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Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-04 15:04 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 17:03 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 01:53 -0400
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:47 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:51 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:57 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-05 20:14 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:49 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 11:12 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:15 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:22 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:39 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-07 02:27 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-07 11:38 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2026-08-07 13:35 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-07 14:10 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-08-07 15:02 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-07 16:32 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> - 2026-08-07 11:01 -0700
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-07 19:16 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-07 19:27 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-07 21:37 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-07 19:35 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-07 22:48 -0400
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-08 09:01 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-08 12:24 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-08 20:47 -0400
Pot metal - was something else The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-09 13:20 +0100
Re: Pot metal - was something else "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-09 15:06 +0200
Re: Pot metal - was something else The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-09 14:24 +0100
Re: Pot metal - was something else Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2026-08-10 10:26 +0100
Re: Pot metal - was something else c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-09 22:48 -0400
Re: Pot metal - was something else rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-09 17:46 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2026-08-08 13:37 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-08 17:31 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-08 18:44 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2026-08-10 10:43 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-10 11:46 +0100
Names ... (Was: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon) Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2026-08-10 12:55 +0100
Re: Names ... (Was: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-10 18:50 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2026-08-12 04:51 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:21 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-08-12 09:39 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-12 21:37 -0400
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-06 23:37 -0400
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-07 18:14 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-05 22:03 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 11:03 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:32 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-06 02:22 -0400
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 11:12 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:09 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:57 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-08-06 14:14 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 14:18 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> - 2026-08-06 09:55 -0700
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:48 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:42 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:43 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-07 02:26 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-06 21:30 +0000
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| From | Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-12 04:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <xNucnevDMOkoZub3nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #38351 |
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Thu, 06 Aug 2026 11:12:09 +0200, s|b wrote: > >> On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 19:49:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> PSUs are generic But Pi zeros are unobtanium right now, except at silly >>> money >>> >>> I can wait. I think I have a spare one somewhere >> >> 'unobtanium', I love it when I learn a new word/expression. If I could >> only remember it, so I can use it myself some day. (-: > > The word has a long history. There is a nuance. 'Vaproware' is a product > that is announced but doesn't exist. The prime example is when Osborne > announced the successor to the Osborne 1, killing the sales of the > existing product without having the replacement in hand. Intel's 432 and > Microsoft's Xenix may fall into that category. > > 'Unobtanium' is a device that exists but you can't buy at the present > time. The Zero is a current example. In the early '80s vendors were > quoting similar lead times of over a year on commodity chips. That, in > part, impacted IBM's PC design. > It does indeed have a long history. The original (and most common) usage is as an unavailable part which renders a whole unavailable, as, for example: “We could fix it if we had a blastercock stabilizer, but they’re made of unobtanium.” The valuable material extracted from the world of Avatar was “unobtainium”—a nice geek callout which apparently levitated. -- -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://michaeljmahon.com
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-12 07:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <115h6tt$k5gh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38399 |
On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 04:51:01 +0000, Michael J. Mahon wrote: > The valuable material extracted from the world of Avatar was > “unobtainium”—a nice geek callout which apparently levitated. Also, the material that the craft was made from in “The Core” (2003).
