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| Started by | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| First post | 2020-06-27 16:49 -0400 |
| Last post | 2020-07-04 20:31 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 519 — 32 participants |
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Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-27 16:49 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-27 17:07 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-27 22:33 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-28 02:45 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-06-27 17:19 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-27 17:48 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-06-27 17:53 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-27 22:35 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-01 15:09 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-01 11:02 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-06-27 18:02 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-27 22:36 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-06-28 06:22 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-28 16:26 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-03 03:51 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-02 20:58 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 02:31 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-03 11:19 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-03 08:29 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 04:06 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 21:13 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-04 01:56 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 00:02 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-04 03:49 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 01:13 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 12:50 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 16:24 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 09:41 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-04 14:01 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 14:07 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 18:35 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-04 15:16 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 17:08 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-04 07:23 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 11:03 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 16:08 +0000
Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 09:16 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-04 15:19 -0400
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 19:36 +0000
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 21:07 +0000
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 14:11 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-05 03:18 +0000
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 04:02 +0000
Arlen is utterly unmoved by facts Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 21:48 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 15:47 -0400
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 14:07 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 17:12 -0400
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 14:15 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 17:22 -0400
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2020-07-04 16:25 -0500
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 14:41 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 21:45 +0000
Arlen makes yet another explicit claim... (wasRe: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs You know who! <no@body.net> - 2020-07-04 14:49 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-05 03:14 +0000
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-09 18:34 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-09 21:52 -0400
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-10 02:56 +0000
Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-09 20:38 -0700
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-11 15:24 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-10 23:35 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 04:24 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 04:36 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-11 10:40 -0700
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-12 12:55 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-12 01:10 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-11 22:36 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-12 04:17 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-13 16:16 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-13 05:43 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-13 21:55 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs delvon daily <delvondaily@example.com> - 2020-07-13 14:37 -0700
OT: Why must Arlen nymshift? (was Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-13 15:13 -0700
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-14 16:07 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 01:22 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-14 21:12 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 19:27 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-15 11:59 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 22:54 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-16 16:37 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-16 18:10 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-17 13:29 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-16 21:45 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-18 22:14 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-18 11:50 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-19 16:07 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 08:17 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-19 14:34 +0200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-20 16:49 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-21 11:31 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-22 12:47 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-21 21:02 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-17 06:41 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-18 22:15 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-18 11:50 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-19 16:11 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 08:17 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-20 16:51 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-21 11:31 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-18 07:18 -0700
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-18 11:50 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-18 21:47 +0200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 04:51 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs John Michael <tonymayo43@gmail.com> - 2020-07-11 01:30 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 05:55 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 05:59 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-14 10:11 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-15 17:14 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: xxxxx is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-18 08:37 -0700
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: xxxxx is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-18 18:31 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: xxxxx is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-18 21:01 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: xxxxx is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-18 20:54 +0000
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-10 15:21 +1200
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-09 20:30 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-09 23:36 -0400
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-09 20:42 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-10 15:44 +1200
