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OT: For all the Window haters

Started bymm0fmf <none@mailinator.com>
First post2015-08-05 21:47 +0100
Last post2015-08-09 19:55 +0100
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  OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-05 21:47 +0100
    Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-06 00:58 +0100
      Re: OT: For all the Window haters Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2015-08-06 07:48 +0100
        Re: OT: For all the Window haters David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-06 08:43 +0100
          Re: OT: For all the Window haters Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2015-08-06 10:28 +0100
          Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-06 09:57 +0000
          Re: OT: For all the Window haters Brian Reay <no.sp@m.com> - 2015-08-06 10:58 +0100
            Re: OT: For all the Window haters Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2015-08-06 14:55 +0100
              Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-06 19:27 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-06 19:46 +0100
                  Re: OT: For all the Window haters Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2015-08-06 20:59 +0100
                  Re: OT: For all the Window haters Graham. <me@privicy.net> - 2015-08-07 00:22 +0100
                    Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-07 17:12 +0100
                      Re: OT: For all the Window haters notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2015-08-07 16:22 +0000
      Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-06 09:55 +0000
    Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-06 10:38 +0100
    Re: OT: For all the Window haters druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-08-07 08:18 +0100
    Re: OT: For all the Window haters Jim Diamond <Jim.Diamond@deletethis.AcadiaU.ca> - 2015-08-07 18:53 -0300
      Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-08 08:13 +0000
        Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-08 10:01 +0100
        Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-08 14:14 +0100
          Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-08 13:31 +0000
            Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-09 00:14 +0100
              Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-09 07:22 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-09 10:11 +0000
                  Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-09 11:28 +0000
                    Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-09 13:30 +0100
                      Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-09 16:00 +0100
                        Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-09 18:04 +0000
                          Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-09 20:11 +0100
                    Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-09 14:06 +0000
                    Re: OT: For all the Window haters druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-08-09 21:32 +0100
                      Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-09 21:16 +0000
                      Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-10 11:05 +0100
                        Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-10 13:51 +0100
                        Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-10 17:13 +0000
                          Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-11 11:40 +0100
                            Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> - 2015-08-11 13:07 +0200
                            Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-11 12:59 +0000
                              Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-15 09:44 +0100
                                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-15 10:07 +0000
                                  Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-15 16:13 +0100
                                    Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-15 19:54 +0000
                                      Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-15 23:59 +0100
                                        Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-16 00:13 +0000
                                          Re: OT: For all the Window haters Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 11:02 +0100
                                            Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-16 12:58 +0100
                                          Re: OT: For all the Window haters Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 10:51 -0400
                                            Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-16 19:05 +0000
                                          Re: OT: For all the Window haters druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-08-16 23:03 +0100
                                            Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-16 22:55 +0000
                                              Re: OT: For all the Window haters druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-08-17 21:46 +0100
                                      Re: OT: For all the Window haters Mike Fleming <{mike}@tauzero.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 14:26 +0100
                                        Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-16 17:02 +0100
                                      Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-16 17:02 +0100
                                        Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-16 19:18 +0000
                              Re: OT: For all the Window haters "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-18 19:39 +0100
                  Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-09 15:56 +0100
                    Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tonton Th <tTh@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-08-09 14:59 +0000
                    Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-09 16:55 +0000
                      Re: OT: For all the Window haters Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 16:38 -0400
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-09 19:55 +0100

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#9406

FromDennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-08-09 16:38 -0400
Message-ID<65efsadog9crebhiuu1v36221vun04cv5t@4ax.com>
In reply to#9399
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 16:55:44 +0000 (UTC), Martin Gregorie
<martin@address-in-sig.invalid> declaimed the following:

>Yes, of course I know that. Picked as an example of a hardware 
>enhancement that most people would recognise and that almost certainly 
>forced a driver modification when it was introduced.
>
	Based on the description (wikipedia) a driver modification would only
have been needed to properly make use of the FIFO buffer controls (and,
apparently, a bug in the original chips made the FIFO unusable, anyway).
Otherwise an 8250 driver should have seen no significant difference.

	Now... working with the late 70s era AY-5-1013 UART in my parts pile
would be another miracle (along with the 8 21L02 static memory, related UV
EPROM, 8228/8080A chips <G> -- my college digital electronics course never
did get to the point of assembling those chip evaluation kits into
something S-100 compatible).
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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#9402

Frommm0fmf <none@mailinator.com>
Date2015-08-09 19:55 +0100
Message-ID<WmNxx.124306$i22.74006@fx05.am4>
In reply to#9390
On 09/08/2015 08:22, Rob wrote:
> You are telling me that when I want to buy hardware that requires a
> driver, and that says "driver for Linux included", I need to track
> the kernel developers to be alerted that they again are breaking things?

Well if you want to be obtuse, go ahead. Saying "driver for Linux 
included" is as meaningless as saying "driver for Windows included".



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