RaspberryPI Guesser <alistair@alistairsserver.no-ip.org> - 2012-04-05 19:06 +0100
    Re: RaspberryPI rogerjowett <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2012-05-18 05:22 -0700
    Re: RaspberryPI sam coupe <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2012-05-27 05:55 -0700
      PIR(en pir)aspberry sam coupe <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2012-05-27 05:56 -0700

#757 — RaspberryPI

Fromhp <ferd@farkel.net>
Date2012-04-04 15:23 -0400
SubjectRaspberryPI
Message-ID<jli72t$cjj$1@speranza.aioe.org>
Listed directly from the RaspberryPI site

"At the celebrations for the BBC Micro’s 30th birthday on Sunday (more 
on that to come, when the organisers’ videos are available), we met the 
rather excellent Andy Taylor. Andy volunteers for the UK Computer 
Museum, and had been working on getting their Raspberry Pi software 
ready to exhibit at the event. Rather than sitting back and twiddling 
his thumbs when he was done, he decided to fill his spare time by 
porting Fuse, a ZX Spectrum emulator, to the Raspberry Pi. I’m not sure 
why (nostalgia’s a powerful thing), but seeing Manic Miner running on a 
Raspberry Pi was, for me, even cooler than seeing Quake 3 back when we 
demoed it last year. (I note we never did set up that Deathmatch. I 
shall add it to the Big List of Things to Do.)"

http://www.raspberrypi.org/

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#761

FromDuncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net>
Date2012-04-05 16:24 +0100
Message-ID<20120405162419.2b924d8b@talktalk.net>
In reply to#757
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:23:13 -0400
hp <ferd@farkel.net> wrote:

> porting Fuse, a ZX Spectrum emulator, to the Raspberry Pi.

Cool. But I would have expected it just to build and run under ArchARM,
without anything in the way of porting. Just grab the PKGBUILD and
patches from https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10350, add 'arm'
to the “arch=” field, and go. After doing the same for libspectrum
etc., of course.

Presumably Fedora wouldn't be much harder: you'd just have to build
it without any help, doing the old “configure && make && make install”
dance.

Or am I missing something? The only ARM device running Arch that I have
at the moment (until I buy a couple of dozen[1] Raspberry Pies[2]) is
headless, so I've never tried it. Is there x86 code in there?

[1] I may be exaggerating. A bit.

[2] "Pis" just looked wrong.

-- 
Duncan Snowden.

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#762

From"Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com>
Date2012-04-05 18:46 +0100
Message-ID<4F7DE868.MD-1.4.17.chris.young@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk>
In reply to#761
On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:24:19 +0100 da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair were rappin'
to MC Duncan Snowden:

> Or am I missing something? The only ARM device running Arch that I have
> at the moment (until I buy a couple of dozen[1] Raspberry Pies[2]) is
> headless, so I've never tried it. Is there x86 code in there?

In FUSE?  It works on PPC, so no there isn't.  Unless there's
something special about the X frontend that I'm not aware of.

> [2] "Pis" just looked wrong.

Surely it should be nPI (where PI should be a PI symbol, but I'm
restricted to ISO-8859-1 in this ancient newsreader so I can't type
one, at least not without it being translated to something else at the
other end), where n is an integer representing the multiple of PI that
you intend to purchase?

Chris


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#766

FromDuncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net>
Date2012-04-05 22:44 +0100
Message-ID<20120405224408.6dfa2a8e@talktalk.net>
In reply to#762
On 5 Apr 2012 18:46:00 +0100
"Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:24:19 +0100 da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair were
> rappin' to MC Duncan Snowden:
> 
> > Is there x86 code in there?
> 
> In FUSE?  It works on PPC, so no there isn't.  Unless there's
> something special about the X frontend that I'm not aware of.

Didn't think so. And he's using the SDL frontend on the framebuffer, so
no X.

