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  Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) - 2026-06-19 18:42 +0100
    Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon JJenssen <joemajen@arcor.de> - 2026-06-20 12:30 +0200
      Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) - 2026-06-20 13:10 +0100
        Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-20 14:42 +0100
          Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon JJenssen <joemajen@arcor.de> - 2026-06-21 07:51 +0200
            Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-06-21 09:35 +0200
              Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-21 10:29 +0100
              Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-21 18:10 +0000
              Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-06-22 10:16 +1200
                Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-06-22 08:13 +0200
                  Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-22 10:26 +0100
                    Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 14:03 +0000
                      Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-22 17:25 +0100
                        Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 20:51 +0000
                          Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 04:22 +0100
                    Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-22 17:07 +0000
                      Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 20:47 +0000
                        Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-06-23 10:49 +1200
              Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 01:30 +0000
                Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-24 12:07 +0200
                  Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 11:41 +0100
                    Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-24 18:42 +0000
                      Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-24 19:42 +0000
                        Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 13:25 -0700
                          Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-25 01:39 +0000
                        Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 21:53 +0100
                        Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-25 01:30 +0000
                  Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 08:29 -0700
                    Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 16:36 +0100
                      Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-24 17:33 +0000
                  Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-25 01:13 +0000
                    Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-25 11:26 +0200
                      Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-25 23:21 +0000
                        Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-26 10:55 +0200
                          Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 10:41 +0100
                Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2026-06-24 21:38 +0000
                  Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-25 01:12 +0000
            Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) - 2026-06-21 14:21 +0100
              Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-21 17:28 +0100
                Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-21 18:56 +0200
                  Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-21 17:38 +0000
                    Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-21 23:36 +0000
                Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-21 18:15 +0000
    Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 01:24 +0000
      Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-06-24 17:35 +1200
        Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-06-24 07:45 +0200
          Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 11:36 +0100
            Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-06-25 09:35 +1200
              Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-25 01:17 +0000
                Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-06-25 18:24 +1200
                  Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-25 10:19 +0100
                  Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-26 01:59 +0000
              Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-25 01:50 +0000
                Retroconning closed-source proprietary software, and wiping the rest (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-25 07:12 +0100
                  Re: Retroconning closed-source proprietary software, and wiping the rest (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-06-25 18:32 +1200
                Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-06-25 18:27 +1200
                  Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-25 06:50 +0000
                    Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-06-25 19:41 +1200
                  Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-25 11:37 +0200
                    Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-25 18:19 +0100
                    Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 10:01 +0100
              """Standard""" software (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-25 06:55 +0100
                Re: """Standard""" software (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-06-25 18:34 +1200
                  Re: """Standard""" software (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-26 01:57 +0000
                    Re: """Standard""" software (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-06-26 18:23 +1200
                      Re: """Standard""" software Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 09:37 +0100
                        Re: """Standard""" software Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-06-27 11:00 +1200
                    Re: """Standard""" software (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-26 18:03 +0000
                      Re: """Standard""" software (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 12:23 -0700
                        Re: """Standard""" software (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-06-27 11:09 +1200
                          Re: """Standard""" software (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-27 18:22 +0000
                            Re: """Standard""" software (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-27 19:42 +0000
                            Re: """Standard""" software (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-06-28 10:46 +1200
                            Re: “Standard” software (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 23:03 +0000
                      Re: """Standard""" software (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 00:10 +0000
                        Can be trusted... (Was: """Standard""" software (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and) Linux Mint Cinnamon) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-06-27 12:53 +0000
                        Re: """Standard""" software (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-27 18:22 +0000
                          Re: """Standard""" software (was: Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-27 19:36 +0000
              Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2026-06-25 15:44 +0000
          Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 08:01 -0700
            Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 16:34 +0100
            Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2026-06-25 15:49 +0000
          Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-24 18:16 +0000
      Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-06-24 17:15 +0200
        Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-25 01:14 +0000
          Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-06-25 18:32 +0200
            Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-25 23:22 +0000
              Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-06-25 23:40 +0000
                Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 09:09 +0100
                  Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-26 18:03 +0000
                    Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-27 00:26 +0100
                    Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-06-27 15:52 +1200
                      Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-27 04:12 +0000
                        Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-27 09:41 +0100
                          Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-27 18:22 +0000
                            Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-27 19:57 +0000
                            Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-06-28 10:35 +1200
                              Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-28 00:13 +0100

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#1690 — Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon

As per subject, I have recently installed Linux Mint Cinnamon on our
trusty old 2014 MacBook Air, and it has been an excellent choice!

