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The best collection of speccy games, denied included (Activision, Codemasters, Ultimate)

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  The best collection of speccy games, denied included (Activision, Codemasters, Ultimate) Espineter <espineter@gmail.com> - 2011-10-02 04:10 -0700
    Re: The best collection of speccy games, denied included (Activision, Codemasters, Ultimate) zx128k@gmail.com - 2011-10-05 09:45 -0700
      Re: The best collection of speccy games, denied included (Activision, Codemasters, Ultimate) Espineter <espineter@gmail.com> - 2011-10-06 15:59 -0700
        Re: The best collection of speccy games, denied included (Activision, Codemasters, Ultimate) "Jason Orpington" <jasonorpington@teachers.org> - 2012-01-30 17:31 +0000
          Re: The best collection of speccy games, denied included (Activision, Codemasters, Ultimate) hp <ferd@farkel.net> - 2012-01-30 15:52 -0500
            Re: The best collection of speccy games, denied included (Activision, Codemasters, Ultimate) "Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-01-31 08:00 +0000
              Re: The best collection of speccy games, denied included (Activision, Codemasters, Ultimate) Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2012-02-05 13:22 +0700
              Re: The best collection of speccy games, denied included (Activision, Codemasters, Ultimate) Phil Reynolds <phil-news@tinsleyviaduct.com> - 2012-02-05 08:07 +0000
                Re: The best collection of speccy games, denied included (Activision, Codemasters, Ultimate) Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> - 2012-02-05 18:59 +0000
                  Re: The best collection of speccy games, denied included (Activision, Codemasters, Ultimate) Guesser <alistair@alistairsserver.no-ip.org> - 2012-02-05 22:48 +0000
    Re: The best collection of speccy games, denied included (Activision, Codemasters, Ultimate) korax1214 <korax1214@gmail.com> - 2011-10-24 01:45 -0700

#449 — The best collection of speccy games, denied included (Activision, Codemasters, Ultimate)

More than 5000 TAP files, nice user interface with loading screens and
snap-in screens.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SCJKJ8JH

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#452

Thank you for sharing.

Much appreciated.

You even included 2 games by me… 

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#453

File updated:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D0G459P8

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#624

"Espineter"  wrote in message 
news:a62041f2-9923-418c-9ff4-c8cd893068c3@i14g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...

>File updated:
>
>http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D0G459P8

Any chance you could upload this to a domain which isn't seized? Megaupload 
seem to be having difficulties with the Feds.

Jason 

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#627

On 1/30/2012 12:31 PM, Jason Orpington wrote:
> "Espineter" wrote in message
> news:a62041f2-9923-418c-9ff4-c8cd893068c3@i14g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...

>> File updated:

>> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D0G459P8

> Any chance you could upload this to a domain which isn't seized?
> Megaupload seem to be having difficulties with the Feds.

> Jason

It might be that it can be released as a torrent ??

Once out there that way I could also serve as a seed for it.

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#629

Its a real shame that companies cannot just issue a statement in suitable 
legalese that basically says, this old code is fine to distribute as a 
historical artefact, but all characters and game designs remain the 
copyright of their respective owners, and any use outside of the original 
code  is prohibited.

 Brian

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"hp" <ferd@farkel.net> wrote in message 
news:jg6vv1$r82$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> On 1/30/2012 12:31 PM, Jason Orpington wrote:
>> "Espineter" wrote in message
>> news:a62041f2-9923-418c-9ff4-c8cd893068c3@i14g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
>
>>> File updated:
>
>>> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D0G459P8
>
>> Any chance you could upload this to a domain which isn't seized?
>> Megaupload seem to be having difficulties with the Feds.
>
>> Jason
>
> It might be that it can be released as a torrent ??
>
> Once out there that way I could also serve as a seed for it. 

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#632

>>>>> Brian Gaff <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:

[...]

 > Its a real shame that companies cannot just issue a statement in
 > suitable legalese that basically says, this old code is fine to
 > distribute as a historical artefact, but all characters and game
 > designs remain the copyright of their respective owners, and any use
 > outside of the original code is prohibited.

	... Smart managers?  Impossible!

-- 
FSF associate member #7257

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#633

As this is in response to Brian, I'm top-posting...

The other thing is, some of us remember things like this. On principle I
won't buy anything by Activision or Codemasters, and Ultimate is now
owned by Microsoft whom I have long avoided anyway. It might be
different if they were still selling the old titles in a form I could
use, but in general they aren't. I apply the same principle to other
companies too, of course, with Sony being about the only one I excuse a
little.


On 31/01/12 08:00, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Its a real shame that companies cannot just issue a statement in suitable 
> legalese that basically says, this old code is fine to distribute as a 
> historical artefact, but all characters and game designs remain the 
> copyright of their respective owners, and any use outside of the original 
> code  is prohibited.
> 
>  Brian
> 


-- 
Phil Reynolds
mail: phil-news@tinsleyviaduct.com
Followups to NEWS please, that's what it's there for.

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#634

I'll continue the top posting in case Brian wants to follow the thread.

What he proposes isn't actually all that unusual. A lot of open-source
games are dual-licenced, with the code under something like the GPL,
and the copyright holders of the “assets“ reserving their rights. Free
software purists don't like it, but it happens. And there's no problem
with “active protection“ rules, any more than Mozilla's trademarks are
threatened by their inclusion in Firefox. That's their distribution
model.

I think it would be eminently possible for a company to say that the
code of its 8-bit games was now under a BSD licence, but it retains
copyright and trademark rights on the graphics and characters. The only
likely difficulty is that in these old games, code and assets weren't
kept very seperate. I imagine that's the way these companies are
looking at it: how can you use two different licences for what is,
effectively, one single block of code? I'm not so sure that's a problem.

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 08:07:26 +0000
Phil Reynolds <phil-news@tinsleyviaduct.com> wrote:

> As this is in response to Brian, I'm top-posting...
> 
> The other thing is, some of us remember things like this. On
> principle I won't buy anything by Activision or Codemasters, and
> Ultimate is now owned by Microsoft whom I have long avoided anyway.
> It might be different if they were still selling the old titles in a
> form I could use, but in general they aren't. I apply the same
> principle to other companies too, of course, with Sony being about
> the only one I excuse a little.
> 
> 
> On 31/01/12 08:00, Brian Gaff wrote:
> > Its a real shame that companies cannot just issue a statement in
> > suitable legalese that basically says, this old code is fine to
> > distribute as a historical artefact, but all characters and game
> > designs remain the copyright of their respective owners, and any
> > use outside of the original code  is prohibited.
> > 
> >  Brian
> > 
> 
> 

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#635

Really? cause *I* imagine the way they look at is more along the lines 
of "oh get lost, we're not going to waste money paying lawyers to draft 
up licenses just for the sake of a few weirdos who want to play obsolete 
computer games"

:)

On 05/02/2012 18:59, Duncan Snowden wrote:
> I imagine that's the way these companies are looking at it: how can you use two different licences for what is, effectively, one single block of code? I'm not so sure that's a problem.

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#489

On Oct 2, 12:10 pm, Espineter <espine...@gmail.com> wrote:
> More than 5000 TAP files, nice user interface with loading screens and
> snap-in screens.
>
> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SCJKJ8JH

"Denied"?  I thought the word on the Speccy community was
"denienced"... :-)

(Search the WoS forums for the origin of this term...)

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