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| Started by | deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> |
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| First post | 2013-01-29 20:55 +0000 |
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Video recording Speccy games on a Mac deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-29 20:55 +0000
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac Fred <fredm@spamcop.net> - 2013-01-30 01:41 -0600
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 10:43 +0000
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 12:55 +0000
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac Fred <fredm@spamcop.net> - 2013-01-30 07:54 -0600
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac SamTek <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2013-01-30 06:15 -0800
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 14:21 +0000
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2013-01-30 14:50 +0000
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 15:17 +0000
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac SamTek <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2013-01-31 03:08 -0800
killfiles Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2013-01-31 13:06 +0000
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac korax1214@gmail.com - 2013-02-02 04:59 -0800
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> - 2013-02-03 16:42 +0000
Google Groups Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2013-02-03 17:33 +0000
Re: Google Groups SamTek <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2013-03-29 06:38 -0700
Re: Google Groups "Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-03-30 09:33 +0000
Re: Google Groups Guesser <alistair@alistairsserver.no-ip.org> - 2013-03-30 11:18 +0000
Re: Google Groups Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> - 2013-03-30 16:39 +0000
Re: Google Groups jgharston <jgh@mdfs.net> - 2013-04-01 12:45 -0700
Re: Google Groups "Paul E Collins" <equi@cl4.invalid> - 2013-04-02 10:53 +0100
Re: Google Groups Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> - 2013-04-02 19:31 +0100
Re: Google Groups "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2013-04-02 20:11 +0000
Re: Google Groups "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2013-04-07 18:47 +0000
Re: Google Groups Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> - 2013-04-02 20:10 +0100
Re: Google Groups "Paul E Collins" <equi@cl4.invalid> - 2013-04-02 23:18 +0100
Re: Google Groups Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> - 2013-04-02 23:37 +0100
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac SamTek <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2013-01-31 03:07 -0800
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac SamTek <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2013-01-31 03:09 -0800
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 14:20 +0000
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 13:13 +0000
Video recording Speccy games in FUSE Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2013-01-30 13:31 +0000
Re: Video recording Speccy games in FUSE deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 13:50 +0000
Re: Video recording Speccy games in FUSE Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> - 2013-01-31 12:33 +0000
Re: Video recording Speccy games in FUSE deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-31 12:55 +0000
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac Fred <fredm@spamcop.net> - 2013-01-30 07:54 -0600
Bug: audio2tape(1) emits warnings with non-printable ASCII codes Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2013-01-30 15:25 +0000
Re: audio2tape(1) emits warnings with non-printable ASCII codes Fred <fredm@spamcop.net> - 2013-01-31 07:26 -0600
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2013-01-30 12:46 +0000
Re: Video recording Speccy games on a Mac SamTek <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2013-01-31 03:09 -0800
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| From | deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-01-29 20:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Video recording Speccy games on a Mac |
| Message-ID | <alpine.OSX.2.00.1301292054190.89097@imac.dekay.sytes.net> |
I did ask this a couple of years ago, but I wonder if things have moved on... I want to record myself playing Speccy games on an emulator. Which Mac (Snow Leopard or Lion, if that matters) based emulators let me do this? deKay -- Lofi Gaming - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk Gaming Diary - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/diary Blog - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/blog My computer runs at 3.5MHz and I'm proud of that
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| From | Fred <fredm@spamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2013-01-30 01:41 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <113128514381223371.493744fredm-spamcop.net@news.iinet.net.au> |
| In reply to | #1847 |
deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote: > I want to record myself playing Speccy games on an emulator. Which Mac > (Snow Leopard or Lion, if that matters) based emulators let me do this? The new Fuse beta allows saving gameplay to FMF files and fuse-utils comes with a package fmfconv that lets you transcode to various ffmpeg formats (H.264, DVD etc. ). Download from the files section of the fuse-for-macosx sourceforge page though I haven't yet looked at providing binaries of fmfconv. Fred
