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Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-22 16:36 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 18:56 +0100
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-22 19:33 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 20:18 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-22 21:20 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 23:29 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 08:29 +0100
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 22:48 +0100
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-06-22 20:11 +0200
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-06-22 23:01 +0100
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-22 23:55 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS The Nomad <nomad@the.desert.invalid> - 2026-06-23 07:01 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-23 11:59 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-24 21:42 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-06-22 20:19 +0100
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-22 20:31 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-06-22 22:55 +0100
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-22 22:48 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-23 00:20 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-23 03:57 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-23 12:10 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-06-23 13:28 +0100
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 01:08 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-24 13:52 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 16:43 +0100
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-26 14:43 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2026-06-23 04:28 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-23 12:25 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2026-06-23 04:22 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-23 07:21 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2026-06-23 08:19 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 10:23 +0100
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 01:10 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-06-24 13:26 +0100
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 13:44 +0100
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2026-06-25 16:01 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-25 17:05 +0100
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-25 23:32 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-26 02:01 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 10:05 +0100
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-26 17:51 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 21:51 +0100
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2026-06-26 20:22 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 21:59 +0000
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-06-25 14:24 +0100
Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-25 23:31 +0000
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| From | bp@www.zefox.net |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 16:36 +0000 |
| Subject | Librecad on RasPiOS |
| Message-ID | <111boa3$1lg5j$1@dont-email.me> |
Has anybody had success using librecad on Raspberry Pi OS? I'm trying, and noticed that the about box reports: Version: 2.2.0-alpha Compiler: GNU GCC 12.2.0 Compiled on: Dec 26 2022 Qt Version: 5.15.8 Boost Version: 1.74.0 The compile date is four years from this past December, which seems a long time ago for an -alpha version. I'm having great difficulty making librecad work by tring to follow the instructions, both in the librecad manual and in online tutorials. If there's a good written (not video) tutorial it might help quite a bit, but I haven't found one. Part of my ineptitude is surely caused by first learning CAD on a Macintosh (Ashlar Graphite), but I'm starting to wonder if something more (maybe an outdated APT repository) is part of my difficulties. Thanks for reading, and any suggestions, bob prohaska
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| From | Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 18:56 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <111bsvp$1n4ra$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38040 |
On 22/06/2026 17:36, bp@www.zefox.net wrote: > Has anybody had success using librecad on Raspberry Pi OS? > > I'm trying, and noticed that the about box reports: > > Version: 2.2.0-alpha > Compiler: GNU GCC 12.2.0 > Compiled on: Dec 26 2022 > Qt Version: 5.15.8 > Boost Version: 1.74.0 > > The compile date is four years from this past December, which > seems a long time ago for an -alpha version. > > I'm having great difficulty making librecad work by tring to > follow the instructions, both in the librecad manual and in > online tutorials. If there's a good written (not video) tutorial > it might help quite a bit, but I haven't found one. > > Part of my ineptitude is surely caused by first learning CAD > on a Macintosh (Ashlar Graphite), but I'm starting to wonder > if something more (maybe an outdated APT repository) is part > of my difficulties. > > Thanks for reading, and any suggestions, > > bob prohaska > Current version seems to be: librecad_2.2.0.2-3_arm64.deb See https://packages.debian.org/sid/arm64/librecad/download Rpi OS apt is often well out of date -- Chris
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| From | bp@www.zefox.net |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 19:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <111c2ld$1okg1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38041 |
Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> wrote: > On 22/06/2026 17:36, bp@www.zefox.net wrote: >> Has anybody had success using librecad on Raspberry Pi OS? >> >> I'm trying, and noticed that the about box reports: >> >> Version: 2.2.0-alpha >> Compiler: GNU GCC 12.2.0 >> Compiled on: Dec 26 2022 >> Qt Version: 5.15.8 >> Boost Version: 1.74.0 >> >> The compile date is four years from this past December, which >> seems a long time ago for an -alpha version. >> >> I'm having great difficulty making librecad work by tring to >> follow the instructions, both in the librecad manual and in >> online tutorials. If there's a good written (not video) tutorial >> it might help quite a bit, but I haven't found one. >> >> Part of my ineptitude is surely caused by first learning CAD >> on a Macintosh (Ashlar Graphite), but I'm starting to wonder >> if something more (maybe an outdated APT repository) is part >> of my difficulties. >> >> Thanks for reading, and any suggestions, >> >> bob prohaska >> > > Current version seems to be: librecad_2.2.0.2-3_arm64.deb > See https://packages.debian.org/sid/arm64/librecad/download > > Rpi OS apt is often well out of date How would I go about using that repository? I've always used sudo apt install (packagename)..... Thanks for posting! bob prohaska
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 20:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n9tjknFud1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #38044 |
On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 19:33:01 -0000 (UTC), bp wrote: > How would I go about using that repository? I've always used sudo apt > install (packagename)..... The easiest way is to go to the site, download the deb, and then 'sudo apt install librecad_2.2.0.2-3_arm64.deb'
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| From | bp@www.zefox.net |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 21:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <111c8u0$1q2dl$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38045 |
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 19:33:01 -0000 (UTC), bp wrote:
>
>> How would I go about using that repository? I've always used sudo apt
>> install (packagename).....