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-10 04:18 +0000
Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs For a friend <notyou@yes.yes> - 2020-07-09 21:35 -0700
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-10 01:04 -0400
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-09 22:06 -0700
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-10 01:27 -0400
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-09 23:13 -0700
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-10 14:20 +0000
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-10 10:09 -0700
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-11 15:18 +1200
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 05:00 +0000
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-10 22:34 -0700
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-12 12:54 +1200
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-12 04:22 +0000
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-12 06:07 +0000
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-10 18:47 +1200
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-10 14:27 +0000
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-10 14:13 +0000
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-09 23:36 -0400
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-05 10:09 +1200
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 15:10 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 23:29 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 16:56 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 21:36 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-05 10:06 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 23:23 +0000
How is it that Arlen can be this thick? Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs He really has no clue <none@all.com> - 2020-07-04 16:52 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2020-07-05 03:25 +0200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 03:08 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 20:27 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 17:21 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 16:59 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 17:12 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 23:57 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2020-07-05 21:15 +0100
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 00:14 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 16:40 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 17:12 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-05 03:22 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-12 10:51 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-12 14:47 -0400
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Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-26 02:49 +0000
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Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-26 19:01 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-26 22:19 -0400
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Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-27 13:30 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-13 23:08 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-13 20:26 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-13 16:41 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-13 20:26 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-14 02:17 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-07-19 11:34 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 12:41 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-20 03:17 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-13 19:29 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-14 09:27 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-13 23:42 +0200
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Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-14 11:56 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-14 10:50 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 14:23 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-15 08:39 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-14 21:48 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 21:54 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-14 21:18 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 21:25 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-14 22:06 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 22:21 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-15 02:30 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-15 07:56 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-15 09:02 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-15 09:50 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-15 13:13 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-15 15:42 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-15 15:44 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-16 08:43 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-14 11:45 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-14 10:35 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 14:23 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-15 08:38 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-14 21:10 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-15 08:59 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-14 11:47 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-14 17:42 +0200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-15 08:33 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 16:37 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-15 08:55 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-15 22:19 +0200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-16 08:47 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-15 23:10 +0200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-16 14:41 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-16 18:44 +0200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-16 10:16 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-16 14:29 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-17 08:34 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-13 17:55 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-13 23:19 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-13 20:26 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-14 21:30 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-15 10:05 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-15 13:13 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-23 00:06 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 00:10 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-23 15:34 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 19:06 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-23 19:42 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-07-26 11:56 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-12 16:58 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-12 20:08 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-27 22:30 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-27 19:08 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-06-27 19:11 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-28 02:19 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-28 00:37 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-28 16:20 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-28 12:52 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-28 21:30 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-29 16:45 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-30 04:21 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-01 02:56 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-27 22:41 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-27 19:16 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-28 00:26 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-28 00:30 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-28 02:25 