Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.sys.raspberry-pi > #9324

Re: Linux, Windows and rPi

Show all headers | View raw

On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 16:46:14 -0400, rickman wrote:

> On 8/4/2015 3:19 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 18:25:43 +0000, Rob wrote:
>>
>>> Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 16:25:08 +0100, Theo Markettos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Maybe so, but the sudden disappearance of many brands of satnavs
>>>>>> (Binatone, Vertica, Medion to name a few) from Maplins and online
>>>>>> shops a month or three after M$ killed WM5/6 without an apparent
>>>>>> successor and their subsequent arrival as NIB items on eBay looked
>>>>>> too well choreographed to be coincidence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Given the last release of WM6 was 2010, and WM5 in 2007, the writing
>>>>> wasn't so much on the wall, as the wall had been condemned and
>>>>> earmarked for redevelopment.  Since WM6 has been out of support for
>>>>> 2.5 years, and WM5 will do so in a couple of months, it's not very
>>>>> responsible for OEMs to sell new systems that won't receive security
>>>>> updates.
>>>>>
>>>> Sure, but all I'm saying is that its kind of interesting that it all
>>>> collapsed so suddenly and that this was the death warrant for a whole
>>>> class of GPS-equipped devices, namely low cost, phoneless satnavs.
>>>> Its a market that Android hasn't really taken over.
>>>
>>> I think the popular TomTom satnav is running Linux.
>>>
>> Yes, I heard that it always was on some form of Linux, but AFAIK its
>> some secret proprietary flavour.
> 
> I believe if you check, a "secret proprietary flavour" of Linux is not
> allowed by the license.
>
What license is the kernel under? I'd supposed that it was GPLed. 

IIRC the GPL says that you have to make the GPLed code you're using and 
any mods to it available to users under the GPL and pass the changes back 
to the original author. 

However, I'd think it could be a bit different for the Linux kernel, 
because the changes you'd make when porting the kernel to new hardware 
would most likely all be the addition of separate modules such as the 
boot loader, drivers and other hardware-specific modules or stuff needed 
to let the system boot without user interaction. Since these are 
separately compiled code and not part of the GPLed kernel, which wouldn't 
need any changes if you used GCC or a compatible compiler, I don't think 
they have to be GPLed. AFAIK that's always been the case for GPLed code 
and has certainly always been the case for LGPLed code. 

You're encouraged to GPL your original parts of the combined ensemble, 
but don't have to and can even, if you wish, use a proprietary license 
for it and distribute it only as binary.

I read GPLv2 and LGPLv2 very carefully when they were released and have 
always used them for my own stuff.

> Not criticizing, just curious, is "flavour" the British spelling of the
> American "flavor"?
>
Yes. Its a common pattern: this particular British->American spelling 
change occurs in a few places: as well as flavour->flavor there's also 
colour->color and probably others. I find this is quite odd, considering 
that a lot of American pronunciation is still very close to Elizabethan 
English, or so I was told by a West Virginian when we were crossing Asia, 
following the Hippy Trail on a truck back in the '70s. In any case it was 
the first English colony in America, named, I was taught, by Walter 
Raleigh in honour of Elizabeth 1, the Virgin Queen.


-- 
martin@   | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org       |

Back to comp.sys.raspberry-pi | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Linux, Windows and rPi rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 20:13 -0400
  Re: Linux, Windows and rPi tumppiw <tumppiw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 03:17 +0300
  Re: Linux, Windows and rPi hda <agent700@ay.invalid> - 2015-08-03 02:26 +0200
  Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-03 02:20 +0100
    Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-03 13:04 +0000
      Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-04 02:43 +0100
        Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-04 09:25 +0000
          Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-08-04 16:25 +0100
            Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-04 17:30 +0000
              Re: Linux, Windows and rPi rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 13:39 -0400
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-04 18:47 +0100
              Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-04 18:25 +0000
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-04 19:19 +0000
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:46 -0400
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-04 22:02 +0100
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-04 22:12 +0000
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 18:31 -0400
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-05 01:24 +0100
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-08-05 10:55 +0100
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-05 10:19 +0000
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-05 03:31 +0100
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-05 08:22 +0100
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-05 08:11 +0000
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-05 09:42 +0100
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2015-08-05 17:14 +0100
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-05 20:01 +0100
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-05 19:42 +0000
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-05 19:44 +0000
                Re: Linux, Windows and rPi rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:55 -0400
          Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-04 20:27 +0100
            Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-04 20:19 +0000
        Re: Linux, Windows and rPi druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-08-04 20:36 +0100
  Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-03 05:33 +0000
    Re: Linux, Windows and rPi druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-08-03 20:56 +0100
      Re: Linux, Windows and rPi mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-03 21:09 +0100
        Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-03 21:08 +0000
          Re: Linux, Windows and rPi "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-11 10:31 +0100
        Re: Linux, Windows and rPi rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 22:03 -0400
          Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-04 07:16 +0000
            Re: Linux, Windows and rPi John Doe <john@doe.com> - 2015-08-04 09:28 +0000
              Re: Linux, Windows and rPi David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-04 10:38 +0100
            Re: Linux, Windows and rPi Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-04 09:39 +0000

csiph-web