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| Started by | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| First post | 2020-06-27 16:49 -0400 |
| Last post | 2020-07-04 20:31 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 519 — 32 participants |
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Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-27 16:49 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-27 17:07 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-27 22:33 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-28 02:45 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-06-27 17:19 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-27 17:48 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-06-27 17:53 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-27 22:35 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-01 15:09 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-01 11:02 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-06-27 18:02 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-27 22:36 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-06-28 06:22 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-28 16:26 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-03 03:51 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-02 20:58 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 02:31 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-03 11:19 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-03 08:29 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 04:06 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 21:13 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-04 01:56 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 00:02 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-04 03:49 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 01:13 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 12:50 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 16:24 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 09:41 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-04 14:01 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 14:07 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 18:35 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-04 15:16 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 17:08 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-04 07:23 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 11:03 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 16:08 +0000
Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 09:16 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-04 15:19 -0400
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 19:36 +0000
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 21:07 +0000
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 14:11 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-05 03:18 +0000
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 04:02 +0000
Arlen is utterly unmoved by facts Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 21:48 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 15:47 -0400
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 14:07 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 17:12 -0400
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 14:15 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 17:22 -0400
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2020-07-04 16:25 -0500
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 14:41 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 21:45 +0000
Arlen makes yet another explicit claim... (wasRe: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs You know who! <no@body.net> - 2020-07-04 14:49 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-05 03:14 +0000
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-09 18:34 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-09 21:52 -0400
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-10 02:56 +0000
Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-09 20:38 -0700
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-11 15:24 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-10 23:35 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 04:24 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 04:36 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-11 10:40 -0700
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-12 12:55 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-12 01:10 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-11 22:36 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-12 04:17 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-13 16:16 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-13 05:43 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-13 21:55 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs delvon daily <delvondaily@example.com> - 2020-07-13 14:37 -0700
OT: Why must Arlen nymshift? (was Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-13 15:13 -0700
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-14 16:07 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 01:22 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-14 21:12 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 19:27 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-15 11:59 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 22:54 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-16 16:37 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-16 18:10 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-17 13:29 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-16 21:45 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-18 22:14 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-18 11:50 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-19 16:07 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 08:17 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-19 14:34 +0200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-20 16:49 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-21 11:31 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-22 12:47 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-21 21:02 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-17 06:41 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-18 22:15 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-18 11:50 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-19 16:11 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 08:17 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-20 16:51 +1200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-21 11:31 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-18 07:18 -0700
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-18 11:50 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-18 21:47 +0200
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 04:51 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs John Michael <tonymayo43@gmail.com> - 2020-07-11 01:30 -0400
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 05:55 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 05:59 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-14 10:11 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-15 17:14 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: xxxxx is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-18 08:37 -0700
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: xxxxx is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-18 18:31 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: xxxxx is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-18 21:01 +0000
Re: Apple profits vs Qualcomm profits (was Re: xxxxx is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-18 20:54 +0000
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-10 15:21 +1200
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-09 20:30 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-09 23:36 -0400
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-09 20:42 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-10 15:44 +1200
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-10 04:18 +0000
Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs For a friend <notyou@yes.yes> - 2020-07-09 21:35 -0700
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-10 01:04 -0400
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-09 22:06 -0700
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-10 01:27 -0400
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-09 23:13 -0700
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-10 14:20 +0000