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| From | deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-01-30 10:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.OSX.2.00.1301301043160.89097@imac.dekay.sytes.net> |
| In reply to | #1858 |
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Fred wrote: > deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote: >> I want to record myself playing Speccy games on an emulator. Which Mac >> (Snow Leopard or Lion, if that matters) based emulators let me do this? > > The new Fuse beta allows saving gameplay to FMF files and fuse-utils comes > with a package fmfconv that lets you transcode to various ffmpeg formats > (H.264, DVD etc. ). > > Download from the files section of the fuse-for-macosx sourceforge page > though I haven't yet looked at providing binaries of fmfconv. I shall take a look! Thanks! deKay -- Lofi Gaming - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk Gaming Diary - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/diary Blog - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/blog My computer runs at 3.5MHz and I'm proud of that
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| From | deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-01-30 12:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.OSX.2.00.1301301255110.89097@imac.dekay.sytes.net> |
| In reply to | #1858 |
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Fred wrote: > deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote: >> I want to record myself playing Speccy games on an emulator. Which Mac >> (Snow Leopard or Lion, if that matters) based emulators let me do this? > > The new Fuse beta allows saving gameplay to FMF files and fuse-utils comes > with a package fmfconv that lets you transcode to various ffmpeg formats > (H.264, DVD etc. ). > > Download from the files section of the fuse-for-macosx sourceforge page > though I haven't yet looked at providing binaries of fmfconv. OK, so how can I get hold of fmfconv that works on OSX? I could probably build it if it'll do so with Xcode? deKay -- Lofi Gaming - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk Gaming Diary - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/diary Blog - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/blog My computer runs at 3.5MHz and I'm proud of that
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| From | Fred <fredm@spamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2013-01-30 07:54 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <1817047198381246536.272298fredm-spamcop.net@news.iinet.net.au> |
| In reply to | #1862 |
deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote:. > OK, so how can I get hold of fmfconv that works on OSX? I could probably > build it if it'll do so with Xcode? I need to do a statically linked build on the command line (I'll look this weekend). It doesn't build with Xcode. Fred
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| From | SamTek <rogerjowett@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-01-30 06:15 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <57f145ca-ac31-442b-8d68-8cc37c9b7f84@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1867 |
anyone add rewind to rzx? or get it to work on real hardware?
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| From | deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-01-30 14:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.OSX.2.00.1301301420340.89097@imac.dekay.sytes.net> |
| In reply to | #1868 |
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, SamTek wrote: > anyone add rewind to rzx? > or get it to work on real hardware? Thanks for totally missing the point. How did you lot in here cope with this guy? deKay -- Lofi Gaming - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk Gaming Diary - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/diary Blog - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/blog My computer runs at 3.5MHz and I'm proud of that
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| From | Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-01-30 14:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <874nhy7mia.fsf@violet.siamics.net> |
| In reply to | #1870 |
>>>>> deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> writes: >>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, SamTek wrote: [Cross-posting to news:news.misc.] >> anyone add rewind to rzx? or get it to work on real hardware? > Thanks for totally missing the point. > How did you lot in here cope with this guy? There's that little-known KILLFILE feature in every other newsreader currently in existence. Thanks for bringing him back from the oblivion by the means of quoting, however. (Well, just kidding, as I don't actually use Gnus scoring for this group. The others may, though.) -- FSF associate member #7257
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| From | deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-01-30 15:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.OSX.2.00.1301301516580.89097@imac.dekay.sytes.net> |
| In reply to | #1871 |
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > There's that little-known KILLFILE feature in every other > newsreader currently in existence. > > Thanks for bringing him back from the oblivion by the means of > quoting, however. > > (Well, just kidding, as I don't actually use Gnus scoring for > this group. The others may, though.) I haven't used a killfile in years! I certainly won't start now. I'll just be ignoring him instead. deKay -- Lofi Gaming - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk Gaming Diary - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/diary Blog - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/blog My computer runs at 3.5MHz and I'm proud of that