>
> The easiest way is to go to the site, download the deb, and then 'sudo apt
> install librecad_2.2.0.2-3_arm64.deb'
Looks like no go:
bob@raspberrypi:~/Downloads$ sudo apt install ./librecad_2.2.0.2-3_arm64.deb
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting 'librecad' instead of './librecad_2.2.0.2-3_arm64.deb'
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
librecad : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.38) but 2.36-9+rpt2+deb12u14 is to be installed
Depends: libmuparser2v5 (>= 2.3.4) but 2.3.3-0.1 is to be installed
Depends: libqt5core5t64 (>= 5.15.1) but it is not installable
Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.7.0) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.7.0) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqt5printsupport5t64 (>= 5.1.0) but it is not installable
Depends: libqt5widgets5t64 (>= 5.11.0~rc1) but it is not installable
Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 14) but 12.2.0-14+deb12u1 is to be installed
Depends: librecad-data (= 2.2.0.2-3) but 2.2.0-1 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
bob@raspberrypi:~/Downloads$
I tried apt-removing the RasPiOS version of librecad, but the error
above recurred, so I guess it's not a package conflict.
Thanks for writing, any further counsel appreciated!
bob prohaska
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 23:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n9tuqmFud1U9@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #38047 |
On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 21:20:00 -0000 (UTC), bp wrote: > I tried apt-removing the RasPiOS version of librecad, but the error > above recurred, so I guess it's not a package conflict. I was concerned when I saw 'sid' in the URL. Sid is Debian's bleeding edge, often broken code but I thought it might be a usable deb.
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-23 08:29 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <wwvfr2dhfyi.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
| In reply to | #38047 |
It sounds like the version isn’t really the issue, but: bp@www.zefox.net writes: > rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 19:33:01 -0000 (UTC), bp wrote: >>> How would I go about using that repository? I've always used sudo apt >>> install (packagename)..... >> >> The easiest way is to go to the site, download the deb, and then 'sudo apt >> install librecad_2.2.0.2-3_arm64.deb' This is bad advice. [...] > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > librecad : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.38) but 2.36-9+rpt2+deb12u14 is to be installed You are trying to install the sid version of librecad on bookworm (=oldstable). Mixing distributions like only works in particular niches and GUI tools are often not in those niches. sid and trixie both have 2.2.0.2 so upgrading to trixie (=stable) would be the answer if you wanted the most recent available packaged version. -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 22:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <111cajd$1rbm8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38044 |
On 22/06/2026 20:33, bp@www.zefox.net wrote: > Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> wrote: >> On 22/06/2026 17:36, bp@www.zefox.net wrote: >> >> Current version seems to be: librecad_2.2.0.2-3_arm64.deb >> See https://packages.debian.org/sid/arm64/librecad/download >> >> Rpi OS apt is often well out of date > > How would I go about using that repository? I've always used > sudo apt install (packagename)..... > > Thanks for posting! > > bob prohaska > Look at the notes on the page that I listed. Fir mainstream products apt is good, but for many products it just installs ancient versions. You could compile from source, but there are many packages that ease the way through -- Chris
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| From | 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 20:11 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <0oScnc3NuoJR56T3nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #38040 |
W dniu 22.06.2026 o 18:36, bp@www.zefox.net pisze: > but I'm starting to wonder > if something more (maybe an outdated APT repository) is part > of my difficulties. How about updating to a recent AppImage? <https://github.com/LibreCAD/LibreCAD/releases> There is a LibreCAD-v2.2.1.5-aarch64.AppImage available. The online manual is probably more closely aligned with this version as well. -- Z totaliztycznym salutem! Jacek Marcin Jaworski, Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, Polska 🇵🇱, UE 🇪🇺; tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-17:25; <jmj@energokod.gda.pl>, gpg: 4A541AA7A6E872318B85D7F6A651CC39244B0BFA; Domowa s. WWW: <https://energokod.gda.pl>; Mini Netykieta: <https://energokod.gda.pl/MiniNetykieta.html>; Mailowa Samoobrona: <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/pl>. UWAGA: NIE ZACIĄGAJ "UKRYTEGO DŁUGU"! PŁAĆ ZA PROG. FOSS I INFO. INTERNETOWE! CZYTAJ DARMOWY: "17. Raport Totaliztyczny - Patroni Kontra Bankierzy": <https://energokod.gda.pl/raporty-totaliztyczne/17.%20Patroni%20Kontra%20Bankierzy.pdf>