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-10 10:09 -0700
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-11 15:18 +1200
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 05:00 +0000
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-10 22:34 -0700
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2020-07-12 12:54 +1200
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-12 04:22 +0000
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-12 06:07 +0000
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-10 18:47 +1200
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-10 14:27 +0000
Re: Arlen is a liar. Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-10 14:13 +0000
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-09 23:36 -0400
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-05 10:09 +1200
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 15:10 -0700
Re: Arlen is an idiot Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 23:29 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 16:56 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 21:36 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-05 10:06 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 23:23 +0000
How is it that Arlen can be this thick? Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs He really has no clue <none@all.com> - 2020-07-04 16:52 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2020-07-05 03:25 +0200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 03:08 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 20:27 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 17:21 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 16:59 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 17:12 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 23:57 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2020-07-05 21:15 +0100
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 00:14 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 16:40 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 17:12 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-05 03:22 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-12 10:51 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-12 14:47 -0400
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Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-26 02:49 +0000
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Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-26 14:47 -0400
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Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-26 19:01 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-26 22:19 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-07-27 06:39 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-27 13:30 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-13 23:08 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-13 20:26 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-13 16:41 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-13 20:26 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-14 02:17 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-07-19 11:34 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 12:41 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-20 03:17 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-13 19:29 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-14 09:27 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-13 23:42 +0200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-13 21:47 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-14 11:56 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-14 10:50 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 14:23 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-15 08:39 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-14 21:48 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 21:54 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-14 21:18 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 21:25 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-14 22:06 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 22:21 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-15 02:30 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-15 07:56 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-15 09:02 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-15 09:50 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-15 13:13 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-15 15:42 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-15 15:44 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-16 08:43 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-14 11:45 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-14 10:35 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 14:23 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-15 08:38 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-14 21:10 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-15 08:59 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-14 11:47 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-14 17:42 +0200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-15 08:33 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-14 16:37 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-15 08:55 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-15 22:19 +0200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-16 08:47 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-15 23:10 +0200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-16 14:41 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-07-16 18:44 +0200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-16 10:16 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-16 14:29 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-07-17 08:34 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-13 17:55 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-13 23:19 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-13 20:26 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-14 21:30 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-15 10:05 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-15 13:13 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-23 00:06 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 00:10 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-23 15:34 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 19:06 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-23 19:42 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-07-26 11:56 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-12 16:58 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-12 20:08 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-27 22:30 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-27 19:08 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-06-27 19:11 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-28 02:19 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-28 00:37 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-28 16:20 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-28 12:52 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-28 21:30 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-29 16:45 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-30 04:21 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-01 02:56 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-27 22:41 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-27 19:16 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-28 00:26 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-28 00:30 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-28 02:25 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-28 03:05 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-28 12:44 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-06-29 11:51 +1200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-06-29 08:29 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-29 13:00 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-06-29 11:10 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-29 10:00 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-29 17:30 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-06-29 19:14 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-29 21:16 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-29 19:41 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-06-29 15:55 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-29 13:53 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-29 21:16 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-29 14:32 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-30 04:19 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 04:31 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-01 10:06 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-01 16:21 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-01 16:56 +0000