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| From | SamTek <rogerjowett@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-01-31 03:08 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6a9090a0-102a-4523-a2c4-e81518475126@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1872 |
On Wednesday, 30 January 2013 15:17:33 UTC, deKay wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > > > > > There's that little-known KILLFILE feature in every other > > > newsreader currently in existence. > > > > > > Thanks for bringing him back from the oblivion by the means of > > > quoting, however. > > > > > > (Well, just kidding, as I don't actually use Gnus scoring for > > > this group. The others may, though.) > > > > I haven't used a killfile in years! I certainly won't start now. I'll just > > be ignoring him instead. > > > > deKay > > -- > > Lofi Gaming - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk > > Gaming Diary - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/diary > > Blog - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/blog > > My computer runs at 3.5MHz and I'm proud of that vully for you you twat
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| From | Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-01-31 13:06 +0000 |
| Subject | killfiles |
| Message-ID | <87sj5h5wom.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> |
| In reply to | #1872 |
>>>>> deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> writes: >>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> There's that little-known KILLFILE feature in every other newsreader >> currently in existence. >> Thanks for bringing him back from the oblivion by the means of >> quoting, however. >> (Well, just kidding, as I don't actually use Gnus scoring for this >> group. The others may, though.) > I haven't used a killfile in years! I certainly won't start now. > I'll just be ignoring him instead. Does that mean that, effectively, you're going use a "wetware" implementation of killfiles? Well, that's my current preference for low-traffic groups, too. -- FSF associate member #7257
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| From | korax1214@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2013-02-02 04:59 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <01230985-f073-4d5d-8bf3-0b304b24486f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1872 |
On Wednesday, 30 January 2013 15:17:33 UTC, deKay wrote: > I haven't used a killfile in years! I certainly won't start now. I'll just > be ignoring him instead. I'm on Google Groups so can't use a killfile; hence I too just ignore SpamTrek's posts. Except for the one the other day, when I couldn't resist giving him a taste of his own rubbish by deliberately misconstruing his use of the term "DMA", which is the sort of thing he does, except probably not on purpose. However, if I were running Agent, he would have ended in my killfile long ago. Just as the emails he still persists in sending me, despite my saying here more than once that they will all be deleted unopened, arrive in my Spam folder with the rest of the junk mail.
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| From | Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> |
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| Date | 2013-02-03 16:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20130203164236.131e0135@talktalk.net> |
| In reply to | #1896 |
On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:59:58 -0800 (PST) korax1214@gmail.com wrote: > I'm on Google Groups so can't use a killfile Let's hear it for Progress, folks! All those luddites cowering in corners with their local NNTP clients don't know what they're missing... -- Duncan Snowden.
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| From | Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-02-03 17:33 +0000 |
| Subject | Google Groups |
| Message-ID | <878v751ew1.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> |
| In reply to | #1898 |
>>>>> Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> writes:
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:59:58 -0800 (PST) korax1214@gmail.com wrote:
[Cross-posting to news:comp.internet.services.google and
news:news.misc, and setting Followup-To: there.]
>> I'm on Google Groups so can't use a killfile
> Let's hear it for Progress, folks! All those luddites cowering in
> corners with their local NNTP clients don't know what they're
> missing...
The problem of the "Usenet proper" is not that NNTP user agents
are inherently "worse" than HTTP ones, but that setting up one
of the former is easily ten times as hard as setting up a
Google Groups account, especially for those who already have
accounts on a dozen of other Web services.
However, I believe that there /can/ be a Usenet-like (or
Fidonet-like, if you like) network, with all the "killfiles and
local spools" of Usenet, yet as simple as taking a few clicks to
set up an account -- either free or paid for, and allowing all
the weird stuff common to the Web of today, such as exchanging
photos and the like.
Somehow, however, it makes me doubt that those active on today's
Usenet will be the ones to bring such a new network into
existence, or even to join one once it's started...
... Thanks to Google Groups, however, for providing easy access
to my posts for my less computer-savvy acquaintances.
