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Spectrum emulation

Started by"Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>
First post2013-09-28 10:14 +0100
Last post2013-10-03 08:14 +0000
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  Spectrum emulation "Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-28 10:14 +0100
    Re: Spectrum emulation Guesser <alistair@alistairsserver.no-ip.org> - 2013-09-28 14:25 +0100
    Re: Spectrum emulation "dott.Piergiorgio" <chiedetelo@ask.me> - 2013-09-28 17:17 +0200
      Re: Spectrum emulation "Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-29 09:27 +0100
    Re: Spectrum emulation jgh@mdfs.net - 2013-09-28 16:55 -0700
      Re: Spectrum emulation "Paul E Collins" <equi@cl4.invalid> - 2013-09-29 02:24 +0100
        Re: Spectrum emulation "Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-29 09:29 +0100
          Re: Spectrum emulation Daniele <me@unknown.org> - 2013-09-29 10:46 +0200
            Re: Spectrum emulation jgh@mdfs.net - 2013-10-02 17:35 -0700
              Re: Spectrum emulation Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> - 2013-10-05 02:49 +0100
            Re: Spectrum emulation "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 08:17 +0000
            Re: Spectrum emulation "Bladder Bot" <BladderBot@BladderBot.K0m> - 2013-11-26 11:43 +0000
      Re: Spectrum emulation "Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-29 09:28 +0100
    Re: Spectrum emulation "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 08:14 +0000

#2473 — Spectrum emulation

From"Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date2013-09-28 10:14 +0100
SubjectSpectrum emulation
Message-ID<l266kt$h1q$1@dont-email.me>
So I have had a paper letter to BG Services today. When I get some eyes on 
it I will probably respond but as far as I can tell from a dodgy reading of 
it by dodgy tech, the person has found the old Z80 emulator and it 
surprisingly, not will not run on modern machines.
 What is the current best emulator to point him at do you think. I'm not 
able to tell myself for the obvious reason of being blind.
 Brian

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#2477

FromGuesser <alistair@alistairsserver.no-ip.org>
Date2013-09-28 14:25 +0100
Message-ID<l26lce$l9d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2473
Fuse

http://fuse-emulator.sourceforge.net/

On 28/09/2013 10:14, Brian Gaff wrote:
> So I have had a paper letter to BG Services today. When I get some eyes on
> it I will probably respond but as far as I can tell from a dodgy reading of
> it by dodgy tech, the person has found the old Z80 emulator and it
> surprisingly, not will not run on modern machines.
>   What is the current best emulator to point him at do you think. I'm not
> able to tell myself for the obvious reason of being blind.
>   Brian
>

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#2478

From"dott.Piergiorgio" <chiedetelo@ask.me>
Date2013-09-28 17:17 +0200
Message-ID<TpC1u.7114$tE4.968@tornado.fastwebnet.it>
In reply to#2473
Il 28/09/2013 11:14, Brian Gaff ha scritto:
> So I have had a paper letter to BG Services today. When I get some eyes on
> it I will probably respond but as far as I can tell from a dodgy reading of
> it by dodgy tech, the person has found the old Z80 emulator and it
> surprisingly, not will not run on modern machines.
>   What is the current best emulator to point him at do you think. I'm not
> able to tell myself for the obvious reason of being blind.

let's me guess: your interest in the Spectrum is because of the large 
collection of adventure games ? (now called Interactive fiction)

if I'm correct, I can assume that your need is an emulator compatible 
with voice readers ?

Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio

(whose actually has the opposite issue, that is, I'm deaf...)

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#2483

From"Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date2013-09-29 09:27 +0100
Message-ID<l28o9t$jcn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2478
No its not for me. Its from an ex customer when I used to distribute Z80 
emulator. I know that no emulator can work in the actual screen with access 
tech, as its graphic text.


I have given up on that one. No he has asked for info and I'm not sure he is 
even on line. He merely found the old disc and tried it.
 It says, your computer is too fast and exits!