I have minimal experience with Linux, and with the recent purchase of a
Macbook Neo for our son the Air suddenly found itself without a use (it
had previously been my son's daily driver, running Big Sur, and coping
perfectly well with almost everything he could throw at it (even Roblox,
although some of the sub-games he joined were pretty glitchy...)).

It is the entry-level variant of the model, with a 1.4Ghz CPU, 250GB SSD,
and 4GB RAM. It had always surprised me in recent years how well it
continued to perform, especially in the last 12 months as my son used it a
lot - including for 3D design and printing - but since giving Linux Mint a
spin on it I have been even more impressed; the system runs like lightning
and, so far, I have not encountered any sluggish performance with any of
the apps I have run on it.

So, that's hopefully some useful info for anybody with an old Air kicking
around - it could potentially be an excellent Linux-dedicated machine for
you! Installation was very simple, too, with a bootable USB-stick made in
a few steps and less than 10 minutes total to complete the full
installation once begun.

I'm still finding my feet with Linux - there's a few strange quirls to it
that my Mac-shaped brain is struggling to cope with - but everything is
working well - trackpad, sound, wi-fi, I have encountered no hardware
problems whatsoever (other than having to remember different keyboard
shortcuts...).

Highly recommended!

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#1691

Am 19.06.26 um 19:42 schrieb scole:
> As per subject, I have recently installed Linux Mint Cinnamon on our
> trusty old 2014 MacBook Air, and it has been an excellent choice!
> 
> I have minimal experience with Linux, and with the recent purchase of a
> Macbook Neo for our son the Air suddenly found itself without a use (it
> had previously been my son's daily driver, running Big Sur, and coping
> perfectly well with almost everything he could throw at it (even Roblox,
> although some of the sub-games he joined were pretty glitchy...)).
> 
> It is the entry-level variant of the model, with a 1.4Ghz CPU, 250GB SSD,
> and 4GB RAM. It had always surprised me in recent years how well it
> continued to perform, especially in the last 12 months as my son used it a
> lot - including for 3D design and printing - but since giving Linux Mint a
> spin on it I have been even more impressed; the system runs like lightning
> and, so far, I have not encountered any sluggish performance with any of
> the apps I have run on it.
> 
> So, that's hopefully some useful info for anybody with an old Air kicking
> around - it could potentially be an excellent Linux-dedicated machine for
> you! Installation was very simple, too, with a bootable USB-stick made in
> a few steps and less than 10 minutes total to complete the full
> installation once begun.
> 
> I'm still finding my feet with Linux - there's a few strange quirls to it
> that my Mac-shaped brain is struggling to cope with - but everything is
> working well - trackpad, sound, wi-fi, I have encountered no hardware
> problems whatsoever (other than having to remember different keyboard
> shortcuts...).
> 
> Highly recommended!

Nice to hear this report of your experience.  I'm running a late 2010 
MacBook Air with Debian Trixie for 2 yrs. now, and excited.
It is uptodate, too.  Very easy install of the OS  Every software I 
installed worked as a charm.
Same is the hardware.  There are points with hibernation and noveau 
driver - sometimes the screen stays black.  I'm always shutting the 
machine down now.

The only issue is that I was informed the accumulator won't be available 
anymore, at least in Germany.

---

Regards
   JJenssen

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#1692

In article <1115q51$la$1@dont-email.me>, joemajen@arcor.de wrote:

> Am 19.06.26 um 19:42 schrieb scole:
<snip>
> > 
> > Highly recommended!
> 
> Nice to hear this report of your experience.  

No worries, my pleasure!

>I'm running a late 2010 MacBook Air with Debian Trixie for 2 yrs. now,
and excited.
> It is uptodate, too.  Very easy install of the OS  Every software I 
> installed worked as a charm.
> Same is the hardware.  There are points with hibernation and noveau 
> driver - sometimes the screen stays black.  I'm always shutting the 
> machine down now.