Unfortunately, now that they're making a switch to a
JavaScript-based interface, my guess is that they won't be
accessible anymore to anyone but those who use one of the
"major" browsers. FWIW, I've left them the following bit as
"the reason I opted to use the old interface:"
Unfortunately, the new version relies on running site-provided
executable (JavaScript) code on my computer, which, although not as
insecure as running site-provided .exe files, I still do not
anticipate.
Besides, it's incompatible with Lynx, my browser of choice.
I guess, there's still hope that given enough feedback of such a
kind, they may revert their decision to take the current,
pure-HTML, interface down.
--
FSF associate member #7257
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| From | SamTek <rogerjowett@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-03-29 06:38 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Google Groups |
| Message-ID | <fb4f8e5f-68c3-4a93-b716-94e894d6da37@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1899 |
On Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:33:18 UTC, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > >>>>> Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> writes: > > >>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:59:58 -0800 (PST) korax1214@gmail.com wrote: > > > > [Cross-posting to news:comp.internet.services.google and > > news:news.misc, and setting Followup-To: there.] > > > > >> I'm on Google Groups so can't use a killfile > > > > > Let's hear it for Progress, folks! All those luddites cowering in > > > corners with their local NNTP clients don't know what they're > > > missing... > > > > The problem of the "Usenet proper" is not that NNTP user agents > > are inherently "worse" than HTTP ones, but that setting up one > > of the former is easily ten times as hard as setting up a > > Google Groups account, especially for those who already have > > accounts on a dozen of other Web services. > > > > However, I believe that there /can/ be a Usenet-like (or > > Fidonet-like, if you like) network, with all the "killfiles and > > local spools" of Usenet, yet as simple as taking a few clicks to > > set up an account -- either free or paid for, and allowing all > > the weird stuff common to the Web of today, such as exchanging > > photos and the like. > > > > Somehow, however, it makes me doubt that those active on today's > > Usenet will be the ones to bring such a new network into > > existence, or even to join one once it's started... > > > > ... Thanks to Google Groups, however, for providing easy access > > to my posts for my less computer-savvy acquaintances. > > Unfortunately, now that they're making a switch to a > > JavaScript-based interface, my guess is that they won't be > > accessible anymore to anyone but those who use one of the > > "major" browsers. FWIW, I've left them the following bit as > > "the reason I opted to use the old interface:" > > > > Unfortunately, the new version relies on running site-provided > > executable (JavaScript) code on my computer, which, although not as > > insecure as running site-provided .exe files, I still do not > > anticipate. > > > > Besides, it's incompatible with Lynx, my browser of choice. > > > > I guess, there's still hope that given enough feedback of such a > > kind, they may revert their decision to take the current, > > pure-HTML, interface down. > > > > -- > > FSF associate member #7257 is it possible to record two types of avi video file one at 50Hz and one at 60Hz - most people are watching zx spectrum pal 50Hz tv video recordings on 60Hz monitors on there pc that is what is ruining them
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| From | "Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2013-03-30 09:33 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Google Groups |
| Message-ID | <kj6bdo$1n3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2169 |
I don't want any of that, I like text only, but then I'm rather biased against web forums for hopefully obvious reasons. What the heck is hard about setting up a news client? If you can set up an email client then you can set up a news one, and with the current high profile of yahoo etc having their webmail address books raided, I'm keeping my address book safe and on a machine I can turn off when I go to bed or am othersie engaged, nudg nudge. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "SamTek" <rogerjowett@gmail.com> wrote in message news:fb4f8e5f-68c3-4a93-b716-94e894d6da37@googlegroups.com... > On Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:33:18 UTC, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> >>>>> Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> writes: >> >> >>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:59:58 -0800 (PST) korax1214@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> [Cross-posting to news:comp.internet.services.google and >> >> news:news.misc, and setting Followup-To: there.] >> >> >> >> >> I'm on Google Groups so can't use a killfile >> >> >> >> > Let's hear it for Progress, folks! All those luddites cowering in >> >> > corners with their local NNTP clients don't know what they're >> >> > missing... >> >> >> >> The problem of the "Usenet proper" is not that NNTP user agents >> >> are inherently "worse" than HTTP ones, but that