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  Video recording Speccy games on a Mac deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-29 20:55 +0000
    Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac Fred <fredm@spamcop.net> - 2013-01-30 01:41 -0600
      Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 10:43 +0000
      Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 12:55 +0000
        Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac Fred <fredm@spamcop.net> - 2013-01-30 07:54 -0600
          Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac SamTek <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2013-01-30 06:15 -0800
            Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 14:21 +0000
              Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2013-01-30 14:50 +0000
                Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 15:17 +0000
                  Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac SamTek <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2013-01-31 03:08 -0800
                  killfiles Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2013-01-31 13:06 +0000
                  Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac korax1214@gmail.com - 2013-02-02 04:59 -0800
                    Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> - 2013-02-03 16:42 +0000
                      Google Groups Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2013-02-03 17:33 +0000
                        Re: Google Groups SamTek <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2013-03-29 06:38 -0700
                          Re: Google Groups "Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-03-30 09:33 +0000
                            Re: Google Groups Guesser <alistair@alistairsserver.no-ip.org> - 2013-03-30 11:18 +0000
                              Re: Google Groups Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> - 2013-03-30 16:39 +0000
                                Re: Google Groups jgharston <jgh@mdfs.net> - 2013-04-01 12:45 -0700
                                  Re: Google Groups "Paul E Collins" <equi@cl4.invalid> - 2013-04-02 10:53 +0100
                                    Re: Google Groups Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> - 2013-04-02 19:31 +0100
                                      Re: Google Groups "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2013-04-02 20:11 +0000
                                      Re: Google Groups "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2013-04-07 18:47 +0000
                                    Re: Google Groups Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> - 2013-04-02 20:10 +0100
                                      Re: Google Groups "Paul E Collins" <equi@cl4.invalid> - 2013-04-02 23:18 +0100
                                      Re: Google Groups Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> - 2013-04-02 23:37 +0100
              Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac SamTek <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2013-01-31 03:07 -0800
              Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac SamTek <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2013-01-31 03:09 -0800
          Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 14:20 +0000
      Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 13:13 +0000
        Video recording Speccy games in FUSE Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2013-01-30 13:31 +0000
          Re: Video recording Speccy games in FUSE deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 13:50 +0000
            Re: Video recording Speccy games in FUSE Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> - 2013-01-31 12:33 +0000
              Re: Video recording Speccy games in FUSE deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-31 12:55 +0000
        Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac Fred <fredm@spamcop.net> - 2013-01-30 07:54 -0600
          Bug: audio2tape(1) emits warnings with non-printable ASCII codes Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2013-01-30 15:25 +0000
            Re: audio2tape(1) emits warnings with non-printable ASCII codes Fred <fredm@spamcop.net> - 2013-01-31 07:26 -0600
    Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2013-01-30 12:46 +0000
    Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac SamTek <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2013-01-31 03:09 -0800

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#2184 — Re: Google Groups

On 02/04/2013 10:53, Paul E Collins wrote:
> Whose bright idea was it to ditch decades of desktop UI experience and
> reimplement everything in slow, clunky JavaScript?

JavaScript is neither slow nor clunky, and it has the added advantage of 
running on almost any device that provides a web browser.

> Would have made much
> more sense IMO just to develop some good cloud/network technologies and
> attach them to fast, responsive desktop apps, rather than trying to
> reinvent Windows entirely in a browser.

Essentially, the Web has become the platform. Web apps offer the kind of 
write-once/run-anywhere appeal that used to apply to Java (before it 
became heavily Intel-dependent and before people knew how insecure it is 
in the browser).

> Slightly relatedly, has anyone else felt that it's a pity that most
> modern software will become lost and unrunnable -- since it neeeds a
> (usually private and unreleased) server side as well as the client side
> -- and even the client side doesn't come in a box with manuals, but is a
> bunch of pages on a Web site that nobody would bother to save anywhere?

