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  Text-only Raspbian? Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-07-10 22:08 +0000
    Re: Text-only Raspbian? fruit <fruit@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-07-11 07:43 +0100
      Re: Text-only Raspbian? Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-07-11 07:24 +0000
    Re: Text-only Raspbian? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-07-11 09:40 +0000
      Re: Text-only Raspbian? Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2015-07-13 21:24 +0100
        Re: Text-only Raspbian? Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2015-07-15 10:13 +0100
    Re: Text-only Raspbian? Chris Elvidge <chris@raspberrypi.mshome.net> - 2015-07-11 11:27 +0100

#9080 — Text-only Raspbian?

In 2013 I downloaded and installed Raspbian on a number of Raspberries
and I think at that time there was the option of having a Text-only
version.  Those images were about 1.6GB in size and could easily run
on a 2GB card.

Now, when downloading Raspbian it is a 3.2GB image that includes X,
and I see no Text-only version anymore.

Is that still available somewhere or is there a script that can create
it?  (e.g. by stripping packages from a full version)

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#9085

Rob wrote:

> In 2013 I downloaded and installed Raspbian on a number of Raspberries
> and I think at that time there was the option of having a Text-only
> version.  Those images were about 1.6GB in size and could easily run
> on a 2GB card.
> 
> Now, when downloading Raspbian it is a 3.2GB image that includes X,
> and I see no Text-only version anymore.
> 
> Is that still available somewhere or is there a script that can create
> it?  (e.g. by stripping packages from a full version)

Would that be this one?

https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/

fruit

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#9086

fruit <fruit@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>
>> In 2013 I downloaded and installed Raspbian on a number of Raspberries
>> and I think at that time there was the option of having a Text-only
>> version.  Those images were about 1.6GB in size and could easily run
>> on a 2GB card.
>> 
>> Now, when downloading Raspbian it is a 3.2GB image that includes X,
>> and I see no Text-only version anymore.
>> 
>> Is that still available somewhere or is there a script that can create
>> it?  (e.g. by stripping packages from a full version)
>
> Would that be this one?
>
> https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/
>
> fruit

Ok, it is not the one I used before (that was on the main website), but
reading the description it looks promising.  Thanks.

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#9087

On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 05:15:48 +0000, Rob wrote:

> Fortunately I still have that 2013 image and it can just be
> update/upgraded to the latest state.  I just wonder why options like
> this are dropped (and if they really are, maybe I am just not looking in
> the right places).
>
The kids of today hate command lines and won't learn to use them?

Seriously, that wouldn't surprise me: "I won't use Linux because you need 
to use command lines all the time" is still a common refrain, usually 
heard when somebody asks how to make some system change and is told to 
use a command line or two. This is apparently not considered a worthwhile 
counterbalance to the M$ truth that you often can't do the equivalent 
change in Windows because the config file is encrypted to stop you making 
that change.


-- 
martin@   | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org       |

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#9109

On 2015-07-11, Martin Gregorie wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 05:15:48 +0000, Rob wrote:
>
>> Fortunately I still have that 2013 image and it can just be
>> update/upgraded to the latest state.  I just wonder why options like
>> this are dropped (and if they really are, maybe I am just not looking in
>> the right places).
>>
> The kids of today hate command lines and won't learn to use them?
>
> Seriously, that wouldn't surprise me: "I won't use Linux because you need 
> to use command lines all the time" is still a common refrain, usually 
> heard when somebody asks how to make some system change and is told to 
> use a command line or two. This is apparently not considered a worthwhile 
> counterbalance to the M$ truth that you often can't do the equivalent 
> change in Windows because the config file is encrypted to stop you making 
> that change.

There is hope for some of the next generation.  When Minecraft locks
up, my son knows to open an xterm & type `killall java`.  

I have a spare Pi for a surprise rainy-day project for him: setting up
a totally headless Minecraft server (dd to put the image on the SD
card, but then plugging it into the LAN & from there on out using ssh,
screen, & such).

(The 'home server' Pi that I'm using for the USENET, among other
things, has never been contaminated by contact with a monitor,
keyboard, or mouse.)


-- 
"Mandrake, have you never wondered why I drink only distilled water,
or rain water, and only pure grain alcohol?"        [Dr Strangelove]

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#9122

On 2015-07-14, colonel_hack@yahoo.com wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Adam Funk wrote:
>>
>> There is hope for some of the next generation.  When Minecraft locks
>> up, my son knows to open an xterm & type `killall java`.
> My 3 year old grand-nephew opens an xterm to type sl (An ascii art steam 
> locomotive cross the scree, a joke program for when you mistype ``ls''.)

Ha, I hadn't seen that one till now.  Thanks.

> I've seen it claimed that kindergarden kids were taught logo. We'll see.

Not a bad idea.

-- 
There's nothing in Scripture that forbids letting our lawn
go wild.                              --- Garrison Keillor

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#9088

On 10/07/2015 23:08, Rob wrote:
> In 2013 I downloaded and installed Raspbian on a number of Raspberries
> and I think at that time there was the option of having a Text-only
> version.  Those images were about 1.6GB in size and could easily run
> on a 2GB card.
>
> Now, when downloading Raspbian it is a 3.2GB image that includes X,
> and I see no Text-only version anymore.
>
> Is that still available somewhere or is there a script that can create
> it?  (e.g. by stripping packages from a full version)
>
Stefan Seelman has instructions to remove X : 
http://www.stefan-seelmann.de/wiki/rasperrypi-homeserver

Or see stackexchange: 
http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/5258/how-can-i-remove-the-gui-from-raspbian-debian


-- 

Chris Elvidge, England

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