setting up one >> >> of the former is easily ten times as hard as setting up a >> >> Google Groups account, especially for those who already have >> >> accounts on a dozen of other Web services. >> >> >> >> However, I believe that there /can/ be a Usenet-like (or >> >> Fidonet-like, if you like) network, with all the "killfiles and >> >> local spools" of Usenet, yet as simple as taking a few clicks to >> >> set up an account -- either free or paid for, and allowing all >> >> the weird stuff common to the Web of today, such as exchanging >> >> photos and the like. >> >> >> >> Somehow, however, it makes me doubt that those active on today's >> >> Usenet will be the ones to bring such a new network into >> >> existence, or even to join one once it's started... >> >> >> >> ... Thanks to Google Groups, however, for providing easy access >> >> to my posts for my less computer-savvy acquaintances. >> >> Unfortunately, now that they're making a switch to a >> >> JavaScript-based interface, my guess is that they won't be >> >> accessible anymore to anyone but those who use one of the >> >> "major" browsers. FWIW, I've left them the following bit as >> >> "the reason I opted to use the old interface:" >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, the new version relies on running site-provided >> >> executable (JavaScript) code on my computer, which, although not as >> >> insecure as running site-provided .exe files, I still do not >> >> anticipate. >> >> >> >> Besides, it's incompatible with Lynx, my browser of choice. >> >> >> >> I guess, there's still hope that given enough feedback of such a >> >> kind, they may revert their decision to take the current, >> >> pure-HTML, interface down. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> FSF associate member #7257 > > is it possible to record two types of avi video file > one at 50Hz and one at 60Hz - most people are watching zx spectrum pal > 50Hz tv video recordings on 60Hz monitors on there pc > that is what is ruining them
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| From | Guesser <alistair@alistairsserver.no-ip.org> |
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| Date | 2013-03-30 11:18 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Google Groups |
| Message-ID | <kj6hhk$qsj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2173 |
On 30/03/2013 09:33, Brian Gaff wrote: > If you can set up an email client then you can set up a news one While it seems bizarre to people like you and me, most people seem to have forgotten what "native client" means.
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| From | Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> |
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| Date | 2013-03-30 16:39 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Google Groups |
| Message-ID | <kj74gr$b49$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2174 |
I suspect most people can't set up an email client these days either. On 30/03/2013 11:18, Guesser wrote: > On 30/03/2013 09:33, Brian Gaff wrote: >> If you can set up an email client then you can set up a news one > > While it seems bizarre to people like you and me, most people seem to > have forgotten what "native client" means.
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| From | jgharston <jgh@mdfs.net> |
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| Date | 2013-04-01 12:45 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Google Groups |
| Message-ID | <5a19c507-0c60-43a1-b051-2c6739656643@j9g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2175 |
Andrew Owen wrote: > I suspect most people can't set up an email client these days either. In my experience most people don't even *know* what an email client is, they think everything is "the web", and access everything via the web. JGH
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| From | "Paul E Collins" <equi@cl4.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-04-02 10:53 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Google Groups |
| Message-ID | <op.wuwq20hn34qdui@flay.home> |
| In reply to | #2177 |
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:45:42 +0100, jgharston <jgh@mdfs.net> wrote: > Andrew Owen wrote: >> I suspect most people can't set up an email client these days either. > > In my experience most people don't even *know* what an email client > is, they think everything is "the web", and access everything via the > web. Whose bright idea was it to ditch decades of desktop UI experience and reimplement everything in slow, clunky JavaScript? Would have made much more sense IMO just to develop some good cloud/network technologies and attach them to fast, responsive desktop apps, rather than trying to reinvent Windows entirely in a browser. Slightly relatedly, has anyone else felt that it's a pity that most modern software will become lost and unrunnable -- since it neeeds a (usually private and unreleased) server side as well as the client side -- and even the client side doesn't come in a box with manuals, but is a bunch of pages on a Web site that nobody would bother to save anywhere? I can't imagine a future WoS-type site being able to preserve any of the current Web-based applications, so they'll be gone forever except for screenshots. Eq.
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