Worse. Even if you have a local copy, once the validation servers are 
shut off you won't be able to run it any more unless you can find a 
pirate copy.

> I can't imagine a future WoS-type site being able to preserve any of the
> current Web-based applications, so they'll be gone forever except for
> screenshots.

The Ultima Online servers were revese engineered by sniffing the client 
and it is now possible to play Ultima Online on free servers. It's an 
exception rather than the rule though and probalby only happened because 
of the huge following that Ultima commands.

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#2186 — Re: Google Groups

Andrew Owen wrote:

> Worse. Even if you have a local copy, once the validation servers are
> shut off you won't be able to run it any more unless you can find a
> pirate copy.

A HTML5 feature, some say.
'Adobe Flash' and 'Unreal 3D-Enigne (under JAVA)' seems to be
implemented to HTML5, yet.
 
I can't see any reason too, why it isn't possible to run such things in
seperate apps. Rather than reeinventing Windows in a browser.

> The Ultima Online servers were revese engineered by sniffing the
> client and it is now possible to play Ultima Online on free servers.
> It's an exception rather than the rule though and probalby only
> happened because of the huge following that Ultima commands.

....huge following that Ultima commands?


-- 
Daniel Mandic

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#2200 — Re: Google Groups

Andrew Owen wrote:

> The Ultima Online servers were revese engineered by sniffing the
> client and it is now possible to play Ultima Online on free servers.
> It's an exception rather than the rule though and probalby only
> happened because of the huge following that Ultima commands.

Now it's falling like scales from eyes. How could I not understand your
paragraph.... (reading english is by far easier than writing)

Do you play in any of the free servers?


-- 
Daniel Mandic

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#2185 — Re: Google Groups

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 10:53:14 +0100
"Paul E Collins" <equi@cl4.invalid> wrote:

> Whose bright idea was it to ditch decades of desktop UI experience
> and reimplement everything in slow, clunky JavaScript? Would have
> made much more sense IMO just to develop some good cloud/network
> technologies and attach them to fast, responsive desktop apps, rather
> than trying to reinvent Windows entirely in a browser.

What I find really weird, though, is that the opposite is happening on
smartphones and tablets. Want to know the weather, or read the news?
Download the app!

Okay, so these things are usually based on web technologies, but they
still present themselves to the user as discrete applications. Yet on
the desktop, people will run a mile to avoid installing an email
client. I don't get it.

-- 
Duncan Snowden.

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#2187 — Re: Google Groups

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:10:41 +0100, Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net>  
wrote:

> What I find really weird, though, is that the opposite is happening on
> smartphones and tablets. Want to know the weather, or read the news?
> Download the app!

Yeah, marketing depts will work hard to avoid offering any *actual* free  
content. If it's an app, they reserve the right to withdraw it later, or  
plaster it with ads. That's not the case if they offer something like a  
simple RSS feed (which would also -- shock horror -- allow computer geeks  
to automate content retrieval and manipulate the results).

Eq.

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#2188 — Re: Google Groups

On 02/04/2013 20:10, Duncan Snowden wrote:
> What I find really weird, though, is that the opposite is happening on
> smartphones and tablets. Want to know the weather, or read the news?
> Download the app!

So long as your platform is still supported. As a Symbian user it's 
often the web app or no app for me.

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#1874

your so fucking funny
all you need is a rewind for rzx fucking hell think about what has been written you fucking moron

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#1877

On Wednesday, 30 January 2013 14:21:00 UTC, deKay  wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, SamTek wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > anyone add rewind to rzx?
> 
> > or get it to work on real hardware?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for totally missing the point.
> there's a point here? thought it was just to take the piss at every opportunity 
this is the EDL/BNP forum - they do have such things now you know...
> 
> 
> How did you lot in here cope with this guy?
> 
> 
> 
> deKay
> 
> -- 
> 
>   Lofi Gaming - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk
> 
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> 
>   Blog - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/blog
> 
>   My computer runs at 3.5MHz and I'm proud of that

so just to recap you'd rather use ultra massive video files rather than incredibly tiny rzx files as video files
that makes perfect sense and i'm the spammer don't forget

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#1869

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Fred wrote:

> deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote:.
>> OK, so how can I get hold of fmfconv that works on OSX? I could probably
>> build it if it'll do so with Xcode?
>
> I need to do a statically linked build on the command line (I'll look this
> weekend). It doesn't build with Xcode.

