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| Started by | Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2021-01-07 10:33 +0000 |
| Last post | 2021-01-10 13:27 -0500 |
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Will raspberry get ECC support? Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-07 10:33 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-07 14:49 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2021-01-07 16:37 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-07 18:12 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-01-07 19:12 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2021-01-08 22:16 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-08 18:04 +0200
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? dave@661.org (David Griffith) - 2021-01-08 22:50 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-09 08:23 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-09 08:57 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-09 09:24 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-09 10:41 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-09 11:58 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-09 13:51 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2021-01-09 14:19 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-09 14:55 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-10 11:53 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-10 13:00 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-09 14:29 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2021-01-09 18:02 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-10 08:46 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2021-01-10 16:54 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-10 18:12 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2021-01-10 21:07 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-11 04:44 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-11 11:39 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-11 12:30 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-12 20:36 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-11 04:43 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-11 18:23 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-11 20:50 +0100
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-11 20:56 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-11 21:17 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-11 22:04 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-12 04:50 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-12 19:00 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-12 19:52 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 12:51 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-13 13:29 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 14:17 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-13 13:42 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-13 15:25 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-12 19:57 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-12 20:57 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 12:54 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-13 13:34 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Nikolaj Lazic <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> - 2021-01-13 14:30 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-12 20:45 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-12 21:05 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-12 21:38 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 13:35 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 19:07 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 20:08 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 13:02 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 18:33 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-13 19:25 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 19:46 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-13 20:56 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-13 21:13 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 06:31 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 05:48 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 10:26 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 11:27 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-14 13:53 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 14:32 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 13:01 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-11 04:19 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-10 12:01 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2021-01-10 15:46 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-10 16:21 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2021-01-10 22:08 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-11 05:55 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2021-01-11 14:58 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-11 15:33 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-11 23:32 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-11 23:48 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-12 00:02 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-12 01:48 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-12 18:55 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-12 07:41 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2021-01-12 09:42 +0100
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? nospam.Richard.Falken@f1.n770.z6694.fidonet.org (Richard Falken) - 2021-01-12 05:14 +1300
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-12 07:41 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-12 09:15 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-12 10:26 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-01-12 10:46 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-12 11:21 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-12 11:25 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-12 11:56 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-12 12:02 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-12 19:01 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-12 19:52 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2021-01-12 22:46 +0100
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 12:55 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-13 13:28 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 14:24 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-13 18:38 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 19:49 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2021-01-14 08:37 +0100
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-01-13 21:20 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-13 21:53 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-14 03:03 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 06:14 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2021-01-10 22:16 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? nospam.Richard.Falken@f1.n770.z6644.fidonet.org (Richard Falken) - 2021-01-10 17:09 +1300
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-11 04:17 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2021-01-11 17:34 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-01-11 09:48 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-11 11:14 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-12 21:00 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-12 22:09 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 19:14 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-11 11:50 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-12 21:08 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 13:38 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 19:23 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 20:16 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2021-01-14 09:44 +0100