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-28 03:05 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-28 12:44 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-06-29 11:51 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-06-29 08:29 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-29 13:00 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-06-29 11:10 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-29 10:00 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-29 17:30 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-06-29 19:14 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-29 21:16 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-29 19:41 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-06-29 15:55 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-29 13:53 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-29 21:16 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-29 14:32 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-30 04:19 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 04:31 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-01 10:06 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-01 16:21 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-01 16:56 +0000
Why does Arlen always lose? Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Not Arlen <whodat@ness.biz> - 2020-07-01 10:40 -0700
Re: Why does Arlen always lose? Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs John Doe <always.look@message.header> - 2020-07-02 03:46 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-01 13:09 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-01 10:37 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-01 19:13 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-01 15:40 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-01 12:45 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-01 21:27 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-03 11:47 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 09:11 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-03 17:21 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 10:29 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-03 15:49 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 13:56 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-03 20:59 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-04 10:32 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 23:43 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2020-07-05 08:59 +0200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 15:52 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 15:43 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 14:18 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-05 17:14 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 16:26 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-03 16:50 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-03 21:17 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 13:55 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-01 15:46 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-01 12:51 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 02:25 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 01:11 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 15:51 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-03 21:12 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 00:31 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-03 20:54 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 03:18 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-03 23:50 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 12:40 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-04 10:34 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 11:03 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 16:00 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 16:19 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 20:27 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 16:46 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-05 17:49 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-06 02:09 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-03 14:41 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-01 10:33 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-01 19:15 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-29 21:16 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-29 14:27 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-29 09:15 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-29 16:59 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-29 16:53 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 04:53 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2020-06-30 08:14 -0500
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-06-30 10:51 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 19:37 +0000
OT: Why must Arlen constantly lie? (was Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Just for Arlen <justforarlen@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-30 13:57 -0700
Re: OT: Why must Arlen constantly lie? (was Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-01 16:55 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 17:48 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2020-06-30 13:09 -0500
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-30 11:25 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 19:07 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Especially for Arlen <especiallyforarlen@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-30 13:59 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-12-02 04:59 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Leonardo Pacheco <lpacheco72@gmail.com> - 2020-07-28 23:58 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-29 09:47 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-29 08:38 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 04:44 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 04:49 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 05:02 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-01 12:27 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-01 15:41 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 02:18 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-01 21:32 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 02:01 -0400
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Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 15:36 -0400
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| Date | 2020-07-26 11:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrhqpn8.ssk.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> |
| In reply to | #133770 |
In message <Qo6TG.198131$DO2.23971@fx45.iad> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 2020-07-25 22:32, Lewis wrote: >> The A series chips have *NOTHING* to do with future Macs. > Go back to the WWDC presentations. Go back to when they state that they > are building the new macs with a chip that has the same featiures at the > iPhone (neural network, secure enclave, built-in GPU etc. Which does not mean it is the same chip. > The low level designs usee for one will be used by others. No one said anythign like that. You made that up. > Not very different from the A12 used by iPad is derived from the A12 > used by iphone, and the A10 on Apple TV was derived from the iPhone > A10. The hint these chips are related is that they are all in the same series, The Mac will not be running A series chips. (Well, honestly, they could use an A-series in a new MacBook, it kicks Intel's ass, but that is doubtful). > If Apple spends the megabucks to review the design so the chip can be > made at 5nm instead of 7, it's going to re-use that work for all the > variants. Megabucks to you, couch detritus to Apple. You are also assuming, wrongly, that they just started designing the Apple Silicon chips. They have been planning this for at LEAST half a decade. > In fact, what is liekly is that Apple will design amn 8 core chip for > say 3.5ghz for its