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| From | Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 23:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <87F*PWMJA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #38042 |
🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> wrote: > W dniu 22.06.2026 o 18:36, bp@www.zefox.net pisze: > > but I'm starting to wonder > > if something more (maybe an outdated APT repository) is part > > of my difficulties. > > How about updating to a recent AppImage? > > <https://github.com/LibreCAD/LibreCAD/releases> > > There is a LibreCAD-v2.2.1.5-aarch64.AppImage available. The online > manual is probably more closely aligned with this version as well. That's probably the easiest way to get a newer version. There is also a Flatpak of 2.2.1.5: https://flathub.org/en-GB/apps/org.librecad.librecad Installation should be something like: sudo apt install flatpak sudo flatpak install flathub org.librecad.librecad flatpak run org.librecad.librecad (you have to launch apps from the GUI or via 'flatpak run <full package name>' at the command line; they don't get installed in your command line path) Theo
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| From | bp@www.zefox.net |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 23:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <111ci1t$1t54i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38042 |
🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> wrote: > W dniu 22.06.2026 o 18:36, bp@www.zefox.net pisze: >> but I'm starting to wonder >> if something more (maybe an outdated APT repository) is part >> of my difficulties. > > How about updating to a recent AppImage? > > <https://github.com/LibreCAD/LibreCAD/releases> > > There is a LibreCAD-v2.2.1.5-aarch64.AppImage available. The online > manual is probably more closely aligned with this version as well. > It's downloading now, how do I unpack it? I'm totally clueless. Thanks for writing! bob prohaska
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| From | The Nomad <nomad@the.desert.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-23 07:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pan$bd7a5$7b7b90eb$eef6e71d$d6d32617@the.desert.com> |
| In reply to | #38053 |
On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 23:55:41 -0000 (UTC), bp@www.zefox.net wrote: > 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> wrote: >> W dniu 22.06.2026 o 18:36, bp@www.zefox.net pisze: >>> but I'm starting to wonder >>> if something more (maybe an outdated APT repository) is part of my >>> difficulties. >> >> How about updating to a recent AppImage? >> >> <https://github.com/LibreCAD/LibreCAD/releases> >> >> There is a LibreCAD-v2.2.1.5-aarch64.AppImage available. The online >> manual is probably more closely aligned with this version as well. >> > It's downloading now, how do I unpack it? > I'm totally clueless. > > Thanks for writing! > > bob prohaska Just make the file executable (chmod +x "File_Name") Then either click it (once or twice depending on how your desktop is setup) or just run that filename from the CLI bp@home$~/home/bp foobar.appimage HTH Avpx -- "Remember - that which does not kill us can only make us stronger." - "And that which *does* kill us leaves us *dead*!" (Carpe Jugulum) Tue 11984 Sep 08:00:01 BST 1993 08:00:01 up 19:04, 1 user, load average: 0.95, 1.66, 1.06
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| From | bp@www.zefox.net |
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| Date | 2026-06-23 11:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <111dseh$27pqh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38058 |
The Nomad <nomad@the.desert.invalid> wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 23:55:41 -0000 (UTC), bp@www.zefox.net wrote: > >> 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> wrote: >>> W dniu 22.06.2026 o 18:36, bp@www.zefox.net pisze: >>>> but I'm starting to wonder >>>> if something more (maybe an outdated APT repository) is part of my >>>> difficulties. >>> >>> How about updating to a recent AppImage? >>> >>> <https://github.com/LibreCAD/LibreCAD/releases> >>> >>> There is a LibreCAD-v2.2.1.5-aarch64.AppImage available. The online >>> manual is probably more closely aligned with this version as well. >>> >> It's downloading now, how do I unpack it? >> I'm totally clueless. >> >> Thanks for writing! >> >> bob prohaska > > Just make the file executable (chmod +x "File_Name") > > Then either click it (once or twice depending on how your desktop is > setup) or just run that filename from the CLI > > bp@home$~/home/bp foobar.appimage > > HTH It does indeed help. Thank you very much! bob prohaska > > > >
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| From | bp@www.zefox.net |
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| Date | 2026-06-24 21:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <111hj0m$3b738$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38063 |