I have so far hit any hardware problems - everything is working fine. I'm
actually really surprised, I was expecting the trackpad to be an issue -
but it is perfect!

The system feels very fast and responsive, and the GUI is relatively close
to Mac OS styling, so it doesn't feel too alien. I've used Terminal in Mac
OS plenty in the past, so there hasn't been too much of a learning curve
on that side of it either, although I am absolutely not a CLI expert!
 
> The only issue is that I was informed the accumulator won't be available 
> anymore, at least in Germany.

I'm unfamiliar with "the accumulator"...

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#1693

On 20/06/2026 13:10, scole wrote:

> I'm unfamiliar with "the accumulator"...

Rechargeable battery?

-- 
"In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is 
true: it is true because it is powerful."

Lucas Bergkamp

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#1694

Am 20.06.26 um 15:42 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
> On 20/06/2026 13:10, scole wrote:
> 
>> I'm unfamiliar with "the accumulator"...
> 
> Rechargeable battery?
> 

Yes, that is meant.  Thank you :)

---

Regards
   JJenssen

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#1695

JJenssen <joemajen@arcor.de> wrote:
>Am 20.06.26 um 15:42 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
>> On 20/06/2026 13:10, scole wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm unfamiliar with "the accumulator"...
>> 
>> Rechargeable battery?
>> 
>
>Yes, that is meant.  Thank you :)

This thread for some reason gave me 40 year old 6502 vibes, where the
only fully usable register is called the accumulator.

Thank you for the smile.

Greetings
Marc
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#1696

On 21/06/2026 08:35, Marc Haber wrote:
> JJenssen <joemajen@arcor.de> wrote:
>> Am 20.06.26 um 15:42 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
>>> On 20/06/2026 13:10, scole wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm unfamiliar with "the accumulator"...
>>>
>>> Rechargeable battery?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, that is meant.  Thank you :)
> 
> This thread for some reason gave me 40 year old 6502 vibes, where the
> only fully usable register is called the accumulator.
> 

Still is, I think.

Usually abbreviated to A



> Thank you for the smile.
> 
> Greetings
> Marc

-- 
“Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.”

H.L. Mencken, A Mencken Chrestomathy

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#1701

On Sun, 21 Jun 2026 09:35:34 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

> JJenssen <joemajen@arcor.de> wrote:
>>Am 20.06.26 um 15:42 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
>>> On 20/06/2026 13:10, scole wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm unfamiliar with "the accumulator"...
>>> 
>>> Rechargeable battery?
>>> 
>>> 
>>Yes, that is meant.  Thank you
> 
> This thread for some reason gave me 40 year old 6502 vibes, where the
> only fully usable register is called the accumulator.

The Z80 also had the AF register pair. A was the accumulator and F was the 
flag register. 

Somewhere along the way I acquired 'Programming and Interfacing the 6502 
With Experiments' although I never worked with the 6502. 

https://shop.eater.net/products/6502-computer-kit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnzuMJLZRdU

The videos are interesting since he uses a modern static version that can 
be stepped very slowly. At around 9:30 in the video he sets up an Arduino 
Mega to read the 6502 outputs.

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#1703

On 2026-06-21 07:35:34 +0000, Marc Haber said:
> JJenssen <joemajen@arcor.de> wrote:
>> Am 20.06.26 um 15:42 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
>>> On 20/06/2026 13:10, scole wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm unfamiliar with "the accumulator"...
>>> 
>>> Rechargeable battery?
>> 
>> Yes, that is meant.  Thank you :)
> 
> This thread for some reason gave me 40 year old 6502 vibes, where the 
> only fully usable register is called the accumulator.
> 
> Thank you for the smile.
> 
> Greetings
> Marc

If you're a idiot with more money than sense who gambles, then an 
"accumulator" is also a term used in betting. Basically it is making a 
single bet that four or more outcomes all happen, usually in order, so 
the chances of winning are even smaller.

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#1705

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>If you're a idiot with more money than sense who gambles, then an 
>"accumulator" is also a term used in betting. Basically it is making a 
>single bet that four or more outcomes all happen, usually in order, so 
>the chances of winning are even smaller.

