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| Started by | Wayne Chirnside <frank@fuax.com> |
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| First post | 2015-10-25 22:24 +0000 |
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Flash Wayne Chirnside <frank@fuax.com> - 2015-10-25 22:24 +0000
Re: Flash Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2015-10-25 23:00 +0000
Re: Flash Roger Bell_West <roger+csrp201510@nospam.firedrake.org> - 2015-10-25 23:04 +0000
Re: Flash Wayne Chirnside <frank@fuax.com> - 2015-10-25 23:42 +0000
Re: Flash rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 22:19 -0400
Re: Flash Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-10-28 11:55 +0000
Re: Flash The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-10-28 12:40 +0000
Re: Flash rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 12:26 -0400
Re: Flash The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-10-28 22:02 +0000
Re: Flash Roger Bell_West <roger+csrp201510@nospam.firedrake.org> - 2015-10-29 00:43 +0000
Re: Flash The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-10-29 08:40 +0000
Re: Flash rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 04:57 -0400
Re: Flash The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-10-29 10:18 +0000
Re: Flash rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 13:01 -0400
Re: Flash Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> - 2015-10-29 18:29 +0000
Re: Flash Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2015-10-30 02:58 +0000
Re: Flash Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> - 2015-10-30 08:42 +0000
Re: Flash fruit <fruit@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-10-30 09:39 +0000
Re: Flash UoScAr <oscar.gooooooooooo@gooooooooogle.it> - 2015-10-30 20:00 +0800
Re: Flash colonel_hack@yahoo.com - 2015-10-30 09:34 -0700
Re: Flash rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 12:26 -0400
Re: Flash Mark Justice <mark@faux.com> - 2015-10-28 20:41 +0000
Re: Flash Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-10-29 01:02 +0000
Re: Flash The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-10-29 08:43 +0000
Re: Flash Dom <domafp@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-10-29 12:41 +0000
Re: Flash Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-10-29 12:45 +0000
Re: Flash Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-10-29 13:26 +0000
Re: Flash Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-10-29 16:12 +0000
Re: Flash Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-10-29 16:54 +0000
Re: Flash Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-10-29 17:01 +0000
Re: Flash The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-10-29 12:45 +0000
Re: Flash Dom <domafp@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-10-29 13:46 +0000
Re: Flash fruit <fruit@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-10-29 14:35 +0000
Re: Flash Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2015-10-29 13:47 +0000
Re: Flash The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-10-29 13:50 +0000
Re: Flash fruit <fruit@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-10-29 14:32 +0000
Re: Flash - Warning. Even more off topic! Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2015-10-29 15:55 +0000
Re: Flash - Warning. Even more off topic! "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-10-31 13:08 +0000
Re: Flash alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2015-10-29 15:25 +0000
Re: Flash rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 13:18 -0400
Re: Flash Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-10-29 15:26 +0000
Re: Flash rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 13:06 -0400
Re: Flash rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 05:00 -0400
Re: Flash The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-10-29 10:21 +0000
Re: Flash Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-29 19:57 -0400
Re: Flash Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2015-10-30 07:10 +0000
Re: Flash Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-29 19:47 -0400
Re: Flash Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-10-30 12:13 +0000
Re: Flash Wayne Chirnside <frank@fuax.com> - 2015-10-29 17:20 +0000
Re: Flash Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-29 19:50 +0100
Re: Flash druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-10-29 23:42 +0000
Re: Flash Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-30 10:12 +0000
Re: Flash Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2015-10-31 00:33 +0000
Re: Flash Dr J R Stockton <reply1500@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-10-30 22:45 +0000
Re: Flash "M.O.B. i L." <mobil@orbin.se> - 2015-10-26 19:35 +0100
Re: Flash Wayne Chirnside <frank@fuax.com> - 2015-10-27 23:20 +0000
Re: Flash druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-10-28 01:56 +0000
Re: Flash rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 22:20 -0400
Re: Flash Chris <c@b.a> - 2015-10-28 13:52 +1100
Re: Flash Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-10-28 05:01 +0000
Re: Flash Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2015-10-28 09:26 +0000
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| From | Wayne Chirnside <frank@fuax.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 22:24 +0000 |
| Subject | Flash |
| Message-ID | <bEcXx.4$Ra7.2@fx05.iad> |
Newbie to Raspberry but not Linux. Does Raspberry Pi have a working Flash or is that too processor intensive for a RPi?