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| From | Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> |
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| Date | 2026-08-12 09:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <115h7vr$d2mb$1@news1.tnib.de> |
| In reply to | #38400 |
Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 04:51:01 +0000, Michael J. Mahon wrote: > >> The valuable material extracted from the world of Avatar was >> “unobtainium”—a nice geek callout which apparently levitated. > >Also, the material that the craft was made from in “The Core” (2003). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-12 21:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <niydnaBZ7Z1pguD3nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #38400 |
On 8/12/26 03:21, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 04:51:01 +0000, Michael J. Mahon wrote: > >> The valuable material extracted from the world of Avatar was >> “unobtainium”—a nice geek callout which apparently levitated. > > Also, the material that the craft was made from in “The Core” (2003). Ah, I've seen that, some mystery metallic matrix that got stronger and more heat-resistant the more heat and pressure you applied up to 12,000 degrees or more. Ain't gonna be any such thing, but it does help along movie plots kinda like "warp drive" :-)
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 23:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pr-dne6NHKBxz-j3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #38343 |
On 8/6/26 05:12, s|b wrote: > On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 19:49:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> PSUs are generic >> But Pi zeros are unobtanium right now, except at silly money >> >> I can wait. I think I have a spare one somewhere > > 'unobtanium', I love it when I learn a new word/expression. If I could > only remember it, so I can use it myself some day. (-: > > I did a quick search yesterday and found 2 Dutch and 2 Belgian stores > that still had them in stock for under 20 euro. But those were Zero W, > not Zero 2 W. I didn't check if they shipped internationally, probably > not, so they're of no use to many people here. I managed to score two of them, 2Ws, but the price went up $25 USD between buying the first and second - just a few weeks diff. Don't even see the one with the pre-soldered pins anymore. The more expensive one CAME with pins, but you have to solder them on yourself. Today - "CanaKit" Pi5 at $259. Was less than half that 18 months ago. "Kit" (box + a few options) from various makers running $354 to $209. The higher RAM versions seem especially affected since basically all memory-makers shifted production to "AI"-friendly stuff. How are we supposed to use "AI" when we can't even afford, FIND, laptops and such because there's no damned MEMORY ??? The tariff shit is PARTIALLY responsible, but frankly the "AI" angle seems even WORSE. Two years ago I was able to buy complete mini-box PCs (BeeLink, BMax) for $250 and they had good specs. Have several in various roles. But NOW ... Note PI4 kits ... which in some respects I like better (max speed and gizmos ain't everything) ... are about $100 less. So, if you want PI, consider the 4s right now. They're good enough to stream 2k, sometimes 4k, video. "Bare" - Amazon has a an 2gb Pi4 for $86. Alas the 4gb are hardly seen and 8gb ones not at all. Folks, this is A PROBLEM.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-07 18:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ndmlklFrrpgU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #38360 |
On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 23:37:16 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Today - "CanaKit" Pi5 at $259. Was less than half that 18 months ago. > "Kit" (box + a few options) from various makers running $354 to $209. > The higher RAM versions seem especially affected since basically all > memory-makers shifted production to "AI"-friendly stuff. CanaKit Raspberry Pi 5 Starter Kit PRO - Turbine Black (128GB Edition) (8GB RAM) Order placed October 9, 2024 $135.99 'Buy it again' is indeed $259.95. I don't think so. amazon.com/BOSGAME-E5-Ryzen-Business-Office/dp/B0GQ43833C/ Ryzen 5300U 4C/ 8T, 8GB DDR4 256GB M.2 2280 SSD, $259.99 The price history is interesting. The low for the last 30 days was $227.98 but there was a spike to $359.59 around the end of July before falling back to $259.95.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-05 22:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ndhq98F8voU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #38336 |
On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:14:34 +0200, s|b wrote: > That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who > knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available > again.) DigiKey isn't that optimistic. They're saying sometime next year.
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 11:03 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ndj0vlFab94U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #38339 |
On 5 Aug 2026 22:03:21 GMT, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:14:34 +0200, s|b wrote: > > > That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who > > knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available > > again.) > DigiKey isn't that optimistic. They're saying sometime next year. Yesterday, I did a quick search for Raspberry Pi Zero and found 2 Dutch and 2 Belgian stores who still had them in stock and sold them under 20 euro. Just saying... -- s|b
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 18:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ndk296Ff88dU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #38342 |
On Thu, 06 Aug 2026 11:03:57 +0200, s|b wrote: > On 5 Aug 2026 22:03:21 GMT, rbowman wrote: > >> On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:14:34 +0200, s|b wrote: >> >> > That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who >> > knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available >> > again.) > >> DigiKey isn't that optimistic. They're saying sometime next year. > > Yesterday, I did a quick search for Raspberry Pi Zero and found 2 Dutch > and 2 Belgian stores who still had them in stock and sold them under 20 > euro. Just saying... Perhaps the Dutch are more ethical. Obama's election triggered panic buying of ammunition that resulted in bare shelves. Many vendors maintained the current price but quickly exhausted their stock. One vendors which had been known as a cheap source had stock but raised prices almost hourly. When the market normalized many remembered the vendor who used the 'whatever the market will bear' philosophy. The extremely overpriced vendors on Amazon have an advantage. Next year they can return with a brand new name. I did note a new Amazon feature, a 'high price alert' that suggested you might search a little further. The 'price history' graph is also useful.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 02:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <H4mdneOmp715uun3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #38336 |
On 8/5/26 14:14, s|b wrote: > On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 18:57:11 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 05/08/2026 18:47, s|b wrote: >> >> € 13,99 ex VAT > > That's what the site says, but the price you pay would be VAT included. > AFAIK only business owners can buy ex VAT (in a Dutch shop). > >> And out of stock > > That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who > knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available > again.) > >> The point is almost NO one has Pi zeros AT ALL right now. The price is >> irrelevant > > The OP is about the price, so I tend to disagree. I did however forgot 2 > things: tariffs and the power supply. That would have to be bought in > the US. I have no clue what effect tariffs would have since Drumpf > changes his mind like every 5 minutes on this. Hey, was JUST SAYIN' ... the ridiculous price was what I saw on US Amazon the other day. Pi0s were supposed to be DIRT CHEAP - now they're "exotic", EXPENSIVE, tech. This is not all 'tariffs' either. Pi stuff was always way over-priced if you bought it in the USA.