Brian

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"dott.Piergiorgio" <chiedetelo@ask.me> wrote in message 
news:TpC1u.7114$tE4.968@tornado.fastwebnet.it...
> Il 28/09/2013 11:14, Brian Gaff ha scritto:
>> So I have had a paper letter to BG Services today. When I get some eyes 
>> on
>> it I will probably respond but as far as I can tell from a dodgy reading 
>> of
>> it by dodgy tech, the person has found the old Z80 emulator and it
>> surprisingly, not will not run on modern machines.
>>   What is the current best emulator to point him at do you think. I'm not
>> able to tell myself for the obvious reason of being blind.
>
> let's me guess: your interest in the Spectrum is because of the large 
> collection of adventure games ? (now called Interactive fiction)
>
> if I'm correct, I can assume that your need is an emulator compatible with 
> voice readers ?
>
> Best regards from Italy,
> dott. Piergiorgio
>
> (whose actually has the opposite issue, that is, I'm deaf...) 

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#2480

Fromjgh@mdfs.net
Date2013-09-28 16:55 -0700
Message-ID<40bb7391-3401-47be-9bff-64c54e6bfe07@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2473
Brian Gaff wrote:
> the person has found the old Z80 emulator and it 
> surprisingly, not will not run on modern machines.

Which "old Z80 emulator"? Lunter's Z80 emulator? I've got both Z80
and WinZ80 both of which will "run on modern machines".

JGH

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#2481

From"Paul E Collins" <equi@cl4.invalid>
Date2013-09-29 02:24 +0100
Message-ID<op.w35fjhgf34qdui@flay.home>
In reply to#2480
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:55:43 +0100, <jgh@mdfs.net> wrote:

> Which "old Z80 emulator"? Lunter's Z80 emulator? I've got both Z80 and  
> WinZ80 both of which will "run on modern machines".

Would WinZ80 run on 64-bit Windows? That might be the issue.

Eq.

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#2485

From"Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date2013-09-29 09:29 +0100
Message-ID<l28odb$jo9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2481
No as I recall, the earlier version of the emulator had issues with speed 
being too high.
 Brian

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"Paul E Collins" <equi@cl4.invalid> wrote in message 
news:op.w35fjhgf34qdui@flay.home...
> On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:55:43 +0100, <jgh@mdfs.net> wrote:
>
>> Which "old Z80 emulator"? Lunter's Z80 emulator? I've got both Z80 and 
>> WinZ80 both of which will "run on modern machines".
>
> Would WinZ80 run on 64-bit Windows? That might be the issue.
>
> Eq. 

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#2486

FromDaniele <me@unknown.org>
Date2013-09-29 10:46 +0200
Message-ID<20130929104641.b5b59acc.me@unknown.org>
In reply to#2485
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:29:31 +0100
"Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> No as I recall, the earlier version of the emulator had issues with speed 
> being too high.
>  Brian
> 

Maybe running the emulator under DOSBOX could solve the issue.
DOSBOX provides a DOS environment giving the choice of adjusting the speed
-- 
Daniele 

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#2491

Fromjgh@mdfs.net
Date2013-10-02 17:35 -0700
Message-ID<4670eee6-4d9c-4531-a057-25f5f1b484ae@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2486
On the subject of emulators, I usually use WinZ80 but I've
been (trying to) test some others.

Do FUSE, Spectaculator and SPIN actually support loading from
.TAP files with custom ROMs? I've been using my JGH.ROM so I
can use the CAT command to list what's on a tape (and I prefer
one-character entry and white-on-black colour scheme).

FUSE - dies as soon as anything tries to read from tape.

Spectaculator - flashes the border with thin black/white bars
and never reads anything. The "Tape catalog" function lists
the contens of the tape, but the Spectrum never "sees" any of
it.

SPIN - flashes the border with thin black/white bars
and never reads anything. The "Tape catalog" function lists
the contents of the tape, but the Spectrum never "sees" any of
it.