Why does Arlen always lose? Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Not Arlen <whodat@ness.biz> - 2020-07-01 10:40 -0700
Re: Why does Arlen always lose? Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs John Doe <always.look@message.header> - 2020-07-02 03:46 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-01 13:09 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-01 10:37 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-01 19:13 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-01 15:40 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-01 12:45 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-01 21:27 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-03 11:47 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 09:11 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-03 17:21 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 10:29 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-03 15:49 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 13:56 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-03 20:59 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-04 10:32 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-04 23:43 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2020-07-05 08:59 +0200
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 15:52 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 15:43 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-04 14:18 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-05 17:14 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 16:26 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-03 16:50 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-03 21:17 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 13:55 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-01 15:46 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-01 12:51 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 02:25 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-03 01:11 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 15:51 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-03 21:12 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 00:31 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-03 20:54 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 03:18 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-03 23:50 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 12:40 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-07-04 10:34 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-04 11:03 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 16:00 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 16:19 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 20:27 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-05 16:46 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-05 17:49 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-06 02:09 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-03 14:41 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-01 10:33 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-01 19:15 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-29 21:16 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-29 14:27 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-29 09:15 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-29 16:59 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-29 16:53 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 04:53 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2020-06-30 08:14 -0500
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-06-30 10:51 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 19:37 +0000
OT: Why must Arlen constantly lie? (was Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Just for Arlen <justforarlen@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-30 13:57 -0700
Re: OT: Why must Arlen constantly lie? (was Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-01 16:55 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 17:48 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2020-06-30 13:09 -0500
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-30 11:25 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 19:07 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Especially for Arlen <especiallyforarlen@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-30 13:59 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-12-02 04:59 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Leonardo Pacheco <lpacheco72@gmail.com> - 2020-07-28 23:58 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-29 09:47 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-29 08:38 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 04:44 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 04:49 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 05:02 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-07-01 12:27 -0700
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-01 15:41 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 02:18 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-01 21:32 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-03 02:01 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-03 14:43 +0000
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-07-04 15:36 -0400
Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-07-04 20:31 +0000
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| Date | 2020-07-14 15:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rel14t$sbu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #133500 |
On 2020-07-13 22:36:10 +0000, JF Mezei said: > If all Macs will use an SoC. For fixed config Macbook, Mini and iMac, > the SoC makes sense and none have expansion slots and just rely on a > thunderbolt/USB bus. Will adding support for external variable configs > on PCI-express, adding SATA support for internal drives make sense > because that would require an SoC with those pins that go to the > PCIexpress bus. Arm servers. With PCIe slots. Lots of slots, too. Who'd'a thunk it. https://www.servethehome.com/marvell-thunderx3-arm-server-cpu-with-768-threads-in-2020/ What Apple might have planned here for designs and features and storage, we shall learn. It may well include byte-addressable persistent memory and we're already seeing NVMe, so... why keep around older gear. Oh, and you can hang a PCIe card cage hanging off a MacBook Pro or Mac mini or pretty much anything else with a Thunderbolt, because, well, Thunderbolt. https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/Thunderbolt/PCIe_Chassis/Mercury_Helios Then there's the confusion factory that has been and probably will continue to be the USB specs and the USB-C connectors, soon with the extra added "fun" of USB4 and Thunderbolt 4. We'll see what that turns into, and we'll see how good or how bad some of the USB4 products produced might be. Some of the current USB gear is utter trash. Some isn't. > Also, remember that Apple is moving to ots own proprietary boot > console, so it woudl need to support such variable configs with PCI > express cards and what not just for one model. Certaintly doable, but > worth the cost? An outfit having their own console firmware, with that console able to execute embedded x86 code from third-party PCIe boot ROM code, and all that running with their own microprocessor architecture and designs, and where some of those microprocessor designs were SOCs? DEC. You might have heard of them before, of course. But we'll find out what products Apple has planned as it's announced, same as usual. -- Pure Personal Opinion | HoffmanLabs LLC
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-07-14 21:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <djtPG.95698$RF4.45241@fx43.iad> |
| In reply to | #133539 |
On 2020-07-14 15:30, Stephen Hoffman wrote: > An outfit having their own console firmware, with that console able to > execute embedded x86 code from third-party PCIe boot ROM code, and all > that running with their own microprocessor architecture and designs, > and where some of those microprocessor designs were SOCs? DEC. You > might have heard of them before, of course. But Apple won't have to worry about having to run a graphic's card x86 code to initizlise it since Apple will have its own GPUs.