Awesome, thanks.

deKay
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#1863

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Fred wrote:

> deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote:
>> I want to record myself playing Speccy games on an emulator. Which Mac
>> (Snow Leopard or Lion, if that matters) based emulators let me do this?
>
> The new Fuse beta allows saving gameplay to FMF files and fuse-utils comes
> with a package fmfconv that lets you transcode to various ffmpeg formats
> (H.264, DVD etc. ).
>
> Download from the files section of the fuse-for-macosx sourceforge page
> though I haven't yet looked at providing binaries of fmfconv.

Oh, more questions! (sorry)

When I try to record a movie, I go to File > Movie Recording > Record..., 
but then it asks me to browse for a file rather than (what I expected) 
create one.  I touch'ed test.fmf and chose that and it seemed to record a 
file, though.

Aside from fmfconv, can anything else play or convert these files?

Thanks!

deKay
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  Lofi Gaming - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk
  Gaming Diary - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/diary
  Blog - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/blog
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#1864 — Video recording Speccy games in FUSE

>>>>> deKay  <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> writes:

[...]

 > When I try to record a movie, I go to File > Movie Recording >
 > Record..., but then it asks me to browse for a file rather than (what
 > I expected) create one.  I touch'ed test.fmf and chose that and it
 > seemed to record a file, though.

	In the SDL variant of the GUI, TAB provides a way to enter the
	name of a non-existing file.  (I'm not sure about the GTK one.)

[...]

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#1865 — Re: Video recording Speccy games in FUSE

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Ivan Shmakov wrote:

>>>>>> deKay  <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> > When I try to record a movie, I go to File > Movie Recording >
> > Record..., but then it asks me to browse for a file rather than (what
> > I expected) create one.  I touch'ed test.fmf and chose that and it
> > seemed to record a file, though.
>
> 	In the SDL variant of the GUI, TAB provides a way to enter the
> 	name of a non-existing file.  (I'm not sure about the GTK one.)
>
> [...]

Sadly this isn't the case here - tis'a file open, not file save, dialogue 
box that comes up.

deKay
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#1881 — Re: Video recording Speccy games in FUSE

On 30/01/2013 13:50, deKay wrote:
>> > When I try to record a movie, I go to File > Movie Recording >
>> > Record..., but then it asks me to browse for a file rather than (what
>> > I expected) create one.  I touch'ed test.fmf and chose that and it
>> > seemed to record a file, though.
>>
>>     In the SDL variant of the GUI, TAB provides a way to enter the
>>     name of a non-existing file.  (I'm not sure about the GTK one.)
>>
>> [...]
>
> Sadly this isn't the case here - tis'a file open, not file save,
> dialogue box that comes up.

I thought I'd reported that bug. I got as far as making a recording from 
an RZX but then I didn't know what to do with the file that was output. 
Also the RZX didn't set the hi-res screen mode on playback, but I think 
that may have been down to missing ROMs (long story, don't ask). I am 
really looking forward to the new release of Fuse and I expect I'll be 
making a lot of use of the video feature.

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#1882 — Re: Video recording Speccy games in FUSE

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013, Andrew Owen wrote:

> I thought I'd reported that bug. I got as far as making a recording from an 
> RZX but then I didn't know what to do with the file that was output. Also the 
> RZX didn't set the hi-res screen mode on playback, but I think that may have 
> been down to missing ROMs (long story, don't ask). I am really looking 
> forward to the new release of Fuse and I expect I'll be making a lot of use 
> of the video feature.

