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Simple/obvious drastic improvement.

Started byUnknown <dog@gmail.com>
First post2015-07-02 18:52 +0000
Last post2015-07-03 02:38 -0500
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  Simple/obvious drastic improvement. Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 18:52 +0000
    Re: Simple/obvious drastic improvement. ray carter <ray@zianet.com> - 2015-07-02 20:29 +0000
      Re: Simple/obvious drastic improvement. Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2015-07-03 00:53 +0100
      Re: Simple/obvious drastic improvement. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-07-03 07:56 +0000
    Re: Simple/obvious drastic improvement. druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-07-02 21:29 +0100
    Raspberry Pi 2 1gb version to make a BTC or LTC Virtual Currency Node. mrbrad <lostgonzo@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 02:38 -0500

#9023 — Simple/obvious drastic improvement.

FromUnknown <dog@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-02 18:52 +0000
SubjectSimple/obvious drastic improvement.
Message-ID<pan.2015.07.02.18.54.03@gmail.com>
This is how I know you-are-all-slackers and not advancing the power 
of linux:

Given the decaying memory of all biological entities, including humans,
the 'stack' and the ordering that it gives is central to any process:
from making a cheese & onion sandwich to computing.

The ordering/recentcy provided by the stack demands a RTC.
The need to reset the RTC of the rPi on every reboot would be acceptable,
if this was obviously easy.

Consider: M$:DOS `date`:-
1. shows what its current value is;
2. shows a *VALID SYNTAX* to be easily copied to update, if required.

In contrast *nix: `man date` is 196 lines long !!!

Must each of us zillion slaves break off his important tasks to
research the required syntax for this essential RTC setting.
I did that wastefull brain-numbing exercise 5 years ago - and forgot it.

An example of why date stamping files is essential is:
when trying to recover yesterdays <notes files> in a directory which
has plenty old *.pdf & *BIG.wav ..etc. files. You can't just see the
new files <floating to the stack top>; and searching is painfull,
uneconomical and STOOPID.

How many million rPi & similar need to find victims before they
write a 1-liner: Date, which EASILY allows any fool to set the RTC?

And put the damned label on the front of the bottle - not inside.

Forget about multi-cores and over-clocking. 
It's the boring, trivial details that makes the big difference.

rPi is rather successful because of the 'eco-system' it's got;
which could never be 'built' in most of the rest of the world.

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#9027

Fromray carter <ray@zianet.com>
Date2015-07-02 20:29 +0000
Message-ID<cvll8qFmq98U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#9023
On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 18:52:12 +0000, Unknown wrote:

> This is how I know you-are-all-slackers and not advancing the power of
> linux:
> 
> Given the decaying memory of all biological entities, including humans,
> the 'stack' and the ordering that it gives is central to any process:
> from making a cheese & onion sandwich to computing.
> 
> The ordering/recentcy provided by the stack demands a RTC.
> The need to reset the RTC of the rPi on every reboot would be
> acceptable,
> if this was obviously easy.
> 
> Consider: M$:DOS `date`:-
> 1. shows what its current value is;
> 2. shows a *VALID SYNTAX* to be easily copied to update, if required.
> 
> In contrast *nix: `man date` is 196 lines long !!!
> 
> Must each of us zillion slaves break off his important tasks to research
> the required syntax for this essential RTC setting.
> I did that wastefull brain-numbing exercise 5 years ago - and forgot it.
> 
> An example of why date stamping files is essential is:
> when trying to recover yesterdays <notes files> in a directory which has
> plenty old *.pdf & *BIG.wav ..etc. files. You can't just see the new
> files <floating to the stack top>; and searching is painfull,
> uneconomical and STOOPID.
> 
> How many million rPi & similar need to find victims before they write a
> 1-liner: Date, which EASILY allows any fool to set the RTC?
> 
> And put the damned label on the front of the bottle - not inside.
> 
> Forget about multi-cores and over-clocking.
> It's the boring, trivial details that makes the big difference.
> 
> rPi is rather successful because of the 'eco-system' it's got;
> which could never be 'built' in most of the rest of the world.

If you have it networked, ntp is the obvious and most simple solution.

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#9030

FromStuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
Date2015-07-03 00:53 +0100
Message-ID<54dd1e4219Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
In reply to#9027
In article <cvll8qFmq98U1@mid.individual.net>,
   ray carter <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
> > The ordering/recentcy provided by the stack demands a RTC.

So go buy one

http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/individual/newprodpages/prodinfo.php?prodcode=4D-RaspberryPi-RealTimeClock-RTC

-- 
Stuart Winsor

Tools With A Mission
sending tools across the world
http://www.twam.co.uk/

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#9033

FromRob <nomail@example.com>
Date2015-07-03 07:56 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmpcg1a.6f5.nomail@xs8.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#9027
ray carter <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
> If you have it networked, ntp is the obvious and most simple solution.

Please ignore him.  We know about his problem, and he just does not want
to solve it.

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#9028

Fromdruck <news@druck.org.uk>
Date2015-07-02 21:29 +0100
Message-ID<mn46td$vtb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#9023
On 02/07/2015 19:52, Unknown wrote:
> The ordering/recentcy provided by the stack demands a RTC.
> The need to reset the RTC of the rPi on every reboot would be acceptable,
> if this was obviously easy.

You've done that troll already, move along.

---druck

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#9032 — Raspberry Pi 2 1gb version to make a BTC or LTC Virtual Currency Node.

Frommrbrad <lostgonzo@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-03 02:38 -0500
SubjectRaspberry Pi 2 1gb version to make a BTC or LTC Virtual Currency Node.
Message-ID<mn5e31$pug$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#9023

Here is the full instructions for anyone wishing to run a Bitcoin Node 
or a Litecoin Node using a Raspberry Pi 2 1gb the latest Pi version.
Just got one it was 42 bucks with shipping from the raspberry pi foundation.

These nodes do not pay you any virtual coin, they just support the
networks and decentralize the respect networks.

As a 'former home Bitcoin and soon to be former Litecoin miner' just a 
way to give back to the network and hey....the LCD's are kinda cute?

stuff to do...always more stuff to do :)

the link is below:

http://raspnode.com/about.html

for those into this kinda thing :)



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