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Re: My darn NAS...

From Chris Green <cl@isbd.net>
Newsgroups comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject Re: My darn NAS...
Date 2021-01-13 12:42 +0000
Message-ID <1f63dh-ppb61.ln1@esprimo.zbmc.eu> (permalink)
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The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 12/01/2021 18:04, Chris Green wrote:
> > When I copy from laptop to desktop (both quite fast machines with fast
> > disks) I get something quite a bit over 100MB/s on wired Gigabit
> > connections.  So the overhead isn't that great given that the
> > theoretical maximum would be 1000/8 which is 125MB/s.  So on a 300Mb/s
> > wireless link between the same two machines one would, sort of, expect
> > something a bit more than 30MB/s whereas in reality one gets about
> > half of that.
> 
> in general I have found that on a good link, speeds of a little over 
> 1/10th Mbps rate to be obtained at the byte level, So overheads  is not 
> that heavy a penalty.
> 
> Probably ~10%

Yes, that's exactly what I was trying to say really, on a wired
connection one gets something over the 1/10 the Mbp/s in MBp/s.


> That's on a *full duplex* link. Broadband is full duplex. Ethernet of 
> the cat 5 sort is full duplex.
> 
> Wifi is NOT full duplex.
> 
> That means that any ACK packets going back share bandwidth with the 
> forward data stream, In a fairly nasty 'wait till the stream packet size 
> is exceeded, then send an ack oh dear collisions/backoffs/try again...' 
> sort of way.
> 
Simply having to interleave the ACKs with the data going in the other
direction will slow things down considerably.


> When my Pi zero link was going titsup before I slapped in an access 
> point 5 feet away, although it *said* it was connected at 5Mbps, it 
> couldn't support a 128kbps stream of audio.
> My so called 72Mbps links couldn't handle HD TV, which is around 5Mbps I 
> think, reliably.
> 
I use WiFi for as little as I possibly can.  About the only major use
is using my laptop interactively like now, replying to usenet posts
and such.

-- 
Chris Green
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My darn NAS... nospam.paul.lee@f420.n105.z1.binkp.net (paul lee) - 2021-01-10 17:46 +1300
  Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-11 04:10 +0000
    Re: My darn NAS... nospam.paul.lee@f420.n105.z1.binkp.net (paul lee) - 2021-01-12 00:28 +1300
      Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-12 10:26 +0000
      Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-12 10:57 +0000
        Re: My darn NAS... Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-01-12 12:16 -0500
          Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-12 18:04 +0000
            Re: My darn NAS... Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-12 18:38 +0000
            Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 12:20 +0000
              Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-13 12:42 +0000
              Re: My darn NAS... Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-13 12:39 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 14:23 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-13 18:21 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 19:25 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2021-01-14 12:58 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-14 13:10 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 13:35 +0000
              Re: My darn NAS... Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> - 2021-01-13 17:33 +0000
              Re: My darn NAS... nospam.paul.lee@f420.n105.z1.binkp.net (paul lee) - 2021-01-13 16:22 +1300
        Re: My darn NAS... nospam.paul.lee@f420.n105.z1.binkp.net (paul lee) - 2021-01-12 13:20 +1300
          Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-13 09:46 +0000
            Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 12:21 +0000
            Re: My darn NAS... nospam.paul.lee@f420.n105.z1.binkp.net (paul lee) - 2021-01-13 16:20 +1300
              Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-14 08:56 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 11:06 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-14 11:43 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 12:22 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 12:43 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-14 13:29 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2021-01-14 17:42 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 12:36 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-14 13:22 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... nospam.Richard.Falken@f1.n770.z6840.fidonet.org (Richard Falken) - 2021-01-14 11:45 +1300
                Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-14 18:05 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-14 18:29 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-14 18:35 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2021-01-15 11:25 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... nospam.Richard.Falken@f1.n770.z6810.fidonet.org (Richard Falken) - 2021-01-14 06:36 +1300
                Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 12:53 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-14 13:19 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 14:29 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-14 14:52 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2021-01-14 17:31 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-14 13:24 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 13:39 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-14 14:07 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-14 15:22 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> - 2021-01-14 20:08 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-15 08:34 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-14 13:17 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-01-16 12:30 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... nospam.paul.lee@f420.n105.z1.binkp.net (paul lee) - 2021-01-18 17:57 +1300
                Re: My darn NAS... Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2021-01-19 13:37 +0000
                Re: My darn NAS... nospam.paul.lee@f420.n105.z1.binkp.net (paul lee) - 2021-01-21 18:06 +1300
  Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-11 10:15 +0000
    Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-11 15:16 +0000
      Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-11 15:31 +0000
        Re: My darn NAS... Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-11 18:05 +0000
    Re: My darn NAS... nospam.paul.lee@f420.n105.z1.binkp.net (paul lee) - 2021-01-12 00:31 +1300
      Re: My darn NAS... Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-01-12 12:19 -0500
        Re: My darn NAS... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-13 12:09 +0000
  Re: My darn NAS... druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2021-01-11 10:25 +0000
    Re: My darn NAS... nospam.paul.lee@f420.n105.z1.binkp.net (paul lee) - 2021-01-12 00:35 +1300
      Re: My darn NAS... Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-01-12 12:25 -0500
        Re: My darn NAS... druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2021-01-12 19:32 +0000
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