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| From | Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-07-15 15:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <renl9d$osm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #133551 |
On 2020-07-15 01:52:09 +0000, JF Mezei said: > On 2020-07-14 15:30, Stephen Hoffman wrote: > >> An outfit having their own console firmware, with that console able to >> execute embedded x86 code from third-party PCIe boot ROM code, and all >> that running with their own microprocessor architecture and designs, >> and where some of those microprocessor designs were SOCs? DEC. You >> might have heard of them before, of course. > > But Apple won't have to worry about having to run a graphic's card x86 > code to initizlise it since Apple will have its own GPUs. You were commenting on the difficulty of a vendor having a console program, and a microprocessor architecture, and PCIe support. DEC did all that and a very long time ago. Apple is certainly capable, too. Having just had a wonderful tussle with a RAID controller and its ROM-based configuration program, there's rather more found on PCIe bus than graphics devices. As you well know. EFI bytecode (EBC) isn't endemic, which means interpreting x86 code for some widgets and platforms. And we don't know details around the production Apple Silicon boot support, whether x86 or EBC or otherwise. Nor do we know about what I/O buses Apple might choose for the Apple Silicon Arm Macs, though USB4 is almost certainly among those, and Thunderbolt and PCIe connectivity seems plausible on mid- or upper-end Mac systems. But we do have evidence that a custom console program and custom silicon and PCIe support is entirely possible. And we know that Apple has code that can process x86-64 instructions into Arm instructions. -- Pure Personal Opinion | HoffmanLabs LLC
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-07-15 15:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <25JPG.28699$Py5.3764@fx25.iad> |
| In reply to | #133578 |
On 2020-07-15 15:26, Stephen Hoffman wrote: > > But we do have evidence that a custom console program and custom > silicon and PCIe support is entirely possible. And we know that Apple > has code that can process x86-64 instructions into Arm instructions. Not "entirely possible". It was confirmed in te Platform State of the Union. Apple is using its "Secure Boot" used on IOS for the new ARM based Macs. So as you said, it depends on how much work they intend to do to add siupport for buses and devices. Apple has stated that the new Macs will be able to boot from an external drive, so this means the console needs to have the logic to scan devices to find bootable ones. It also depends n how much versatility the new Macs will have. If they drop PCI-e and only go Thunderbolt/USB, then all the Macs will be closed"soldered with any expansion happning outside. (cue discussion on future of MacPro).
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| From | Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-07-20 12:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rf4g8c$ngv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #133581 |
On 2020-07-15 19:49:17 +0000, JF Mezei said: > On 2020-07-15 15:26, Stephen Hoffman wrote: >> >> But we do have evidence that a custom console program and custom >> silicon and PCIe support is entirely possible. And we know that Apple >> has code that can process x86-64 instructions into Arm instructions. > > Not "entirely possible". Yes. Possible. With DEC. As was the antecedent mentioned in the cited post, though that details was omitted in the above-chosen quote. That with a DEC console (SRM, and earlier VAX consoles), and DEC Alpha processor and earlier VAX processors, and with PCI-related support (Alpha), and on Alpha and VAX servers. Unless you here want to argue that PCIe and PCI-X are an insurmountable difference, of course. What Apple has plans to offer for hardware support, we shall learn. And what third-party vendors might offer with DriverKit, too. https://developer.apple.com/system-extensions/ But we do have an example of a vendor having implemented a custom console, custom processor silicon, and PCI x86 ROM support. -- Pure Personal Opinion | HoffmanLabs LLC
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2020-07-20 20:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrhbug1.2hlg.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> |
| In reply to | #133652 |
In message <rf4g8c$ngv$1@dont-email.me> Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> wrote: > What Apple has plans to offer for hardware support, we shall learn. Thunderbolt (which means PCIe, DisplayPort, and Power). Thunderbolt also means USB, but that is a subset of its PCIe support). -- Slab: Jus' say 'AarrghaarrghpleeassennononoUGH'. --Feet of Clay
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-07-20 16:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vvnRG.90523$5_4.38954@fx40.iad> |
| In reply to | #133652 |
On 2020-07-20 12:20, Stephen Hoffman wrote: >> Not "entirely possible". > > Yes. Possible. > What Apple has plans to offer for hardware support, we shall learn. What I was trying to say is that Apple has already confirmed that the console for ARM-based Macs will be based on the console built for iPhones/iPads (called Secure Boot). This was confirmed in the Platform State of the Union. For laptops and iMacs, we know it will support booting from external drive (so booting from Thunderbolt or USB would be added). Doing so will require disabling security flags in the console. What is known is that the SoC will include an apple GPU that will have direct access to RAM. While OS-X has support for external GPUs via PCI-e, it remains to be seen whether Apple will want to add such support in the console to allow boot with display on PCI-e based GPU. (This has to do more with the Mac Pro as other models will work fine with the GPU in the SoC and have no available PCI-E. It is also possible Apple will just support thunderbolt for expansion, including external GPUs. (but that would still require console support wouldn't it if the initial boot drives a display connected to a thunderbolt connected GPU).