I don't want to sound like I'm criticizing here. I *suppose* building
packages for whatever distro he's running on his Pi counts as
“porting”. It just seemed an awfully highfalutin' way to put it. And
maybe I'm wrong in assuming that there wasn't more to it.

But kudos to the guy for showing the wider Pi community what's possible
with the thing. It's totally awesome (like, dude) that it works at all.

> > [2] "Pis" just looked wrong.
> 
> Surely it should be nPI (where PI should be a PI symbol, but I'm
> restricted to ISO-8859-1 in this ancient newsreader so I can't type
> one, at least not without it being translated to something else at the
> other end), where n is an integer representing the multiple of PI that
> you intend to purchase?

Never thought of that.

And that's why, after thirty years, I'm still a bit crap at all this
computer-programming-geekery business. The only reason I know more than
the average bloke in the street is that I've been doing it badly for
longer. 

-- 
Duncan Snowden.

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#770

Fromjgharston <jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk>
Date2012-04-05 17:58 -0700
Message-ID<150f2c50-d013-446e-b658-8ca943707f61@f5g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#762
Chris Young wrote:
> > [2] "Pis" just looked wrong.
> Surely it should be nPI (where PI should be a PI symbol, but I'm

WOG says that "Raspberry Pi" is an adjective, not a noun, so it's
a "Raspberry Pi system" or a "Raspberry Pi development system" or
a "Raspberry Pi computer".

JGH

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#1119

FromBloodBaz <chris.walsh@real-sense.com>
Date2012-05-25 17:36 -0700
Message-ID<845d0c47-06dc-48da-b5df-388e72713f7d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#770
On Friday, April 6, 2012 1:58:18 AM UTC+1, jgharston wrote:
> Chris Young wrote:
> > > [2] "Pis" just looked wrong.
> > Surely it should be nPI (where PI should be a PI symbol, but I'm
> 
> WOG says that "Raspberry Pi" is an adjective, not a noun, so it's
> a "Raspberry Pi system" or a "Raspberry Pi development system" or
> a "Raspberry Pi computer".
> 
> JGH

I thought the legal team insisted on it but the developers shunned using it as an adjective on account of what normal people, including themselves call it on a day-to-day basis.

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#1130

FromMatthew Westcott <gasman@raww.org>
Date2012-05-26 20:41 +0100
Message-ID<a2cpv3F2m9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1119
On 26/05/2012 01:36, BloodBaz wrote:
> On Friday, April 6, 2012 1:58:18 AM UTC+1, jgharston wrote:

>> WOG says that "Raspberry Pi" is an adjective, not a noun, so it's
>> a "Raspberry Pi system" or a "Raspberry Pi development system" or
>> a "Raspberry Pi computer".
>>
>> JGH
>
> I thought the legal team insisted on it but the developers shunned using it as an adjective on account of what normal people, including themselves call it on a day-to-day basis.

That's how I remember it, yep. As soon as the 'trademark rules' page 
went up, there was a brief widespread cry of "um, what?" followed by 
Eben and Liz agreeing that it was a bit silly, and taking that rule out.

I don't have the dates to hand, but it may well have been true at the 
time jgharston made that post...

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#763

FromGuesser <alistair@alistairsserver.no-ip.org>
Date2012-04-05 19:06 +0100
Message-ID<jlkn04$n3t$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#761
On 05/04/2012 16:24, Duncan Snowden wrote:
>
> [2] "Pis" just looked wrong.
>

I thought Raspberry Piss was the new flavour of Panda Pops.