Macs, and at production, when a chip is produced with > a deffective core, will be derated to 6 or 45 cores and used on lower > end device. Similarly, a chip that fails at 3.5ghz but works fine at 2 > would be derated and used for lower end device. Wow, you just described how every chip is produced. You're so clever! How did you ever think of this! ZOMG! Has anyone told Intel? > So it makes sense to have as much commonality as you can because with > that, you same not only in design costs, but also production costs and > increase yields. Apple will be making tens of millions of chips in addition to the hundreds of millions they are already making. > I am prestty sure Apple has a very godo idea on how to maximise design > investment to benefit from the watch to the biggest mac they decide to make. And only you could think that the SoC for the watch will be used in a Mac. It's not used on anything but the watch. >>> I never stated Apple Pay had a limit. >> >> You are a fucking liar. You stated it repeatedly. > If you truly have no motive to just insult and lie, I suggest you get You are a liar, everyone knows you are a liar. You lied constantly about Apple Pay and claimed many many times that Apple Pay had a limit. You are still WRONGLY claiming that Canada imposes a limit on apple pay, which is still wrong. > Trump,s mental test. You are also an utter and complete piece of shit. > I always stated that Apple Pay was bound by the same limist of other > contactless cards Which it is not, > and did not have its own limit. And no, that is NOT what you said. Canadian BANKS put limits on their account holders use of Apple Pay. This is not a limit to using Apple Pay in Canada and it NEVER HAS BEEN. -- @notallmikaylas Any man who is genuinely scared that feminism means female dominance pictures a world where men are treated like women. Think about that.
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-07-26 14:21 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pQjTG.176181$AN2.147718@fx46.iad> |
| In reply to | #133777 |
On 2020-07-26 07:20, Lewis wrote: > And only you could think that the SoC for the watch will be used in a > Mac. It's not used on anything but the watch. I never claimed the Soc built for the watch would be used on a Mac. What I claim is that the design engineers will work on chip families that share technologies inside. So the same cores design, same secure enclave, neural network, USB controller etc. And then some chips within that family will have differences, some will have more cores etc. The same logic inside the chip that lets Apple Watch have such low power consumptiopn benefits laptops just the same, except they can ramp up the clock to higher speed and consume more power than a watch. If Apple really splits development of chips into 2 separate development groups, then the very synergy of the Axx development is lost and Apple will end up with very costly chips for its Macs with low volume and high development costs and won't be able to compete against Intel PCs. > You are a liar, everyone knows you are a liar. You lied constantly about > Apple Pay and claimed many many times that Apple Pay had a limit. Why do you keep stating I stated Apple Pay had a limit? You know full well never said that, yet you insisit on lying to try to smear me. Apple Pay in Canada is bound to the same limits as all other contactless cards. > You > are still WRONGLY claiming that Canada imposes a limit on apple pay, > which is still wrong. The limit is on contactless payments. And yes there is a limit and I had provided you with the URL from various bank sites that confirmed it. yet you continue to try to smear me for something I had proven YOU were wrong.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-07-26 14:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <260720201459115905%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #133784 |
In article <pQjTG.176181$AN2.147718@fx46.iad>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > > > And only you could think that the SoC for the watch will be used in a > > Mac. It's not used on anything but the watch. > > I never claimed the Soc built for the watch would be used on a Mac. What > I claim is that the design engineers will work on chip families that > share technologies inside. So the same cores design, same secure > enclave, neural network, USB controller etc. And then some chips within > that family will have differences, some will have more cores etc. that's true, but what you fail to grasp is that each processor is optimized for its specific use case. the s* for the apple watch doesn't have as many cores as the iphone 11 because that would use far too much power and take up far too much space. it also doesn't have a neural engine since there is no reason for it to exist on a watch. > The same logic inside the chip that lets Apple Watch have such low power > consumptiopn benefits laptops just the same, except they can ramp up the > clock to higher speed and consume more power than a watch. nope. the power budget in a watch is insanely limited, with a battery that's the size of a fingernail. a laptop battery is gigantic in comparison. even a phone battery is huge. > If Apple really splits development of chips into 2 separate development > groups, then the very synergy of the Axx development is lost and Apple > will end up with very costly chips for its Macs with low volume and high > development costs and won't be able to compete against Intel PCs. nonsense, and intel is on the road to self-destruction anyway. > > You are a liar, everyone knows you are a liar. You lied constantly about > > Apple Pay and claimed many many times that Apple Pay had a limit. > > Why do you keep stating I stated Apple Pay had a limit? You know full > well never said that, yet you insisit on lying to try to smear me. you *did* say that. > Apple Pay in Canada is bound to the same limits as all other contactless > cards. that's not what you originally said.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2020-07-26 23:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrhs5k0.99s.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> |
| In reply to | #133784 |
In message <pQjTG.176181$AN2.147718@fx46.iad> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> You are a liar, everyone knows you are a liar. You lied constantly about >> Apple Pay and claimed many many times that Apple Pay had a limit. > Why do you keep stating I stated Apple Pay had a limit? Because you said it DOEZENS of times, perahps HUNDREDS, over the course of mutliple years. > You know full well never said that, yet you insisit on lying to try to > smear me. You smear yourself. > Apple Pay in Canada is bound to the same limits as all other contactless > cards. No it is not, you lying piece of shit. Candain banks put limtis on CANADIAN ACCOUNTS. Period. I have used Apple Pay in Canada many many times in excess of Canadian bank limits. You know why? I am not using a Canadian bank. >> You >> are still WRONGLY claiming that Canada imposes a limit on apple pay, >> which is still wrong. > The limit is on contactless payments. And yes there is a limit and I had > provided you with the URL from various bank sites that confirmed it. yet > you continue to try to smear me for something I had proven YOU were wrong. Your inability to comprehend the simple fact that Canadian banks are IRRELEVANT to using a non-Canadian card really shows just how willfullu ignorant you are. You are wrong now, you were wrong then, you have always been wrong. -- BART BUCKS ARE NOT LEGAL TENDER Bart chalkboard Ep. 8F06
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| From | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-25 18:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <rfikng$g35$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #133745 |
On 7/25/2020 2:44 PM, JF Mezei wrote: <snip> > You are the one who claims they are identical. I asked how, at the > electrical elevel, you can put 80 pins of PCIe into the 20 pins of > Thunderbolt. Still no answer. LOL, did anyone really claim that Thunderbolt and PCI-e are identical?!