bp@www.zefox.net wrote: > The Nomad <nomad@the.desert.invalid> wrote: >> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 23:55:41 -0000 (UTC), bp@www.zefox.net wrote: >> >>> 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> wrote: >>>> W dniu 22.06.2026 o 18:36, bp@www.zefox.net pisze: >>>>> but I'm starting to wonder >>>>> if something more (maybe an outdated APT repository) is part of my >>>>> difficulties. >>>> >>>> How about updating to a recent AppImage? >>>> >>>> <https://github.com/LibreCAD/LibreCAD/releases> >>>> >>>> There is a LibreCAD-v2.2.1.5-aarch64.AppImage available. The online >>>> manual is probably more closely aligned with this version as well. >>>> >>> It's downloading now, how do I unpack it? >>> I'm totally clueless. >>> >>> Thanks for writing! >>> >>> bob prohaska >> >> Just make the file executable (chmod +x "File_Name") >> >> Then either click it (once or twice depending on how your desktop is >> setup) or just run that filename from the CLI >> >> bp@home$~/home/bp foobar.appimage >> >> HTH > > It does indeed help. Thank you very much! > > bob prohaska Alas, some but not enough. Librecad crashes on startup, ending with [Qt FATAL] Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (5.15.8) with this library (5.15.3) Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (5.15.8) with this library (5.15.3) Is it possible to update Qt? The OS was last updated yesterday, so it's up to date by Raspbian standards.... Thanks for reading! bob prohaska >> >> >> >>
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| From | Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 20:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <87F*YkMJA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #38040 |
bp@www.zefox.net wrote: > I'm having great difficulty making librecad work by tring to > follow the instructions, both in the librecad manual and in > online tutorials. If there's a good written (not video) tutorial > it might help quite a bit, but I haven't found one. What's not working? > Part of my ineptitude is surely caused by first learning CAD > on a Macintosh (Ashlar Graphite), but I'm starting to wonder > if something more (maybe an outdated APT repository) is part > of my difficulties. I find LibreCAD a bit awkward. I think it's designed as a clone of AutoCAD, which means it inherits the AutoCAD way of doing things - that's often backwards to how other 'design' packages do it. For example, in older versions you couldn't just draw a rectangle with height and width, you had to draw 4 lines and then set constraints on them (the four corners are right angles, the left side is of length H and the bottom side is of length W) That's how AutoCAD works, and it makes sense when you're doing parametric CAD. But it's just annoying if you just want to draw some boxes to eg work out the best positions of furniture in your room, or whatever it might be. I can't speak for LibreCAD (which is 2D CAD) but FreeCAD takes the same approach for 3D: you start with 2D sketches which have lines, arcs and constraints and then you build 3D shapes from the sketches. MangoJelly has (a lot of) good tutorials for FreeCAD: https://www.youtube.com/@MangoJellySolutions/playlists - I don't think he covers LibreCAD but the generic 'CAD thinking' might be relevant. Any time he's talking about a sketch it's the same ideas as 2D CAD. I had a brief search for LibreCAD tutorials on Youtube and there's no-one I recognise, so I can't vouch for any of reliable quality. Theo
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| From | bp@www.zefox.net |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 20:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <111c62t$1q2dl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38043 |
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: > bp@www.zefox.net wrote: >> I'm having great difficulty making librecad work by tring to >> follow the instructions, both in the librecad manual and in >> online tutorials. If there's a good written (not video) tutorial >> it might help quite a bit, but I haven't found one. > > What's not working? Seemingly, everything 8-) That points strongly to me being the problem, and it's at least partly true. I just managed to draw, save and open a rectagle using a tutorial at https://docs.librecad.org/en/latest/guides/dwg-edit.html but all layers display all the time, the response to clicks seemed one click late and the resulting line is dash-dot, not continuous. > >> Part of my ineptitude is surely caused by first learning CAD >> on a Macintosh (Ashlar Graphite), but I'm starting to wonder >> if something more (maybe an outdated APT repository) is part >> of my difficulties. > > I find LibreCAD a bit awkward. I think it's designed as a clone of AutoCAD, > which means it inherits the AutoCAD way of doing things - that's often > backwards to how other 'design' packages do it. > I find LibreCAD _extremely_ awkward after learning to use Ashlar Graphite, it really spoiled me 8-) but I can't