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-13 21:06 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-11 12:29 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-11 12:46 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-11 13:54 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-12 21:27 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 13:52 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 19:36 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-13 21:16 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 06:22 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-12 21:26 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 13:51 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-12 20:57 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-09 14:40 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-10 08:43 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-09 14:59 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-09 10:11 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-01-09 09:56 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-09 10:41 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-01-09 16:59 -0500
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-09 23:24 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-10 08:29 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-10 09:48 +0000
Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-01-10 13:27 -0500
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| From | Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> |
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| Date | 2021-01-12 09:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5FFD60EB.4B3B054B@Berger-Odenthal.De> |
| In reply to | #25763 |
Martin Gregorie wrote: > What do YOU think they should do? Simple: While there is a scramble for the vaccine, hold back. When the skeptics and doubters prevail, go first, like Johnson and Biden. -- /¯\ No | Dipl.-Ing. F. Axel Berger Tel: +49/ 221/ 7771 8067 \ / HTML | Roald-Amundsen-Straße 2a Fax: +49/ 221/ 7771 8069 X in | D-50829 Köln-Ossendorf http://berger-odenthal.de / \ Mail | -- No unannounced, large, binary attachments, please! --
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| From | nospam.Richard.Falken@f1.n770.z6694.fidonet.org (Richard Falken) |
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| Date | 2021-01-12 05:14 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <610456740@f1.n770.z6694.fidonet.org> |
| In reply to | #25763 |
Re: Re: Will raspberry get ECC support? By: Martin Gregorie to Pancho on Mon Jan 11 2021 11:48 pm > Here's a conundrum: should Our Lords And Masters get vaccinated first (to > show confidence to the voters) or be last (on the 'captain is always last > off a sinking ship' principle? > > What do YOU think they should do? He who has confidence in a propcedure must lead by example and follow through himself. Otherwise you get doubtful people. "If the vaccine is so safe, why hasn't the Pfizer CEO taken it yet?" -- gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken
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| From | Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-12 07:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rtjjud$14e7$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #25762 |
On a sunny day (Mon, 11 Jan 2021 23:32:12 +0000) it happened Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> wrote in <rtin5s$cv1$1@dont-email.me>: >You are again ignoring my point about the reasonable doubts of giving >the vaccine to young people. Giving the vaccine to the old is the best >way to reduce the mortality. That is why vaccine approval has been >rushed through as an emergency measure, quite sensibly in my view. >However, I would not believe medical professionals if they claim this >vaccine is as safe as other vaccines which have been tested over decades. Well that all depends does it not? https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/24-dead-and-137-infected-at-ny-nursing-home-after-experimental-covid-injections/ Pfizer shit Kill all old people, those are a burden on society anyways? Was that not also in Hitler's mind? Oh no he sent all kids to war too. This is also good to know about keeping people in lockdown: https://www.rt.com/news/512137-lockdown-ineffective-coronavirus-restrictions/ I think it is very obvious when you have like 3% of people test positive that lockdowns make no sense. I did read the > 3% for London here: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-55588163 You will bump into - or meet one covid case for every 30 people you encounter. Most people most likely have antibodies so it is all panic making and a control trip and yes I am 74 years old and not scared. I think I encountered covid about half a year ago when I got some parcel from China, bought something on ebay, opened it, something got into my lungs, couched a couple of times and that was it. Never felt anything go so deep in my lungs as that time. And I did not have the flue ever, no shots against it either. So nobody is exactly the same -- at DNA level, and experimenting with mRNA on EVERYBODY will kill many. Maybe even people (this is what I think) that _do_ have the immune response will get an over-reaction and die so Pfizer shit is helping the virus at least for some part of the populations. Many years from now, if hummingbeans are still around, a paper will be written how stupid the 2020 generation was and that it was BAD science and I will not get into my theory about multiple big bangs here ;-) but I do intent do put Ubuntu on my Pi4b 8GB as raspi OS has by now convinced me it is let's say crap^H^H^H^H incomplete. Back on topic!!
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| From | Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-12 09:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rtjpca$c1a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #25767 |
On 12/01/2021 07:41, Jan Panteltje wrote: > On a sunny day (Mon, 11 Jan 2021 23:32:12 +0000) it happened Pancho > <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> wrote in <rtin5s$cv1$1@dont-email.me>: > >> You are again ignoring my point about the reasonable doubts of giving >> the vaccine to young people. Giving the vaccine to the old is the best >> way to reduce the mortality. That is why vaccine approval has been >> rushed through as an emergency measure, quite sensibly in my view. >> However, I would not believe medical professionals if they claim this >> vaccine is as safe as other vaccines which have been tested over decades. > > Well that all depends does it not? > https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/24-dead-and-137-infected-at-ny-nursing-home-after-experimental-covid-injections/ > The US has vaccinated millions, it is likely that negative events will occur, for instance applying the vaccine during a not yet recognised infection outbreak at a care home. Without investigation it is very difficult to untangle, coincidence from adverse reaction. It is dangerous to jump to conclusions either that the mass rollout has occurred without adverse reactions and is hence safe or that adverse reactions are due to the vaccine. The sad fact is we just don't know. > Pfizer shit > > Kill all old people, those are a burden on society anyways? > Was that not also in Hitler's mind? > Oh no he sent all kids to war too. > > This is also good to know about keeping people in lockdown: > https://www.rt.com/news/512137-lockdown-ineffective-coronavirus-restrictions/ > > I think it is very obvious when you have like 3% of people test positive that lockdowns make no sense. > I did read the > 3% for London here: > https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-55588163 > It's currently reckoned to be about 5% where I live, people are ignoring the lockdown much more than they did in March/April. AIUI, the projections (SIR, SEIR) suggested a natural (no lockdown) concurrent peak infection rate much, much higher something like 30-50% (I haven't checked figures). This would swamp hospitals. > You will bump into - or meet one covid case for every 30 people you encounter. > > Most people most likely have antibodies so it is all panic making and a control trip > and yes I am 74 years old and not scared. > > I think I encountered covid about half a year ago when I got some parcel from China, bought > something on ebay, opened it, something got into my lungs, couched a couple of times > and that was it. > Never felt anything go so deep in my lungs as that time. > And I did not have the flue ever, no shots against it either. OK, you are starting to sound a little unreliable.