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 11:12 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ndj1foFagvfU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #38341 |
On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 02:22:11 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Hey, was JUST SAYIN' ... the ridiculous price > was what I saw on US Amazon the other day. > > Pi0s were supposed to be DIRT CHEAP - now > they're "exotic", EXPENSIVE, tech. This is > not all 'tariffs' either. Pi stuff was always > way over-priced if you bought it in the USA. Point taken. -- s|b
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 12:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1151q1e$3p218$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38344 |
On 06/08/2026 10:12, s|b wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 02:22:11 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Hey, was JUST SAYIN' ... the ridiculous price >> was what I saw on US Amazon the other day. >> >> Pi0s were supposed to be DIRT CHEAP - now >> they're "exotic", EXPENSIVE, tech. This is >> not all 'tariffs' either. Pi stuff was always >> way over-priced if you bought it in the USA. > > Point taken. > It's not overpriced now,. It's simply unobtainable -- There is nothing a fleet of dispatchable nuclear power plants cannot do that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent renewable energy.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 12:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1151srq$3p218$14@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38341 |
On 06/08/2026 07:22, c186282 wrote: > On 8/5/26 14:14, s|b wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 18:57:11 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 05/08/2026 18:47, s|b wrote: >>> >>> € 13,99 ex VAT >> >> That's what the site says, but the price you pay would be VAT included. >> AFAIK only business owners can buy ex VAT (in a Dutch shop). >>> And out of stock >> >> That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who >> knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available >> again.) >>> The point is almost NO one has Pi zeros AT ALL right now. The price is >>> irrelevant >> >> The OP is about the price, so I tend to disagree. I did however forgot 2 >> things: tariffs and the power supply. That would have to be bought in >> the US. I have no clue what effect tariffs would have since Drumpf >> changes his mind like every 5 minutes on this. > > Hey, was JUST SAYIN' ... the ridiculous price > was what I saw on US Amazon the other day. > > Pi0s were supposed to be DIRT CHEAP - now > they're "exotic", EXPENSIVE, tech. No. They are just in very short supply > This is > not all 'tariffs' either. Pi stuff was always > way over-priced if you bought it in the USA. > Then buy it direct from the UK! I was in Boston on business a short time after my house got burgled and my CD collection stolen. I filled my suitcase with replacement CDs at 2/3rd the price of the UK... -- The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about. Anon.
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| From | Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 14:14 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <dWd*WisNA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #38347 |
In comp.sys.raspberry-pi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 06/08/2026 07:22, c186282 wrote: > > > > Hey, was JUST SAYIN' ... the ridiculous price > > was what I saw on US Amazon the other day. > > > > Pi0s were supposed to be DIRT CHEAP - now > > they're "exotic", EXPENSIVE, tech. > > No. They are just in very short supply Plus buying from a non-official reseller means there's a scalper in the loop. (Hint: Amazon is not always the best place to buy things) > > This is > > not all 'tariffs' either. Pi stuff was always > > way over-priced if you bought it in the USA. > > > Then buy it direct from the UK! To be fair, 'merkins do have tariffs and import fees and whatnot to worry about these days. It's not as simple for them as it is for us. Theo
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 14:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11521j1$3rqu7$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38348 |
On 06/08/2026 14:14, Theo wrote: > To be fair, 'merkins do have tariffs and import fees and whatnot to worry > about these days. It's not as simple for them as it is for us. I wonder what would happen if (once available again) you bought 1000 Pi zeros in the UK, put them in a suitcase and flew home with them, and then sold them on Ebay... -- "An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out only in others...” Tom Wolfe
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| From | wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 09:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1152eae$dp1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38349 |
On 8/6/26 06:18, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 06/08/2026 14:14, Theo wrote: >> To be fair, 'merkins do have tariffs and import fees and whatnot to worry >> about these days. It's not as simple for them as it is for us. > > I wonder what would happen if (once available again) you bought 1000 Pi > zeros in the UK, put them in a suitcase and flew home with them, and > then sold them on Ebay... > US Customs would be very interested in your suitcase!