I didn't know that. Thanks for educating me. It's unlikely I'll ever
need that word in that context ;-)

Grüße
Marc
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#1706

On 22/06/2026 07:13, Marc Haber wrote:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> If you're a idiot with more money than sense who gambles, then an
>> "accumulator" is also a term used in betting. Basically it is making a
>> single bet that four or more outcomes all happen, usually in order, so
>> the chances of winning are even smaller.
> 
> I didn't know that. Thanks for educating me. It's unlikely I'll ever
> need that word in that context ;-)
> 

I have never ised it in that sense although living at the centre of UK 
horseracing I know plenty who have, Every so often someone wins big and 
takes his mates to a big champagne dinner  and the local papers talk 
about it.
Etymologically it just means a place where stuff sticks around and gets 
bigger.
If its money its an accumulator bet. Or in fact a stock market fund 
whose purpose is not to deliver income, but to grow capital worth.
Electrically its a secondary cell - one in which charge can be actively 
stored.
On a CPU its the register where (most) results are placed  - they may 
not be additions in this context of course




> Grüße
> Marc

-- 
    "Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have 
forgotten your aim."

  George Santayana

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#1707

On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 10:26:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> I have never ised it in that sense although living at the centre of UK
> horseracing I know plenty who have, Every so often someone wins big and
> takes his mates to a big champagne dinner  and the local papers talk
> about it.

I don't think it's rare enough to make the papers but at least in the US a 
'trifecta' is when you pick the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place horses in a single 
race. The concept has been expanded to the lotteries.

New York state was one of the first to start a state run lottery. There 
was a bit of a scandal when someone found the winning ticket was pulled 
from the set of all tickets printed, not the set of the tickets actually 
sold. An innocent mistake, I'm sure.

What odds are the books giving on your next PM? At least you can get rid 
of the bastards in less than 4 years.

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#1708

On 22/06/2026 15:03, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 10:26:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> I have never ised it in that sense although living at the centre of UK
>> horseracing I know plenty who have, Every so often someone wins big and
>> takes his mates to a big champagne dinner  and the local papers talk
>> about it.
> 
> I don't think it's rare enough to make the papers but at least in the US a
> 'trifecta' is when you pick the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place horses in a single
> race. The concept has been expanded to the lotteries.
> 
> New York state was one of the first to start a state run lottery. There
> was a bit of a scandal when someone found the winning ticket was pulled
> from the set of all tickets printed, not the set of the tickets actually
> sold. An innocent mistake, I'm sure.
> 
> What odds are the books giving on your next PM? At least you can get rid
> of the bastards in less than 4 years.

Odds on what? that he dies from a surfeit of peaches and cider?

My guess is he wont be able to do anything constructive,  At best he may 
do nothing at all.

-- 
“Some people like to travel by train because it combines the slowness of 
a car with the cramped public exposure of 
an airplane.”

Dennis Miller

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#1711

On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 17:25:47 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 22/06/2026 15:03, rbowman wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 10:26:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> 
>>> I have never ised it in that sense although living at the centre of UK
>>> horseracing I know plenty who have, Every so often someone wins big
>>> and takes his mates to a big champagne dinner  and the local papers
>>> talk about it.
>> 
>> I don't think it's rare enough to make the papers but at least in the
>> US a 'trifecta' is when you pick the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place horses in
>> a single race. The concept has been expanded to the lotteries.
>> 
>> New York state was one of the first to start a state run lottery. There
>> was a bit of a scandal when someone found the winning ticket was pulled
>> from the set of all tickets printed, not the set of the tickets
>> actually sold. An innocent mistake, I'm sure.
>> 
>> What odds are the books giving on your next PM? At least you can get
>> rid of the bastards in less than 4 years.
> 
> Odds on what? that he dies from a surfeit of peaches and cider?
> 
> My guess is he wont be able to do anything constructive,  At best he may
> do nothing at all.

I meant who are the odds makers saying will be the next up. Burnham? At 
least he lasted longer than Liz though he may have eclipsed Trump's record 
for going from shiny to shit.