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2020-07-26 02:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrhpqsv.2r7t.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> |
| In reply to | #133754 |
In message <rfikng$g35$3@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > On 7/25/2020 2:44 PM, JF Mezei wrote: > <snip> >> You are the one who claims they are identical. I asked how, at the >> electrical elevel, you can put 80 pins of PCIe into the 20 pins of >> Thunderbolt. Still no answer. > LOL, did anyone really claim that Thunderbolt and PCI-e are identical?! Reading comprehension is not his strong suit. -- "You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
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| From | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-23 11:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <rfckn6$du0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #133691 |
On 7/23/2020 1:59 AM, JF Mezei wrote: > On 2020-07-23 00:10, nospam wrote: > >> the mac pro isn't going away, especially since it was *just* updated. > > Recently updated means that it will remain viable for a few more years, > during which OS-X updates for Intel will still be made. We'll see what happens. A Mac Pro that can't dual boot Windows is not going to be a viable product unless the virtualization and emulation is far better than has ever been done in the past. Supporting multiple PCI-E slots is another big challenge.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-07-23 14:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <230720201433031987%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #133695 |
In article <rfckn6$du0$1@dont-email.me>, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > > We'll see what happens. A Mac Pro that can't dual boot Windows is not > going to be a viable product unless the virtualization and emulation is > far better than has ever been done in the past. very few people dual-boot into windows, especially with a mac pro. > Supporting multiple > PCI-E slots is another big challenge. for you, sure. for apple, no.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2020-07-23 20:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrhjre0.i15.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> |
| In reply to | #133695 |
In message <rfckn6$du0$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > On 7/23/2020 1:59 AM, JF Mezei wrote: >> On 2020-07-23 00:10, nospam wrote: >> >>> the mac pro isn't going away, especially since it was *just* updated. >> >> Recently updated means that it will remain viable for a few more years, >> during which OS-X updates for Intel will still be made. > We'll see what happens. A Mac Pro that can't dual boot Windows is not > going to be a viable product That's absurd. You have obviously never used a 2019 Mac Pro. Booting Windows on it would massively degrade the performance of that machine. And the number of people who dual boot macs is a tiny fraction of a single percent, that lack of dual booting will be meaningless to any Mac users (the fringe is less than a rounding error). > Supporting multiple PCI-E slots is another big challenge. No it is not. The things you claim "everyone": cares about are things no one cares about. -- "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-07-23 16:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <230720201652012244%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #133697 |
In article <slrnrhjre0.i15.g.kreme@ProMini.lan>, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <rfckn6$du0$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > > We'll see what happens. A Mac Pro that can't dual boot Windows is not > > going to be a viable product > > That's absurd. You have obviously never used a 2019 Mac Pro. his absurd comments go well beyond a mac pro. they are also deliberate, to troll.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-23 20:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hnu992F13fmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #133695 |
On 2020-07-23, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > On 7/23/2020 1:59 AM, JF Mezei wrote: >> On 2020-07-23 00:10, nospam wrote: >> >>> the mac pro isn't going away, especially since it was *just* updated. >> >> Recently updated means that it will remain viable for a few more years, >> during which OS-X updates for Intel will still be made. > > We'll see what happens. A Mac Pro that can't dual boot Windows is not > going to be a viable product Bullshit. You clearly don't know who buys them. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2020-07-22 00:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrhf1mb.1ggt.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> |
| In reply to | #133679 |
In message <rf7vn1$rb1$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > On 7/21/2020 4:14 PM, JF Mezei wrote: > <snip> >> Ask yourself how Apple could differentiate the Mac Pro from the iMacPro >> if both have the same CPU/GPU, and both support only Thunderbolt for >> expansion. >> >> So the Mac Pro would become a glorified Mac Mini with fancy separate >> display(s). >> >> So it really remains to be seen how Apple will handle the Mac Pro, a low >> volume machine. > True. They have several options: > 1. Do an ARM Mac Pro and design a PCI-E North Bridge companion chip, a > chip not needed on laptops, Mac Mini, or Macbooks. You keep exposing that you do not know what you are talking about. All thunderbolt Macs regardless of form factor support PCIe. Thunderbolt is PCIe. > 2. Do an ARM Mac Pro and have all expansion via Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt is PCIe. -- Ashes to ashes, funk to funky We know Major Tom's a junkie Strung out in heaven's high Hitting an all time low
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-07-22 21:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <i%5SG.4393$RG.2617@fx17.iad> |
| In reply to | #133681 |
On 2020-07-21 20:22, Lewis wrote: > All thunderbolt Macs regardless of form factor support PCIe. Thunderbolt > is PCIe. Thunderbolt can carry serialized PCIe as well as DisplayPort. But thunderbolt is a different hardware controller thus needs different console code to support and scan what is on the Thunderbolt serial bus. And if Apple wants to add a phsysical PCI-e fpr the new Mac pro, it will need to ensure its fancy SoC has the support for a hardware based PCI-e controller. Tunneling PCI-e over thunderbolt only requires thunderbolt hardware support.