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-12 10:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20210112102652.d188c45e91ed31bc3ec67267@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #25767 |
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 07:41:00 GMT Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: > This is also good to know about keeping people in lockdown: > https://www.rt.com/news/512137-lockdown-ineffective-coronavirus-restrictions/ > > I think it is very obvious when you have like 3% of people test positive > that lockdowns make no sense. Strange how well lockdown worked the first time round when people took it seriously. Here we had the case rate down to less than one a day with an estimated community incidence of one in a million. Then some idiot decided that was good enough and dropped the restrictions. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Joe <joe@jretrading.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-12 10:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20210112104615.0cb7567f@jresid.jretrading.com> |
| In reply to | #25775 |
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 10:26:52 +0000 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 07:41:00 GMT > Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > This is also good to know about keeping people in lockdown: > > https://www.rt.com/news/512137-lockdown-ineffective-coronavirus-restrictions/ > > > > I think it is very obvious when you have like 3% of people test > > positive that lockdowns make no sense. > > Strange how well lockdown worked the first time round when > people took it seriously. > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/04/coronavirus-infections-england-wales-hit-peak-days-lockdown/ "Coronavirus infections in England and Wales peaked several days before the lockdown came in, a new study suggests, indicating that the draconian restrictions were not responsible for the decline in deaths and cases." -- Joe
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| From | Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-01-12 11:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rtk0oj$nr6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #25776 |
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 10:46:15 +0000, Joe wrote: > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/04/coronavirus-infections- england-wales-hit-peak-days-lockdown/ > > "Coronavirus infections in England and Wales peaked several days before > the lockdown came in, a new study suggests, indicating that the > draconian restrictions were not responsible for the decline in deaths > and cases." Kindly provide a citation for the original, peer-reviewed paper, not what the Torygraph thinks it says. -- -- Martin | martin at Gregorie | gregorie dot org
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-01-12 11:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rtk0v4$udp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #25778 |
On 12/01/2021 11:21, Martin Gregorie wrote: >> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/04/coronavirus-infections- > england-wales-hit-peak-days-lockdown/ "Full lockdown in the UK did not come into effect until March 25. However, in the week before, social distancing measures were already in place and many people had begun working from home. Large public gatherings had stopped and bars, restaurants and theatres were starting to close. "
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| From | Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-01-12 11:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rtk2os$nr6$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #25779 |
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 11:25:24 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 12/01/2021 11:21, Martin Gregorie wrote: >>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/04/coronavirus-infections- >> england-wales-hit-peak-days-lockdown/ > > > "Full lockdown in the UK did not come into effect until March 25. > However, in the week before, social distancing measures were already in > place and many people had begun working from home. Large public > gatherings had stopped and bars, restaurants and theatres were starting > to close. " Thats only what the newspaper says - where are the actual numbers? There's so much waffle coming from innumerate pricks^W^Wofficial spokesmen that its impossible to tell whats actually happening with the vaccination rollout. -- -- Martin | martin at Gregorie | gregorie dot org
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-01-12 12:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rtk349$dn5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #25781 |
On 12/01/2021 11:56, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 11:25:24 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 12/01/2021 11:21, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>>>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/04/coronavirus-infections-
>>> england-wales-hit-peak-days-lockdown/
>>
>>
>> "Full lockdown in the UK did not come into effect until March 25.
>> However, in the week before, social distancing measures were already in
>> place and many people had begun working from home. Large public
>> gatherings had stopped and bars, restaurants and theatres were starting
>> to close. "
>
> Thats only what the newspaper says - where are the actual numbers?
> There's so much waffle coming from innumerate pricks^W^Wofficial
> spokesmen that its impossible to tell whats actually happening with the
> vaccination rollout.
>
Indeed. Data, models, prognostications. All jumbled up.
All meaningless. You know and I know that either its all a tissue of
lies or the government is simply applying the lockdown brake every time
the death rate meter goes over a politically unacceptable '70'...
>
>
--
"First, find out who are the people you can not criticise. They are your
oppressors."
- George Orwell
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| From | TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-12 19:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i66a0rFe12eU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #25767 |
On 12 Jan 2021 at 07:41:00 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: > Kill all old people, those are a burden on society anyways? The true burden on Society is people who spell "anyway" as "anyways" or "lose" as "loose". -- Tim
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-01-12 19:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rtkul902ps1@news1.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #25796 |
On 2021-01-12, TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > On 12 Jan 2021 at 07:41:00 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> Kill all old people, those are a burden on society anyways? > > The true burden on Society is people who spell "anyway" as "anyways" or "lose" > as "loose". Ok, your rite. Ekcetera. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | "Some of you may die, \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | but it's a sacrifice X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | I'm willing to make." / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)
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| From | Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> |
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| Date | 2021-01-12 22:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5FFE18CC.7FDDD76A@Berger-Odenthal.De> |
| In reply to | #25796 |
TimS wrote: > The true burden on Society is people who spell "anyway" as "anyways" "Anyways" pained me the first few dozen times I heard it, but not I take it to be American vs. the English I try to speak (and fail -- you should hear my daughter about my accent). -- /¯\ No | Dipl.-Ing. F. Axel Berger Tel: +49/ 221/ 7771 8067 \ / HTML | Roald-Amundsen-Straße 2a Fax: +49/ 221/ 7771 8069 X in | D-50829 Köln-Ossendorf http://berger-odenthal.de / \ Mail | -- No unannounced, large, binary attachments, please! --
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-01-13 12:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rtmqjq$5lv$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #25796 |
On 12/01/2021 19:01, TimS wrote: > On 12 Jan 2021 at 07:41:00 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> Kill all old people, those are a burden on society anyways? > > The true burden on Society is people who spell "anyway" as "anyways" or "lose" > as "loose". > Or those who say 'going forward' when they mean 'in future' -- There is nothing a fleet of dispatchable nuclear power plants cannot do that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent renewable energy.