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 18:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ndk376Ff88dU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #38349 |
On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 14:18:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 06/08/2026 14:14, Theo wrote: >> To be fair, 'merkins do have tariffs and import fees and whatnot to >> worry about these days. It's not as simple for them as it is for us. > > I wonder what would happen if (once available again) you bought 1000 Pi > zeros in the UK, put them in a suitcase and flew home with them, and > then sold them on Ebay... As I mentioned in a previous post US and Canadian customs can be unpredictable. 1000 Zeroes probably would get you special processing. Bringing in Chinese tech might get you very special processing.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 18:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ndk2s4Ff88dU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #38347 |
On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 12:57:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > I was in Boston on business a short time after my house got burgled and > my CD collection stolen. I filled my suitcase with replacement CDs at > 2/3rd the price of the UK... The tax man must have missed your collection. I returned from a Canadian site where I'd been setting up a system and had my toolbox, including a few octal relays in case I had to replace any. The relays were Japanese and I did not have proof that they had been purchased in the US so they charged me the import duty. The customs officers were being pricks. US and Canadian relations have been mixed far before Trump. When the countries are in a pissing contest citizens crossing the borer bear the brunt. I was next to a guy clearing the Canadian side. He was a shoe salesman with his sample case. They nailed him for the duty even though he pointed out they were all left foot shoes.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 21:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1152rkr$501h$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38353 |
On 06/08/2026 19:42, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 12:57:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> I was in Boston on business a short time after my house got burgled and >> my CD collection stolen. I filled my suitcase with replacement CDs at >> 2/3rd the price of the UK... > > The tax man must have missed your collection. I returned from a Canadian > site where I'd been setting up a system and had my toolbox, including a > few octal relays in case I had to replace any. The relays were Japanese > and I did not have proof that they had been purchased in the US so they > charged me the import duty. > But you live in the land of 'Big Bootiful Tariffs' The nation that thinks the rest of the world does not exist, or is a third world shit hole > The customs officers were being pricks. US and Canadian relations have > been mixed far before Trump. When the countries are in a pissing contest > citizens crossing the borer bear the brunt. I was next to a guy clearing > the Canadian side. He was a shoe salesman with his sample case. They > nailed him for the duty even though he pointed out they were all left foot > shoes. I remember flying in from Toronto to New York very early in the morning and the customs officer being very suspicious of my tooth powder... -- No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-07 02:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ndku2eFf88dU20@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #38356 |
On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 21:43:07 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 06/08/2026 19:42, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 12:57:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> I was in Boston on business a short time after my house got burgled >>> and my CD collection stolen. I filled my suitcase with replacement CDs >>> at 2/3rd the price of the UK... >> >> The tax man must have missed your collection. I returned from a >> Canadian site where I'd been setting up a system and had my toolbox, >> including a few octal relays in case I had to replace any. The relays >> were Japanese and I did not have proof that they had been purchased in >> the US so they charged me the import duty. >> > But you live in the land of 'Big Bootiful Tariffs' > The nation that thinks the rest of the world does not exist, or is a > third world shit hole That episode would have been around 1972. They also checked to make sure I wasn't a draft dodger sneaking home. The relationshi p was strange even before NAFTA. The funniest adventure was when a friend and sailed a International 500 yawl from Kittery ME up the coast to St. John NB. We'd been to Grand Manan which is also NB but doesn't have a customs office so we cleared at the St. John harbor. We were low on vital supplies so we asked the nice customs lady where the nearest liquor store was. "You guys just came from the States? You're supposed to smuggle booze into Canada, not buy it here!" I will admit to some smuggling. When setting up a system in Trois Rivieres they'd assigned me a minder since most of the people couldn't speak English and I have no French. He went above and beyond, taking me around town after work so I asked if there was any way I could return the favor. He was fond of Prince Albert which is a US brand despite the name and not available or expensive in Canada. He got his Prince Albert in a can to echo the popular prank call. Canada was always bitchy about tobacco. They confiscated my father's Lucky Strikes on one trip. I didn't smoke until I was in my 20s and strange enough started with Exports in Ontario but in the US reverted to Luckies.
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