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| From | Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-26 11:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <9DhTG.198290$DO2.114426@fx45.iad> |
| In reply to | #133676 |
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes: > On 2020-07-21 16:42, Your Name wrote: > >> I forgot this: >> >> "There is a ARM based super computer - the world's most >> powerful supercomputer, Fugaku, runs on a Fujitsu-designed >> Arm SoC. The existence of this super computer does suggest >> that fears that switching to ARM processors means that >> Apple won't be able to produce adequate workstation >> processors for the Mac Pro [are complete crap]." > > > HP also has/had some ARM servers. However, this doesn't garanbtee a Mac > Pro. For one thing, aving a server farm with thousands of CPU chips is > different than having a high performance machine with a single > multi-core CPU, > > And those servers don't have the issue of Apple moving to in-SoC GPUs. > Would Apple use a SoC with built-in GPU for the Mac Pro? I thought perhaps they'd continue to use GPUs from AMD for that?
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-07-26 12:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <260720201234326089%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #133779 |
In article <9DhTG.198290$DO2.114426@fx45.iad>, Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> wrote: > > Would Apple use a SoC with built-in GPU for the Mac Pro? I thought > perhaps they'd continue to use GPUs from AMD for that? assuming apple can design something better, and all evidence suggests they can, then there's no reason why they would need amd.
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-07-26 14:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4dkTG.118176$Av7.27145@fx34.iad> |
| In reply to | #133779 |
On 2020-07-26 11:50, Bud Frede wrote: > > Would Apple use a SoC with built-in GPU for the Mac Pro? I thought > perhaps they'd continue to use GPUs from AMD for that? That is the big question. Does Apple want to do that, and how much work is needed on a chip to support external GPU on a PCIe, and does continued support of external GPUs hinder Apple's software enhancement of OS-X to make full use of capabilities of its own GPUs that have a memory interconnect. One option would be to have multiple SoC in a Mac pro (so more cores, and more GPUs. But this brings the issue of memory access which becomes a far greater challenge (think about cache coherency inside a chip, but not between chips). And an example: when Digital built its Wildfire Alphas, it learned about NUMA (non uniform memory access) since one CPU trying to access memory controlled by another CPU was much slower than when when accessing its own RAM). This is what lead to the memory controller of EV7 Alphas whose concepts were adopted by AMD and then by Intel with its CSI/QAuickpath whose implememtation was facilited by having all cores in the same chip. The Apple 2009 Xserve, had capacity for 2 separate CPUs (each with multiple cores) and one bank opf RAM controlled by each. So this re-introduced the NUMA problem, though not as bad because of use of CSI/Quickpath that were inspired by EV7 tech. If Apple returns to having multiple chips for the Mac Pro, this re-introduces the issue of NUMA and how to deal with interconnect between the 2 CPUs. IOf they decide to go this route, it would also make possible the addition of sepatate GPUs that are also connected to the RAM so get same functionality as the GPU inside the chip. Apple engineers have undoubtedly considered all of this, especially since PA Semi which they bought was full of ex Alpha engineers. But we have to way for product announcents to see what they have decided.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-27 10:28 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <rfl02j$1bmc$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #133779 |
On 2020-07-26 15:50:28 +0000, Bud Frede said: > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes: >> On 2020-07-21 16:42, Your Name wrote: >>> >>> I forgot this: >>> >>> "There is a ARM based super computer - the world's most >>> powerful supercomputer, Fugaku, runs on a Fujitsu-designed >>> Arm SoC. The existence of this super computer does suggest >>> that fears that switching to ARM processors means that >>> Apple won't be able to produce adequate workstation >>> processors for the Mac Pro [are complete crap]." >> >> HP also has/had some ARM servers. However, this doesn't garanbtee a Mac >> Pro. For one thing, aving a server farm with thousands of CPU chips is >> different than having a high performance machine with a single >> multi-core CPU, >> >> And those servers don't have the issue of Apple moving to in-SoC GPUs. > > Would Apple use a SoC with built-in GPU for the Mac Pro? I thought > perhaps they'd continue to use GPUs from AMD for that? Probably both options, just as they already do on their Intel Macs.