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-13 13:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20210113132846.f1f19409d4af02800c993da9@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #25826 |
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 12:55:22 +0000 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 12/01/2021 19:01, TimS wrote: > > On 12 Jan 2021 at 07:41:00 GMT, Jan Panteltje > > <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >> Kill all old people, those are a burden on society anyways? > > > > The true burden on Society is people who spell "anyway" as "anyways" or > > "lose" as "loose". > > > Or those who say 'going forward' when they mean 'in future' "in the fullness of time" when they mean "never". -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-01-13 14:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rtmvqe$a6g$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #25831 |
On 13/01/2021 13:28, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 12:55:22 +0000 > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 12/01/2021 19:01, TimS wrote: >>> On 12 Jan 2021 at 07:41:00 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>> <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Kill all old people, those are a burden on society anyways? >>> >>> The true burden on Society is people who spell "anyway" as "anyways" or >>> "lose" as "loose". >>> >> Or those who say 'going forward' when they mean 'in future' > > "in the fullness of time" when they mean "never". > > :-) -- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-01-13 18:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rtnenp0nmf@news2.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #25831 |
On 2021-01-13, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 12:55:22 +0000 > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 12/01/2021 19:01, TimS wrote: >> >>> On 12 Jan 2021 at 07:41:00 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>> <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Kill all old people, those are a burden on society anyways? >>> >>> The true burden on Society is people who spell "anyway" as "anyways" or >>> "lose" as "loose". >> >> Or those who say 'going forward' when they mean 'in future' > > "in the fullness of time" when they mean "never". "at this point in time" when "now" would suffice. "Orientate" is an example of the trend toward polysyllabificationizing. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | "Some of you may die, \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | but it's a sacrifice X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | I'm willing to make." / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-01-13 19:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rtnish$sh9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #25851 |
On 13/01/2021 18:38, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2021-01-13, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > >> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 12:55:22 +0000 >> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On 12/01/2021 19:01, TimS wrote: >>> >>>> On 12 Jan 2021 at 07:41:00 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>>> <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Kill all old people, those are a burden on society anyways? >>>> >>>> The true burden on Society is people who spell "anyway" as "anyways" or >>>> "lose" as "loose". >>> >>> Or those who say 'going forward' when they mean 'in future' >> >> "in the fullness of time" when they mean "never". > > "at this point in time" when "now" would suffice. > > "Orientate" is an example of the trend toward polysyllabificationizing. > In our little island we love that fact that the original noun, 'a burglar' became in efficient English the verb to 'burgle' and in pompous American to 'burglarize' ... Do you also have burglarizations, or did you manage burglaries instead? -- There’s a mighty big difference between good, sound reasons and reasons that sound good. Burton Hillis (William Vaughn, American columnist)
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| From | Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> |
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| Date | 2021-01-14 08:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5FFFF4A0.F7F7BA0F@Berger-Odenthal.De> |
| In reply to | #25851 |
Charlie Gibbs wrote: > "Orientate" is an example of the trend toward polysyllabificationizing. It may just be the influence of the many non-native speakers. "Orient" would not be a verb in most other languaguages. -- /¯\ No | Dipl.-Ing. F. Axel Berger Tel: +49/ 221/ 7771 8067 \ / HTML | Roald-Amundsen-Straße 2a Fax: +49/ 221/ 7771 8069 X in | D-50829 Köln-Ossendorf http://berger-odenthal.de / \ Mail | -- No unannounced, large, binary attachments, please! --
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| From | Joe <joe@jretrading.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-13 21:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20210113212050.4c62796e@jresid.jretrading.com> |
| In reply to | #25796 |
On 12 Jan 2021 19:01:47 GMT TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > On 12 Jan 2021 at 07:41:00 GMT, Jan Panteltje > <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Kill all old people, those are a burden on society anyways? > > The true burden on Society is people who spell "anyway" as "anyways" > or "lose" as "loose". > Almost all problems throughout history have been caused by the ruling class, whether they were monarchs or politicians. Politicians claim to solve problems, but they are almost always problems that were created by other politicians. -- Joe
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