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#1713

On 22/06/2026 21:51, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 17:25:47 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 22/06/2026 15:03, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 10:26:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have never ised it in that sense although living at the centre of UK
>>>> horseracing I know plenty who have, Every so often someone wins big
>>>> and takes his mates to a big champagne dinner  and the local papers
>>>> talk about it.
>>>
>>> I don't think it's rare enough to make the papers but at least in the
>>> US a 'trifecta' is when you pick the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place horses in
>>> a single race. The concept has been expanded to the lotteries.
>>>
>>> New York state was one of the first to start a state run lottery. There
>>> was a bit of a scandal when someone found the winning ticket was pulled
>>> from the set of all tickets printed, not the set of the tickets
>>> actually sold. An innocent mistake, I'm sure.
>>>
>>> What odds are the books giving on your next PM? At least you can get
>>> rid of the bastards in less than 4 years.
>>
>> Odds on what? that he dies from a surfeit of peaches and cider?
>>
>> My guess is he wont be able to do anything constructive,  At best he may
>> do nothing at all.
> 
> I meant who are the odds makers saying will be the next up. Burnham?
99.999% sure.

  > At
> least he lasted longer than Liz though he may have eclipsed Trump's record
> for going from shiny to shit.
> 

-- 
"What do you think about Gay Marriage?"
"I don't."
"Don't what?"
"Think about Gay Marriage."

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#1709

On 2026-06-22, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 22/06/2026 07:13, Marc Haber wrote:
>
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you're a idiot with more money than sense who gambles, then an
>>> "accumulator" is also a term used in betting. Basically it is making a
>>> single bet that four or more outcomes all happen, usually in order, so
>>> the chances of winning are even smaller.
>> 
>> I didn't know that. Thanks for educating me. It's unlikely I'll ever
>> need that word in that context ;-)
>
> I have never ised it in that sense although living at the centre of UK 
> horseracing I know plenty who have, Every so often someone wins big and 
> takes his mates to a big champagne dinner  and the local papers talk 
> about it.
> Etymologically it just means a place where stuff sticks around and gets 
> bigger.
> If its money its an accumulator bet. Or in fact a stock market fund 
> whose purpose is not to deliver income, but to grow capital worth.
> Electrically its a secondary cell - one in which charge can be actively 
> stored.
> On a CPU its the register where (most) results are placed  - they may 
> not be additions in this context of course

My closet is an accumulator; it gathers junk and dust bunnies.

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#1710

On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 17:07:23 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> My closet is an accumulator; it gathers junk and dust bunnies.

You're lucky. I have a whole garden shed that does that. Maybe not bunnies 
but the random cat that gets nosy. 

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#1712

On 2026-06-22 20:47:11 +0000, rbowman said:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 17:07:23 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> 
>> My closet is an accumulator; it gathers junk and dust bunnies.
> 
> You're lucky. I have a whole garden shed that does that. Maybe not bunnies
> but the random cat that gets nosy.

Our garden shed hasn't been used in at least 10 years, so has a few 
bits of junk and a ton of insects and spiderwebs. Plus the concrete pad 
it sits on is tilted due to rain washing away some of the ground 
beneath one corner ... which of course is the corner behind the shed 
where the two fences meet, so it's impossible to get there to do 
anything about it, unless we dismantle the whole shed.  :-\

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#1715

On Sun, 21 Jun 2026 09:35:34 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

> This thread for some reason gave me 40 year old 6502 vibes, where the
> only fully usable register is called the accumulator.

“Accumulator” was a common synonym for “register” in the early days.

E.g. I think the PDP-10 had 4 accumulators. Their assembly-language
names were AC0, AC1, AC2, AC3.

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#1718

On 2026-06-24 03:30, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jun 2026 09:35:34 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> 
>> This thread for some reason gave me 40 year old 6502 vibes, where the
>> only fully usable register is called the accumulator.
> 
> “Accumulator” was a common synonym for “register” in the early days.
> 
> E.g. I think the PDP-10 had 4 accumulators. Their assembly-language
> names were AC0, AC1, AC2, AC3.

An accumulator is not a register. It is different, you can do operations 
on it. Maybe on current processors the difference is not that big.

-- 
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        Carlos E.R.
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