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| From | Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 23:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n0jmu1$k33$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #9840 |
On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 22:24:07 +0000, Wayne Chirnside wrote: > Newbie to Raspberry but not Linux. > Does Raspberry Pi have a working Flash or is that too processor > intensive for a RPi? If you mean Adobe Flash, not available for ARM, apparently: <https:// www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/tech-specs.html>
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| From | Roger Bell_West <roger+csrp201510@nospam.firedrake.org> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 23:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20151025230318.630275029529916@firedrake.org> |
| In reply to | #9841 |
On 2015-10-25, Mel Wilson wrote: >On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 22:24:07 +0000, Wayne Chirnside wrote: >> Newbie to Raspberry but not Linux. >> Does Raspberry Pi have a working Flash or is that too processor >> intensive for a RPi? >If you mean Adobe Flash, not available for ARM, apparently: <https:// >www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/tech-specs.html> But considering the security situation, you're probably better off without it. (I belive the Pi browsers will handle HTML5, which gives you your videos and such without needing Flash.)
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| From | Wayne Chirnside <frank@fuax.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 23:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hNdXx.4$tl.0@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #9842 |
On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 23:04:07 +0000, Roger Bell_West wrote: > On 2015-10-25, Mel Wilson wrote: >>On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 22:24:07 +0000, Wayne Chirnside wrote: >>> Newbie to Raspberry but not Linux. >>> Does Raspberry Pi have a working Flash or is that too processor >>> intensive for a RPi? >>If you mean Adobe Flash, not available for ARM, apparently: <https:// >>www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/tech-specs.html> > > But considering the security situation, you're probably better off > without it. > > (I belive the Pi browsers will handle HTML5, which gives you your videos > and such without needing Flash.) Yeah I was aware of the disadvantages of Flash so it's all good. Next month I'll be blackout proof. Twelve volt monitor, RPi, 12 volt router and 12 Volt digital amplifier. All that remains is to wire up a wiring harness and order some stout batteries. Bit of an internet addict so if the lights go out in hurricane season I'm ready ;-)
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-27 22:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <n0pb6o$6c5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #9843 |
On 10/25/2015 7:42 PM, Wayne Chirnside wrote: > On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 23:04:07 +0000, Roger Bell_West wrote: > >> On 2015-10-25, Mel Wilson wrote: >>> On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 22:24:07 +0000, Wayne Chirnside wrote: >>>> Newbie to Raspberry but not Linux. >>>> Does Raspberry Pi have a working Flash or is that too processor >>>> intensive for a RPi? >>> If you mean Adobe Flash, not available for ARM, apparently: <https:// >>> www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/tech-specs.html> >> >> But considering the security situation, you're probably better off >> without it. >> >> (I belive the Pi browsers will handle HTML5, which gives you your videos >> and such without needing Flash.) > > Yeah I was aware of the disadvantages of Flash so it's all good. > > Next month I'll be blackout proof. > Twelve volt monitor, RPi, 12 volt router and 12 Volt digital amplifier. > > All that remains is to wire up a wiring harness and order some stout > batteries. > > Bit of an internet addict so if the lights go out in hurricane season I'm > ready ;-) But your ISP will be down. Last time we had a major storm around here both my ISP and my cell phone provider were down for a day or so. Funny, people around here seem to think this sort of thing is inevitable. It's not that hard to make wireless comms hard enough to take 60 MPH winds and ice. Well, maybe not the ice. Seems the antenna don't work so well with an inch of ice on them. -- Rick
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| From | Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-28 11:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n0qd3g$1e3$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #9861 |
On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:19:04 -0400, rickman wrote: > Last time we had a major storm around here both my ISP and my cell phone > provider were down for a day or so. > Out of curiosity, were landlines in your neighbourhood still working? I'd expect that they were down too if your local telco still puts the line up a pole but should have been just fine if it uses underground cabling. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org |
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-28 12:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n0qfof$t37$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #9866 |
On 28/10/15 11:55, Martin Gregorie wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:19:04 -0400, rickman wrote: > >> Last time we had a major storm around here both my ISP and my cell phone >> provider were down for a day or so. >> > Out of curiosity, were landlines in your neighbourhood still working? I'd > expect that they were down too if your local telco still puts the line up > a pole but should have been just fine if it uses underground cabling. > > POTS is veryt resilient to storms even up poles -- Global warming is the new Margaret Thatcher. There is no ill in the world it's not directly responsible for.