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#1026

Fromrogerjowett <rogerjowett@gmail.com>
Date2012-05-18 05:22 -0700
Message-ID<a1128134-4950-446a-b9e2-f6062b80d0d5@s9g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#757
On Apr 4, 8:23 pm, hp <f...@farkel.net> wrote:
> Listed directly from the RaspberryPI site
>
> "At the celebrations for the BBC Micro’s 30th birthday on Sunday (more
> on that to come, when the organisers’ videos are available), we met the
> rather excellent Andy Taylor. Andy volunteers for the UK Computer
> Museum, and had been working on getting their Raspberry Pi software
> ready to exhibit at the event. Rather than sitting back and twiddling
> his thumbs when he was done, he decided to fill his spare time by
> porting Fuse, a ZX Spectrum emulator, to the Raspberry Pi. I’m not sure
> why (nostalgia’s a powerful thing), but seeing Manic Miner running on a
> Raspberry Pi was, for me, even cooler than seeing Quake 3 back when we
> demoed it last year. (I note we never did set up that Deathmatch. I
> shall add it to the Big List of Things to Do.)"
>
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc4Xoz75yHI

please help persuade lcd to add hmpr bit 5&6 support for mode 3
interlaced sam coupe animations

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#1146

Fromsam coupe <rogerjowett@gmail.com>
Date2012-05-27 05:55 -0700
Message-ID<5d809186-fc97-48ac-8f3b-4fb21d464698@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#757
On Wednesday, 4 April 2012 20:23:13 UTC+1, hp  wrote:
> Listed directly from the RaspberryPI site
> 
> "At the celebrations for the BBC Micro’s 30th birthday on Sunday (more 
> on that to come, when the organisers’ videos are available), we met the 
> rather excellent Andy Taylor. Andy volunteers for the UK Computer 
> Museum, and had been working on getting their Raspberry Pi software 
> ready to exhibit at the event. Rather than sitting back and twiddling 
> his thumbs when he was done, he decided to fill his spare time by 
> porting Fuse, a ZX Spectrum emulator, to the Raspberry Pi. I’m not sure 
> why (nostalgia’s a powerful thing), but seeing Manic Miner running on a 
> Raspberry Pi was, for me, even cooler than seeing Quake 3 back when we 
> demoed it last year. (I note we never did set up that Deathmatch. I 
> shall add it to the Big List of Things to Do.)"
> 
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/

has fuse fixed the +d emulation yet? snapper disc from velesoft ought ot have been able to run 48k SNApshots at 6mhz using external sam 1-4mb ram above 32768 code runs 6mhz without using line itnerrupts to turn screen on/off border port screen off bit set and just use vmpr to alter mode from 1 to any of the other 3 might work no?

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#1148 — PIR(en pir)aspberry

Fromsam coupe <rogerjowett@gmail.com>
Date2012-05-27 05:56 -0700
SubjectPIR(en pir)aspberry
Message-ID<68958eb7-da68-48af-9dea-2093dc2bf152@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#1146
On Sunday, 27 May 2012 13:55:52 UTC+1, sam coupe  wrote:
> On Wednesday, 4 April 2012 20:23:13 UTC+1, hp  wrote:
> > Listed directly from the RaspberryPI site
> > 
> > "At the celebrations for the BBC Micro’s 30th birthday on Sunday (more 
> > on that to come, when the organisers’ videos are available), we met the 
> > rather excellent Andy Taylor. Andy volunteers for the UK Computer 
> > Museum, and had been working on getting their Raspberry Pi software 
> > ready to exhibit at the event. Rather than sitting back and twiddling 
> > his thumbs when he was done, he decided to fill his spare time by 
> > porting Fuse, a ZX Spectrum emulator, to the Raspberry Pi. I’m not sure 
> > why (nostalgia’s a powerful thing), but seeing Manic Miner running on a 
> > Raspberry Pi was, for me, even cooler than seeing Quake 3 back when we 
> > demoed it last year. (I note we never did set up that Deathmatch. I 
> > shall add it to the Big List of Things to Do.)"
> > 
> > http://www.raspberrypi.org/
> 
> has fuse fixed the +d emulation yet? snapper disc from velesoft ought ot have been able to run 48k SNApshots at 6mhz using external sam 1-4mb ram above 32768 code runs 6mhz without using line itnerrupts to turn screen on/off border port screen off bit set and just use vmpr to alter mode from 1 to any of the other 3 might work no?

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