JGH

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#2544

FromAndrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk>
Date2013-10-05 02:49 +0100
Message-ID<l2nr7r$8fs$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#2491
On 03/10/2013 01:35, jgh@mdfs.net wrote:
> Do FUSE, Spectaculator and SPIN actually support loading from
> .TAP files with custom ROMs?

Generally speaking emulators switch off tape traps when you supply a 
custom ROM as they assume it's an IF2 ROM. Sometimes you can trick them 
into leaving them switched on by replacing the default ROMs.

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#2495

From"Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com>
Date2013-10-03 08:17 +0000
Message-ID<524d2837$0$12672$91cee783@newsreader03.highway.telekom.at>
In reply to#2486
Daniele wrote:

> Maybe running the emulator under DOSBOX could solve the issue.
> DOSBOX provides a DOS environment giving the choice of adjusting the
> speed

Not without adding an QL emulator in between ;-)


-- 
Daniel Mandic

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#2628

From"Bladder Bot" <BladderBot@BladderBot.K0m>
Date2013-11-26 11:43 +0000
Message-ID<l721hi$jnm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2486
"Daniele" <me@unknown.org> wrote in message news:20130929104641.b5b59acc.me@unknown.org...
> On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:29:31 +0100
> "Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> No as I recall, the earlier version of the emulator had issues with speed 
>> being too high.
>>  Brian
>> 
> 
> Maybe running the emulator under DOSBOX could solve the issue.
> DOSBOX provides a DOS environment giving the choice of adjusting the speed
> -- 
> Daniele



DOSBOX with x128 works fine for me

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#2484

From"Brian Gaff" <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date2013-09-29 09:28 +0100
Message-ID<l28obg$jin$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2480
Well his disc won't so its probably an old version. Remember I had to bow 
out as I lost my sight around that time.
 Brian

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<jgh@mdfs.net> wrote in message 
news:40bb7391-3401-47be-9bff-64c54e6bfe07@googlegroups.com...
> Brian Gaff wrote:
>> the person has found the old Z80 emulator and it
>> surprisingly, not will not run on modern machines.
>
> Which "old Z80 emulator"? Lunter's Z80 emulator? I've got both Z80
> and WinZ80 both of which will "run on modern machines".
>
> JGH 

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#2494

From"Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com>
Date2013-10-03 08:14 +0000
Message-ID<524d275f$0$2343$91cee783@newsreader04.highway.telekom.at>
In reply to#2473
Brian Gaff wrote:

> So I have had a paper letter to BG Services today. When I get some
> eyes on it I will probably respond but as far as I can tell from a
> dodgy reading of it by dodgy tech, the person has found the old Z80
> emulator and it surprisingly, not will not run on modern machines.
> What is the current best emulator to point him at do you think. I'm
> not able to tell myself for the obvious reason of being blind.  Brian

'Klive' is making a good figure going with HD Screens. It was always my
favourite Speccy Emulator, but the fullscreen picture going with
HD-crap TV-sets is surprising me (someone behind the software has
thought straightforward, genius coder IMHO).
By the way, Klive makes always a nice picture in fullscreen mode. This
piece of software is more hardware than software to me :). Not that the
Speccy is a frame controlled smooth gfx arcade machine, but Klive makes
sense, to emulate the speccy as best as it can and it has other (fuzzy)
features too.
Other emulators do have too much fuzzy features but missing the basics,
or even both of them.

Using 'Klive' I would set the (flatscreen) TV to 50Hz, or 100Hz when
using a CRT-Monitor....
E.g.: Set 1920x1080 or 1366x768 (HD Ready) on the TV. Then turn ON
Fullscreen mode with Aperture Grille feature ON in Klive, and enjoy IMO
a masterpiece of emulator software. Mmmmmhh... what a picture, and
smooth as far as possible.


-- 
Daniel Mandic

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