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-28 12:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <n0qss1$7ef$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #9867 |
On 10/28/2015 8:40 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 28/10/15 11:55, Martin Gregorie wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:19:04 -0400, rickman wrote: >> >>> Last time we had a major storm around here both my ISP and my cell phone >>> provider were down for a day or so. >>> >> Out of curiosity, were landlines in your neighbourhood still working? I'd >> expect that they were down too if your local telco still puts the line up >> a pole but should have been just fine if it uses underground cabling. >> >> > POTS is veryt resilient to storms even up poles Yeah, how does that work exactly? -- Rick
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-28 22:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n0rgm9$soi$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #9869 |
On 28/10/15 16:26, rickman wrote: > On 10/28/2015 8:40 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 28/10/15 11:55, Martin Gregorie wrote: >>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:19:04 -0400, rickman wrote: >>> >>>> Last time we had a major storm around here both my ISP and my cell >>>> phone >>>> provider were down for a day or so. >>>> >>> Out of curiosity, were landlines in your neighbourhood still working? >>> I'd >>> expect that they were down too if your local telco still puts the >>> line up >>> a pole but should have been just fine if it uses underground cabling. >>> >>> >> POTS is veryt resilient to storms even up poles > > Yeah, how does that work exactly? > Batteries and generatoirs in te exhanges -- Global warming is the new Margaret Thatcher. There is no ill in the world it's not directly responsible for.
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| From | Roger Bell_West <roger+csrp201510@nospam.firedrake.org> |
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| Date | 2015-10-29 00:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20151029004241.0457186532012237@firedrake.org> |
| In reply to | #9871 |
On 2015-10-28, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >On 28/10/15 16:26, rickman wrote: >> On 10/28/2015 8:40 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> POTS is veryt resilient to storms even up poles >> Yeah, how does that work exactly? >Batteries and generatoirs in te exhanges Up to a point. In the USA these days, many landlines will go down after ~24 hours without external power because the equivalent of the street cab has exhausted its backup battery.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-29 08:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n0sm2c$34t$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #9872 |
On 29/10/15 00:43, Roger Bell_West wrote: > On 2015-10-28, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 28/10/15 16:26, rickman wrote: >>> On 10/28/2015 8:40 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> POTS is veryt resilient to storms even up poles >>> Yeah, how does that work exactly? >> Batteries and generatoirs in te exhanges > > Up to a point. In the USA these days, many landlines will go down > after ~24 hours without external power because the equivalent of the > street cab has exhausted its backup battery. > When I put the Internet into Guernsey, they proudly showed me the acre and a half of underground diesel tanks and the 3 large diesel generating sets that would keep the phones going on the island for 10 days even if the main power station failed and they were utterly cut off from the mainland. That's APART from the batteries.. -- the biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with what it actually is.
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-29 04:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <n0smu6$m1$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #9871 |
On 10/28/2015 6:02 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 28/10/15 16:26, rickman wrote: >> On 10/28/2015 8:40 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 28/10/15 11:55, Martin Gregorie wrote: >>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:19:04 -0400, rickman wrote: >>>> >>>>> Last time we had a major storm around here both my ISP and my cell >>>>> phone >>>>> provider were down for a day or so. >>>>> >>>> Out of curiosity, were landlines in your neighbourhood still working? >>>> I'd >>>> expect that they were down too if your local telco still puts the >>>> line up >>>> a pole but should have been just fine if it uses underground cabling. >>>> >>>> >>> POTS is veryt resilient to storms even up poles >> >> Yeah, how does that work exactly? >> > Batteries and generatoirs in te exhanges So how does my phone reach those batteries in the exchanges when the wire has ripped in two from the poles lying on the ground? -- Rick
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-29 10:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n0srqb$dm3$2@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #9876 |
On 29/10/15 08:57, rickman wrote: > On 10/28/2015 6:02 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 28/10/15 16:26, rickman wrote: >>> On 10/28/2015 8:40 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 28/10/15 11:55, Martin Gregorie wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:19:04 -0400, rickman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Last time we had a major storm around here both my ISP and my cell >>>>>> phone >>>>>> provider were down for a day or so. >>>>>> >>>>> Out of curiosity, were landlines in your neighbourhood still working? >>>>> I'd >>>>> expect that they were down too if your local telco still puts the >>>>> line up >>>>> a pole but should have been just fine if it uses underground cabling. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> POTS is veryt resilient to storms even up poles >>> >>> Yeah, how does that work exactly? >>> >> Batteries and generatoirs in te exhanges > > So how does my phone reach those batteries in the exchanges when the > wire has ripped in two from the poles lying on the ground? > As I pointed out, even the pole lying on the ground doesn't rip the wires in two in many cases -- the biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with what it actually is.
