Re: R Pi 0

From	Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject	Re: R Pi 0
Date	2015-11-30 08:00 +0000
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in 10111 20151129 113231 Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 08:45:06 +0000, Bob Martin wrote:
>
>> in 10104 20151128 140017 Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Wrong: 1900 - released in 1964 (same year as the IBM S/360) and, unlike
>>>the IBM, all 1900 programs were effectively in-memory virtual machines
>>>(all registers were the first few words of a program, all program
>>>addresses zero bases in the image, unlike the S/360 where, prior to MVS,
>>>all programs had to be compiled for the hardware address range it ran
>>>in.
>>
>> I used all the OS/360 versions before MVS but I don't remember that.
>> Compile/assemble was followed by linkedit step which created a
>> relocatable module.
>
>I've only briefly used S/360 and/or S/370 (OS/MVT with SPFFY) but I
>remember back in the late '60s hearing people complaining about the
>inflexibility of S/360s running under DOS or OS/MFT because of the
>requirement to link-edit programs for the memory partition they ran in.

I think you must be referring to DOS which I know nothing about.
The compile-linkedit system was in PCP from the beginning and unchanged
through MFT I, MFT II and MVT.
 
>IIRC DOS soon vanished, and was anyway only used on the smallest systems
>(360/30 and the like) and by 1970 I think all the bigger ones were on OS/
>MVT, which worked as you describe.
>
>I didn't like SPFFY at all, but still have a quite a soft spot for
>OS/400, which I used on AS/400 boxes. It was remarkably bug-free and CL,
>its command language, was very regular and easy to use. The only drawback
>on these systems was the ugly block-mode text editor and IBM's odd
>insistence on using RPG3 - switch to PL/1 or COBOL and life was a lot
>better.
>
>
>--
>martin@   | Martin Gregorie
>gregorie. | Essex, UK
>org       |

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        Re: R Pi 0 Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-28 14:00 +0000
          Re: R Pi 0 Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-11-29 08:45 +0000
            Re: R Pi 0 Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-29 11:32 +0000
              Re: R Pi 0 Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-11-30 08:00 +0000
  Re: R Pi 0 andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) - 2015-11-26 17:48 +0000
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