justify the license cost now. . > For example, in older versions you couldn't just draw a rectangle with > height and width, you had to draw 4 lines and then set constraints on them > (the four corners are right angles, the left side is of length H and the > bottom side is of length W) > > That's how AutoCAD works, and it makes sense when you're doing parametric > CAD. But it's just annoying if you just want to draw some boxes to eg work > out the best positions of furniture in your room, or whatever it might be. That's the sort of problem I'm interested in, nothing sophisticated. > I can't speak for LibreCAD (which is 2D CAD) but FreeCAD takes the same > approach for 3D: you start with 2D sketches which have lines, arcs and > constraints and then you build 3D shapes from the sketches. MangoJelly has > (a lot of) good tutorials for FreeCAD: > > https://www.youtube.com/@MangoJellySolutions/playlists > > - I don't think he covers LibreCAD but the generic 'CAD thinking' might be > relevant. Any time he's talking about a sketch it's the same ideas as 2D > CAD. > It seems helpful, I'll watch it carefully > I had a brief search for LibreCAD tutorials on Youtube and there's no-one I > recognise, so I can't vouch for any of reliable quality. > I found quite a few, but they're basically unfollowable; cursors can't be seen on-screen and the narration runs away from me. Thanks for writing! bob prohaska
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| From | Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 22:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <-7F*pVMJA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #38046 |
bp@www.zefox.net wrote: > Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: > > bp@www.zefox.net wrote: > >> I'm having great difficulty making librecad work by tring to > >> follow the instructions, both in the librecad manual and in > >> online tutorials. If there's a good written (not video) tutorial > >> it might help quite a bit, but I haven't found one. > > > > What's not working? > > Seemingly, everything 8-) > > That points strongly to me being the problem, and it's at > least partly true. I just managed to draw, save and open a > rectagle using a tutorial at > https://docs.librecad.org/en/latest/guides/dwg-edit.html > but all layers display all the time, the response to clicks > seemed one click late and the resulting line is dash-dot, > not continuous. Ah, ok. Not sure what's up there. I wonder if it's something to do with the graphics setup not being right? eg Wayland issues? > > I find LibreCAD a bit awkward. I think it's designed as a clone of AutoCAD, > > which means it inherits the AutoCAD way of doing things - that's often > > backwards to how other 'design' packages do it. > > > I find LibreCAD _extremely_ awkward after learning to use Ashlar Graphite, > it really spoiled me 8-) but I can't justify the license cost now. TBH when I just want 'scale drawing' rather than parametric CAD, I use Inkscape. That's been good enough for accurately drawing things to be laser cut, and it works much more like a traditional vector drawing package (I used to use Acorn's !Draw, a long time ago). You can export DXF if you really need AutoCAD compatibility, eg for the laser cutter. I only really use parametric when 3D printing, and often I find I'm fighting FreeCAD more than drawing so often end up using OpenSCAD instead (which is more like 'writing code' than 'drawing') (FreeCAD has got a lot better recently, but typically the problem is I know how to express what I want parametrically, but run into problems with constraint conflicts) Another parametric CAD program I found easier to use is SolveSpace - I threw in a bunch of room dimensions and it produced a house plan, working out how thick all the walls were and how they fitted together. Again it's not really for drawing, it's useful specifically because it's trying to solve your pile of constraints. I only used it for 2D... perhaps I should look again at its 3D features. Theo
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 22:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <111ce4b$1rqcg$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38049 |
On 22 Jun 2026 22:55:11 +0100 (BST), Theo wrote: > TBH when I just want 'scale drawing' rather than parametric CAD, I > use Inkscape. I was wondering when someone was going to mention that ;). Add my vote to the suggestion. <https://inkscape.org/> > That's been good enough for accurately drawing things to be laser > cut, and it works much more like a traditional vector drawing > package ... Which is exactly what it is. But more than that, it lets you type in exact numbers for measurements of things, rather than having to go by eye. And of course you have the align/distribute tools, to get things nicely arranged. If you need to do constraint solving to place/shape things, you could write Python code to do it. It’s better than Autolisp, anyway ... > Another parametric CAD program I found easier to use is SolveSpace ... That’s open-source, too <https://solvespace.com/>.