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| From | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-26 19:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <rflchp$of4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #133792 |
On 7/26/2020 3:28 PM, Your Name wrote: > On 2020-07-26 15:50:28 +0000, Bud Frede said: >> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes: >>> On 2020-07-21 16:42, Your Name wrote: >>>> >>>> I forgot this: >>>> >>>> "There is a ARM based super computer - the world's most >>>> powerful supercomputer, Fugaku, runs on a Fujitsu-designed >>>> Arm SoC. The existence of this super computer does suggest >>>> that fears that switching to ARM processors means that >>>> Apple won't be able to produce adequate workstation >>>> processors for the Mac Pro [are complete crap]." >>> >>> HP also has/had some ARM servers. However, this doesn't garanbtee a Mac >>> Pro. For one thing, aving a server farm with thousands of CPU chips is >>> different than having a high performance machine with a single >>> multi-core CPU, >>> >>> And those servers don't have the issue of Apple moving to in-SoC GPUs. >> >> Would Apple use a SoC with built-in GPU for the Mac Pro? I thought >> perhaps they'd continue to use GPUs from AMD for that? > > Probably both options, just as they already do on their Intel Macs. True. So they either have to have a chip with a very fast PCI-E controller or build the PCI-E controller into the CPU. Alternatively, they can have AMD do a GPU that connects to the ARM controller and put a couple of them on the motherboard. But I think we all know what the most likely outcome is going to be, based on what has occurred in the past with iOS devices.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-07-26 22:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <260720202219039366%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #133801 |
In article <rflchp$of4$1@dont-email.me>, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > >> Would Apple use a SoC with built-in GPU for the Mac Pro? I thought > >> perhaps they'd continue to use GPUs from AMD for that? > > > > Probably both options, just as they already do on their Intel Macs. > > True. So they either have to have a chip with a very fast PCI-E > controller or build the PCI-E controller into the CPU. Alternatively, > they can have AMD do a GPU that connects to the ARM controller and put a > couple of them on the motherboard. But I think we all know what the most > likely outcome is going to be, based on what has occurred in the past > with iOS devices. what occurred with ios devices is not relevant.
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| From | Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-27 06:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <H9yTG.164592$RF4.93455@fx43.iad> |
| In reply to | #133792 |
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes: > On 2020-07-26 15:50:28 +0000, Bud Frede said: >> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes: >>> On 2020-07-21 16:42, Your Name wrote: >>>> >>>> I forgot this: >>>> >>>> "There is a ARM based super computer - the world's most >>>> powerful supercomputer, Fugaku, runs on a Fujitsu-designed >>>> Arm SoC. The existence of this super computer does suggest >>>> that fears that switching to ARM processors means that >>>> Apple won't be able to produce adequate workstation >>>> processors for the Mac Pro [are complete crap]." >>> >>> HP also has/had some ARM servers. However, this doesn't garanbtee a Mac >>> Pro. For one thing, aving a server farm with thousands of CPU chips is >>> different than having a high performance machine with a single >>> multi-core CPU, >>> >>> And those servers don't have the issue of Apple moving to in-SoC GPUs. >> >> Would Apple use a SoC with built-in GPU for the Mac Pro? I thought >> perhaps they'd continue to use GPUs from AMD for that? > > Probably both options, just as they already do on their Intel Macs. Yes, although I was specifically referring to the Mac Pro. The GPUs Apple has developed for use in iDevices are certainly quite good, and have more than enough performance for many Mac users as well. I just thought that there might be advantages to continuing to use discrete GPUs from a vendor that is widely used in the industry. I didn't mention Nvidia because Apple doesn't seem to have a workable relationship with them at this time. I didn't mention Intel and its new GPUs because I don't think they're intended for the things Macs are typically used for.
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