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  Re: Sinclair QL pre Andreas Kohlbach <selem20.16.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2016-09-15 17:34 -0400
    Re: Sinclair QL pre "Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 08:10 +0100
      Re: Sinclair QL pre nospam.outsoft@f165.n2.z21.fsxnet (outsoft) - 2016-09-17 17:05 +1200

#4245 — Re: Sinclair QL pre

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:16:11 +1200, Your Name wrote:
>
> In article <57da7fff$0$43838$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>,
> <Ice_Breaker@particlesbbs.dyndns.org> wrote:
>> > 
>> >Hi to all there.
>> >
>> >If some interested on our project :-)
>> >
>> >https://sinclairql.wordpress.com
>> >
>> >Best regards
>> >
>> >--Simon<
>> 
>> Cool, something to check out.  I have a
>> US Sinclair QL sitting right here...
>> albeit, gathering dust.
>
> They make excellent doorstops, but were and are of no use for anything
> else. It certainly has nothing to do with real computers like
> Commodores

QLs are larger than Spectrums or ZX81. They also predate the Amiga for
being the first consumer product offering multitasking by months. Still
it was a commercial failure. Probably thanks to the Micro-Drives.

> - if you must discuss Sinclair's useless toys, take it to the proper
> newsgroup: comp.sys.sinclair

I agree here. Setting followup.
-- 
Andreas
You know you are a redneck if
your momma has ever been involved in a cuss fight with the principal.

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#4246

Some of these other groups are awfully rude.
 I personally feel that the reason the QL was not commercially successful 
was it was aimed at no market properly. It looked like a toy, came out with 
half its firmware dangling out the back and bugs, had so called business 
software. The main screen modes did not make it that good for games, either. 
The Microdrives worked well enough, but could not really hold enough data 
for it to be taken seriously for much, which meant that just like most 
Sinclair machines it needed to have stuff dangling out the back to be of any 
use for business use. The keyboard was a bit of a mess, failing too quickly 
like the Spectrum plus one did due to poor membrane design.
 The processor was 16bit but the cost savings were made by giving it  an 8 
bit bus making it a bit on the slow side.
 I remember back in the day seeing an add on for the Spectrum which had 
another z80 and a better display system that plugged into the back of the 
speccy, outperform the QL with the correct software, and it ran CP/M 
something Amstrad did with the plus 3 of course but they never fixed the 
display.
 Heck When the Sam came out Prodos, which I funded the dev of, was 
effectively CP/M which could knock  things into a cocked hat as well, and 
for a bit more money, Memotech was very good for this too, though not quite 
as fast and with less ram.

So really Sinclair jumped the gun with a half baked project as usual. Having 
met the bloke I actually liked him as a person but he was very much 
interested in the next project, not the current one.
 Arguably his best device was the Z88 portable computer. For what it did and 
its robustness it was very economic in my view.
 Brian

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"Andreas Kohlbach" <selem20.16.ankman@spamgourmet.net> wrote in message 
news:87d1k43l11.fsf@usenet.ankman.de...
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:16:11 +1200, Your Name wrote:
>>
>> In article <57da7fff$0$43838$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>,
>> <Ice_Breaker@particlesbbs.dyndns.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Hi to all there.
>>> >
>>> >If some interested on our project :-)
>>> >
>>> >https://sinclairql.wordpress.com
>>> >
>>> >Best regards
>>> >
>>> >--Simon<
>>>
>>> Cool, something to check out.  I have a
>>> US Sinclair QL sitting right here...
>>> albeit, gathering dust.
>>
>> They make excellent doorstops, but were and are of no use for anything
>> else. It certainly has nothing to do with real computers like
>> Commodores
>
> QLs are larger than Spectrums or ZX81. They also predate the Amiga for
> being the first consumer product offering multitasking by months. Still
> it was a commercial failure. Probably thanks to the Micro-Drives.
>
>> - if you must discuss Sinclair's useless toys, take it to the proper
>> newsgroup: comp.sys.sinclair
>
> I agree here. Setting followup.
> -- 
> Andreas
> You know you are a redneck if
> your momma has ever been involved in a cuss fight with the principal. 

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#4247

I'm a QL/Sam Coupe/Zx81/Speccy  presever Brian, great to find someone here
that appreciate the QL, Sal Coupe' and other Sinclair machines ;)

Il will post a message here for introduce me.

Hope that you can enjoy out works of preservation and that you can help us.

Best regards from Italy




--Simon

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