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| From | bp@www.zefox.net |
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| Date | 2026-06-23 00:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <111cjfr$1t54i$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38049 |
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: > bp@www.zefox.net wrote: >> Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: >> > bp@www.zefox.net wrote: >> >> I'm having great difficulty making librecad work by tring to >> >> follow the instructions, both in the librecad manual and in >> >> online tutorials. If there's a good written (not video) tutorial >> >> it might help quite a bit, but I haven't found one. >> > >> > What's not working? >> >> Seemingly, everything 8-) >> >> That points strongly to me being the problem, and it's at >> least partly true. I just managed to draw, save and open a >> rectagle using a tutorial at >> https://docs.librecad.org/en/latest/guides/dwg-edit.html >> but all layers display all the time, the response to clicks >> seemed one click late and the resulting line is dash-dot, >> not continuous. > > Ah, ok. Not sure what's up there. I wonder if it's something to do with > the graphics setup not being right? eg Wayland issues? > That's something I didn't consider, maybe I'll try reverting to Xorg at some point. I've also noticed that the snap function seems to silently stop working for a time, then resume. >> > I find LibreCAD a bit awkward. I think it's designed as a clone of AutoCAD, >> > which means it inherits the AutoCAD way of doing things - that's often >> > backwards to how other 'design' packages do it. >> > >> I find LibreCAD _extremely_ awkward after learning to use Ashlar Graphite, >> it really spoiled me 8-) but I can't justify the license cost now. > > TBH when I just want 'scale drawing' rather than parametric CAD, I use > Inkscape. That's been good enough for accurately drawing things to be laser > cut, and it works much more like a traditional vector drawing package (I > used to use Acorn's !Draw, a long time ago). You can export DXF if you > really need AutoCAD compatibility, eg for the laser cutter. > I messed with Inkscape a couple years ago and got it to work after a fashion. The other day I opened it up again and my brain went blank as the page. No memory of how I accomplished the little bit I did, IIRC a floorplan. A crude one, at that. Still, Inkscape didn't give me the impression the software was the problem. Clearly the fumbles were mine. With Librecad I'm not sure. > I only really use parametric when 3D printing, and often I find I'm fighting > FreeCAD more than drawing so often end up using OpenSCAD instead (which is > more like 'writing code' than 'drawing') > > (FreeCAD has got a lot better recently, but typically the problem is I know > how to express what I want parametrically, but run into problems with > constraint conflicts) > > Another parametric CAD program I found easier to use is SolveSpace - I > threw in a bunch of room dimensions and it produced a house plan, working > out how thick all the walls were and how they fitted together. Again it's > not really for drawing, it's useful specifically because it's trying to > solve your pile of constraints. I only used it for 2D... perhaps I should > look again at its 3D features. All I really need is the ability to make simple drawing to scale so they can be checked for interference between objects. Thanks for writing! bob prohaska
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-23 03:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <111d073$204u5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #38054 |
On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 00:20:11 -0000 (UTC), bp wrote: > I messed with Inkscape a couple years ago and got it to work after a > fashion. The other day I opened it up again and my brain went blank > as the page. The default initial tool is the selection too. But of course you have nothing to select, to begin with. There are tools for creating shapes and drawing lines. Choose one, and click/drag away.
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