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Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4

From Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4
Date 2021-01-25 18:31 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:23:29 +0000, Scott Alfter wrote:

> In article <rui9f6$j57$2@dont-email.me>,
> Martin Gregorie  <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:
>>And yet, way back when having a PC with an 8086 in it was a sign of
>>status, and PC financial programs where written in BASIC, the use of
>>floating point for financial values was fairly common - but only because
>>a 16 bit signed integer topped out at a mere GBP 327.68 OR were achingly
>>slow because they had to use BCD or decimal encoded monetary values.
> 
> Did the 8086 not have a BCD mode?  I only ever dealt with 8086 assembly
> language for part of one semester in college.
>
Its not mentioned in the Wikipedia article: I'd expect a mention there if 
it could do BCD.
  
> The 6502 does BCD.
>
This isn't mentioned on its Wipedia article.

However, and more to the point, I don't think any of the 886 BASICs could 
do anything other than floating point and integer arithmetic - which is 
why most of the low-end financial packages for 8/16 bit microprocessors, 
which were typically written in BASIC, held monetary values in FP 
variables and were well-known for small financial inaccuracies as a 
result.

It looks as though you'd use BCD for monetary values in DBase II - I knew 
it existed but never used it. 

The first (and last) 4GL I used was Sculptor, first on an SWTPC UniFlex 
system, then on PCs and finally on a OS9/68020 system. Sculptor stores 
monetary values as a 32 bit signed integer (so up to 
+/- 21474836.48) and can store bigger values (up to 15 digits) as a 
floating point value. Monetary values are always represented externally 
with two digits after the decimal point, i.e. GBP, USD, EU, etc are all 
stored as binary pence or cents. 

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Martin    | martin at
Gregorie  | gregorie dot org

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USB card adapters crash Pi4 bob prohaska <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2021-01-01 20:53 +0000
  Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Nikolaj Lazic <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> - 2021-01-01 23:32 +0000
    Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-02 00:52 +0000
      Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 bob prohaska <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2021-01-02 02:13 +0000
      Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 "Dave Liquorice" <allsortsnotthisbit@howhill.com> - 2021-01-02 09:49 +0000
        Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-02 12:34 +0000
          Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-02 12:51 +0000
            Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-02 13:23 +0000
              Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-02 14:52 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-02 17:27 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-02 18:05 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-02 19:45 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-02 20:41 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-03 05:53 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-03 14:39 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-03 15:41 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-01-03 18:38 +0000
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                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-04 03:17 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-04 11:33 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-04 12:24 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-04 13:58 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-01-04 10:21 -0500
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-04 15:33 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Björn Lundin <b.f.lundin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-23 23:03 +0100
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-23 22:54 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-01-23 18:30 -0500
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                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> - 2021-01-25 17:23 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-25 18:31 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-25 18:47 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-01-26 10:59 -0500
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                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2021-01-26 23:11 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-25 18:55 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Dennis <dennis@none.none> - 2021-01-25 15:21 -0600
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-24 09:36 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-03 19:36 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-01-03 21:16 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-03 22:40 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-01-03 20:44 -0500
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-04 11:46 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-01-04 09:38 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-04 12:03 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-01-04 11:01 -0500
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-04 17:15 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-01-04 14:03 -0500
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-05 06:17 +0000
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                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2021-01-02 16:36 +0000
                Re: USB card adapters crash Pi4 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-02 16:38 +0000
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