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is it posibe to disable boo tEEPROm in PI4B

Started byJan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com>
First post2020-12-30 15:22 +0000
Last post2020-12-31 18:28 +0000
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  is it posibe to disable boo tEEPROm in PI4B Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-30 15:22 +0000
    Re: is it posibe to disable boo tEEPROm in PI4B A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2020-12-30 15:36 +0000
    Re: is it posibe to disable boo tEEPROm in PI4B ray carter <ray@zianet.com> - 2020-12-30 16:15 +0000
    Re: is it posibe to disable boo tEEPROm in PI4B Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2020-12-30 18:13 +0000
      Re: is it posibe to disable boo tEEPROm in PI4B Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-31 09:59 +0000
        Re: is it posibe to disable boo tEEPROm in PI4B Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2020-12-31 16:03 +0200
        Re: is it posibe to disable boo tEEPROm in PI4B A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2020-12-31 14:44 +0000
        Re: is it posibe to disable boo tEEPROm in PI4B Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2020-12-31 18:28 +0000

#25326 — is it posibe to disable boo tEEPROm in PI4B

FromJan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com>
Date2020-12-30 15:22 +0000
Subjectis it posibe to disable boo tEEPROm in PI4B
Message-ID<rsi604$1h8o$1@gioia.aioe.org>
Just bought a PI4B 8 GB
Unfortunately it does not run SDcard images from my older PI4,
boot process hangs with something like 'use more modern software'.
It runs OK with 2020-12-02-raspios-buster-armhf-full.zip (just downloaded from raspberry org)

Web search talks about these 4B having a boot EEPROM..
This is a problem as there is a year or more of work in the current images.

Whats up?

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#25327

FromA. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid>
Date2020-12-30 15:36 +0000
Message-ID<5fec9e66$0$279$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#25326
Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Web search talks about these 4B having a boot EEPROM..
> This is a problem as there is a year or more of work in the current images.
> 
> Whats up?

All info here, or linked from there:
https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/bootflow_2711.md

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#25328

Fromray carter <ray@zianet.com>
Date2020-12-30 16:15 +0000
Message-ID<i53ndaFn55mU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#25326
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 15:22:02 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

> Just bought a PI4B 8 GB Unfortunately it does not run SDcard images from
> my older PI4,
> boot process hangs with something like 'use more modern software'.
> It runs OK with 2020-12-02-raspios-buster-armhf-full.zip (just
> downloaded from raspberry org)
> 
> Web search talks about these 4B having a boot EEPROM..
> This is a problem as there is a year or more of work in the current
> images.
> 
> Whats up?

What would be wrong with just copying your data to a new card?

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#25333

FromJim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk>
Date2020-12-30 18:13 +0000
Message-ID<slrnrupgq7.6qt.jj@iridium.wf32df>
In reply to#25326
On 2020-12-30, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Just bought a PI4B 8 GB
> Unfortunately it does not run SDcard images from my older PI4,
> boot process hangs with something like 'use more modern software'.
> It runs OK with 2020-12-02-raspios-buster-armhf-full.zip (just downloaded from raspberry org)
>
> Web search talks about these 4B having a boot EEPROM..
> This is a problem as there is a year or more of work in the current images.
>
> Whats up?

Put the sdcard back into the older pi4 and run update on the operating system.

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

That should update the boot loader stuff and it should boot in the 8Gb Pi4

I've done that before when upgrading Pi hardware.

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#25351

FromJan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com>
Date2020-12-31 09:59 +0000
Message-ID<rsk7fq$1e4o$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#25333
On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:13:27 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jim Jackson
<jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrnrupgq7.6qt.jj@iridium.wf32df>:

>On 2020-12-30, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Just bought a PI4B 8 GB
>> Unfortunately it does not run SDcard images from my older PI4,
>> boot process hangs with something like 'use more modern software'.
>> It runs OK with 2020-12-02-raspios-buster-armhf-full.zip (just downloaded from raspberry org)
>>
>> Web search talks about these 4B having a boot EEPROM..
>> This is a problem as there is a year or more of work in the current images.
>>
>> Whats up?
>
>Put the sdcard back into the older pi4 and run update on the operating system.
>
>apt-get update
>apt-get upgrade
>
>That should update the boot loader stuff and it should boot in the 8Gb Pi4
>
>I've done that before when upgrading Pi hardware.

Thank you very much, that worked!
It added 1.6 GB software / updates too, just enough left of my 10 GB G4 on the last
day of the month...


 

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#25353

FromTauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid>
Date2020-12-31 16:03 +0200
Message-ID<rsklnk$hq9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#25351
On 31.12.20 11.59, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:13:27 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jim Jackson
> <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrnrupgq7.6qt.jj@iridium.wf32df>:
> 
>> On 2020-12-30, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Just bought a PI4B 8 GB
>>> Unfortunately it does not run SDcard images from my older PI4,
>>> boot process hangs with something like 'use more modern software'.
>>> It runs OK with 2020-12-02-raspios-buster-armhf-full.zip (just downloaded from raspberry org)
>>>
>>> Web search talks about these 4B having a boot EEPROM..
>>> This is a problem as there is a year or more of work in the current images.
>>>
>>> Whats up?
>>
>> Put the sdcard back into the older pi4 and run update on the operating system.
>>
>> apt-get update
>> apt-get upgrade
>>
>> That should update the boot loader stuff and it should boot in the 8Gb Pi4
>>
>> I've done that before when upgrading Pi hardware.
> 
> Thank you very much, that worked!
> It added 1.6 GB software / updates too, just enough left of my 10 GB G4 on the last
> day of the month...

After the upgrade write:

   sudo apt-get autoremove -y
   sudo apt-get autoclean

so you will get rid of obsolete packages.

-- 

-TV

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#25354

FromA. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid>
Date2020-12-31 14:44 +0000
Message-ID<5fede3be$0$293$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#25351
Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:13:27 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jim Jackson
> <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrnrupgq7.6qt.jj@iridium.wf32df>:
>> apt-get update
>> apt-get upgrade
> 
> Thank you very much, that worked!

If you hadn't updated in such a long(?) time, you should also get other
benefits, like the Pi 4 staying cooler.

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#25355

FromJim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk>
Date2020-12-31 18:28 +0000
Message-ID<slrnrus62s.dqg.jj@iridium.wf32df>
In reply to#25351
On 2020-12-31, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:13:27 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jim Jackson
><jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrnrupgq7.6qt.jj@iridium.wf32df>:
>
>>On 2020-12-30, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Just bought a PI4B 8 GB
>>> Unfortunately it does not run SDcard images from my older PI4,
>>> boot process hangs with something like 'use more modern software'.
>>> It runs OK with 2020-12-02-raspios-buster-armhf-full.zip (just downloaded from raspberry org)
>>>
>>> Web search talks about these 4B having a boot EEPROM..
>>> This is a problem as there is a year or more of work in the current images.
>>>
>>> Whats up?
>>
>>Put the sdcard back into the older pi4 and run update on the operating system.
>>
>>apt-get update
>>apt-get upgrade
>>
>>That should update the boot loader stuff and it should boot in the 8Gb Pi4
>>
>>I've done that before when upgrading Pi hardware.
>
> Thank you very much, that worked!

Glad to have helped.

> It added 1.6 GB software / updates too, just enough left of my 10 GB G4 on the last
> day of the month...

Ooooo... glad you were lucky there.

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