Yeah, I really need video (rather than RZX) as I want to do some more 
uploads to http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/gameover/ :)

The few I did were on Spectactulator, but I don't like using a PC just for 
this purpose.

deKay
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#1866

deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote:
> When I try to record a movie, I go to File > Movie Recording > Record...,
> but then it asks me to browse for a file rather than (what I expected)
> create one.  I touch'ed test.fmf and chose that and it seemed to record a file, though.

Hmm that's a bug, I'll fix that ASAP. Thanks for the report!

> Aside from fmfconv, can anything else play or convert these files?

Not right now, but hopefully the future holds a QuickTime codec. 

Fred

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#1873 — Bug: audio2tape(1) emits warnings with non-printable ASCII codes

>>>>> Fred  <fredm@spamcop.net> writes:
>>>>> deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote:

 >> When I try to record a movie, I go to File > Movie Recording >
 >> Record..., but then it asks me to browse for a file rather than
 >> (what I expected) create one.  I touch'ed test.fmf and chose that
 >> and it seemed to record a file, though.

 > Hmm that's a bug, I'll fix that ASAP.  Thanks for the report!

	Here's another one: when audio2tape(1) (of fuse-emulator-utils,
	1.0.0 debian 4; and yes, I know I should've filed it on the
	Debian BTS first) fails to recognize an integral number of bytes
	on the block being analyzed, it emits a non-printable ASCII code
	instead of the number of bits it was able to recognize in the
	latest read byte.  E. g.:

Error have incomplete byte (^C bits)

	(Where ^C is, obviously, ASCII control code 3 = ETX.)  Which
	looks exactly as if a %c specifier somehow ended up being used,
	instead of the proper %d.

	Also, taking this opportunity, I'd like to suggest expanding the
	diagnostics emitted by either audio2tape(1) (or, perhaps,
	tzxlist(1); or both) a bit.  For instance, it'd be helpful if
	the "Checksum:" message would include both the read and computed
	checksums, and also that the FLAG byte will be printed out.
	Both may help those who'd analyze non-standard (as in:
	copyprotected) tape signals.

	It'd be nice if the tools showed a complete, human-readable
	decoding of any of the ROM headers encountered, too.  Like:

Type: Header (0)
CODE: "\x9a" (3) 16384, 6912 (32768)

	Given some spare time (which certainly may happen in the near
	future) I'd probably write a patch myself.  (I'd then use [1]
	for the format's reference.)

[1] http://www.zxmodules.de/fileformats/tapformat.html

	TIA.

[...]

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#1884 — Re: audio2tape(1) emits warnings with non-printable ASCII codes

Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> wrote:
> 	Given some spare time (which certainly may happen in the near
> 	future) I'd probably write a patch myself.  
> [...]


Thanks for the reports and suggestions. Patches are always welcome on the
fuse sourceforge pages. 

Fred

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#1861

>>>>> deKay  <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> writes:

[...]

 > I want to record myself playing Speccy games on an emulator.  Which
 > Mac (Snow Leopard or Lion, if that matters) based emulators let me do
 > this?

	... Wouldn't it make sense to record .rzx?  (Perhaps along with
	the video.)  FUSE is capable of that, too.

-- 
FSF associate member #7257

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#1876

On Tuesday, 29 January 2013 20:55:27 UTC, deKay  wrote:
> I did ask this a couple of years ago, but I wonder if things have moved 
> 
> on...
> 
> 
> 
> I want to record myself playing Speccy games on an emulator. Which Mac 
> 
> (Snow Leopard or Lion, if that matters) based emulators let me do this?
> 
> 
> 
> deKay
> 
> -- 
> 
>   Lofi Gaming - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk
> 
>   Gaming Diary - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/diary
> 
>   Blog - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/blog
> 
>   My computer runs at 3.5MHz and I'm proud of that

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