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-29 13:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <n0tj9t$fop$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #9880 |
On 10/29/2015 6:18 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 29/10/15 08:57, rickman wrote: >> On 10/28/2015 6:02 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 28/10/15 16:26, rickman wrote: >>>> On 10/28/2015 8:40 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> On 28/10/15 11:55, Martin Gregorie wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:19:04 -0400, rickman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Last time we had a major storm around here both my ISP and my cell >>>>>>> phone >>>>>>> provider were down for a day or so. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Out of curiosity, were landlines in your neighbourhood still working? >>>>>> I'd >>>>>> expect that they were down too if your local telco still puts the >>>>>> line up >>>>>> a pole but should have been just fine if it uses underground cabling. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> POTS is veryt resilient to storms even up poles >>>> >>>> Yeah, how does that work exactly? >>>> >>> Batteries and generatoirs in te exhanges >> >> So how does my phone reach those batteries in the exchanges when the >> wire has ripped in two from the poles lying on the ground? >> > As I pointed out, even the pole lying on the ground doesn't rip the > wires in two in many cases Poles don't fall on the ground very often. The problem is when trees fall on the lines and tear them in two. I've also seen lines broken in two by ice storms which is what happened here a couple of years ago. -- Rick
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| From | Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> |
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| Date | 2015-10-29 18:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d9f6sqFge65U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #9901 |
On 29/10/15 17:01, rickman wrote: > > Poles don't fall on the ground very often. They do after they hit the vodka...
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| From | Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> |
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| Date | 2015-10-30 02:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnn35n5r.f9r.spamtrap42@one.localnet> |
| In reply to | #9905 |
On 2015-10-29, Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> wrote: > On 29/10/15 17:01, rickman wrote: >> >> Poles don't fall on the ground very often. > > They do after they hit the vodka... I work with some software developers who are from and live in Poland. I wonder whether they'll agree with that assertion. :-) -- Robert Riches spamtrap42@jacob21819.net (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)
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| From | Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> |
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| Date | 2015-10-30 08:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d9gorbFs2viU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #9914 |
On 30/10/15 02:58, Robert Riches wrote: > On 2015-10-29, Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> wrote: >> On 29/10/15 17:01, rickman wrote: >>> >>> Poles don't fall on the ground very often. >> >> They do after they hit the vodka... > > I work with some software developers who are from and live in > Poland. I wonder whether they'll agree with that assertion. :-) > And I spent 6 weeks working in Poland, in the 70's while communism wasstill in place. I speak from experience ;)
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| From | fruit <fruit@invalid.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-10-30 09:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <leqbgc-11v.ln1@cubie.ply.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #9920 |
Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 30/10/15 02:58, Robert Riches wrote: >> On 2015-10-29, Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> wrote: >>> On 29/10/15 17:01, rickman wrote: >>>> >>>> Poles don't fall on the ground very often. >>> >>> They do after they hit the vodka... >> >> I work with some software developers who are from and live in >> Poland. I wonder whether they'll agree with that assertion. :-) >> > And I spent 6 weeks working in Poland, in the 70's while communism > wasstill in place. I speak from experience ;) Working with them is /not/ the same as drinking with them! Brings back some great memories - not sure I could do it now though fruit
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| From | UoScAr <oscar.gooooooooooo@gooooooooogle.it> |
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| Date | 2015-10-30 20:00 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <stm63b156omslvouhjvp62ts3qmucsf56j@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #9923 |
il Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:39:01 +0000, fruit ha scritto che... >Working with them is /not/ the same as drinking with them! Best thing is to work with them *and* drink with them. not at the same time though. >Brings back some great memories - not sure I could do it now though :-) -- UoScAr, Imola, 40, (150)+146, 16
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| From | colonel_hack@yahoo.com |
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| Date | 2015-10-30 09:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.BSF.2.00.1510300931490.40177@bunrab.ronnet.moc> |
| In reply to | #9914 |
On Thu, 30 Oct 2015, Robert Riches wrote: > On 2015-10-29, Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> wrote: >> On 29/10/15 17:01, rickman wrote: >>> >>> Poles don't fall on the ground very often. >> >> They do after they hit the vodka... > > I work with some software developers who are from and live in > Poland. I wonder whether they'll agree with that assertion. :-) Just maintaining the ballmer peak https://xkcd.com/323/
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