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| From | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-21 10:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <rf7989$lco$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #133655 |
On 7/20/2020 1:53 PM, JF Mezei wrote: <snip> > It is also possible Apple will just support thunderbolt for expansion, > including external GPUs. (but that would still require console support > wouldn't it if the initial boot drives a display connected to a > thunderbolt connected GPU). That would make the most sense. Designing a chipset that supports PCI-E devices for additional video cards is difficult and unnecessary. Just require Thunderbolt displays for the Mac Pro if they do an ARM version of it.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-07-21 14:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <210720201445257008%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #133658 |
In article <rf7989$lco$1@dont-email.me>, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > > It is also possible Apple will just support thunderbolt for expansion, > > including external GPUs. (but that would still require console support > > wouldn't it if the initial boot drives a display connected to a > > thunderbolt connected GPU). > > That would make the most sense. Designing a chipset that supports PCI-E > devices for additional video cards is difficult and unnecessary. nonsense. > Just > require Thunderbolt displays for the Mac Pro if they do an ARM version > of it. *when* there's an apple silicon mac pro, not if, which will obviously have pci slots and almost certainly use the same enclosure as the existing mac pro.
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-07-21 16:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <H9IRG.76770$zX4.71653@fx41.iad> |
| In reply to | #133659 |
On 2020-07-21 14:45, nospam wrote: > *when* there's an apple silicon mac pro, not if, which will obviously > have pci slots and almost certainly use the same enclosure as the > existing mac pro. The 2013 MacPro did not reuse the cabinet from the 2012 MacPro (a cabinet which had spanned a number of generations). You seem confident a new Mac Pro will support PCI-e and all sorts of external cards. It is not yet clear to me that Apple will want to support 3rd party GPUs on PCI-e when Apple will have GPUs embedded in its SoC chips. While OS-X currently supports them, it is not clear Apple wants this support forever because its embeded GPUs will have DMA and not require external data transfers via PCI-e and Apple won't want to hiunder new function permitted by integration of GPU with CPU because of continued need to support "legacy" external GPUs. So it remains to be seen.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-07-21 16:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <210720201644446518%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #133664 |
In article <H9IRG.76770$zX4.71653@fx41.iad>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > > *when* there's an apple silicon mac pro, not if, which will obviously > > have pci slots and almost certainly use the same enclosure as the > > existing mac pro. > > The 2013 MacPro did not reuse the cabinet from the 2012 MacPro (a > cabinet which had spanned a number of generations). nobody said it did. apple *just* redesigned the 2019 mac pro *with* pci slots, knowing full well that apple silicon macs were coming. they're not going to discard that design so quickly.
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| From | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-21 15:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <rf7pa2$rnb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #133664 |
On 7/21/2020 1:24 PM, JF Mezei wrote: <snip> > The 2013 MacPro did not reuse the cabinet from the 2012 MacPro (a > cabinet which had spanned a number of generations). > > You seem confident a new Mac Pro will support PCI-e and all sorts of > external cards. It is not yet clear to me that Apple will want to > support 3rd party GPUs on PCI-e when Apple will have GPUs embedded > in its SoC chips. While OS-X currently supports them, it is not > clear Apple wants this support forever because its embeded GPUs will > have DMA and not require external data transfers via PCI-e and Apple > won't want to hiunder new function permitted by integration of GPU > with CPU because of continued need to support "legacy" external > GPUs. > > So it remains to be seen. True. There are a lot of issues to consider. Developing a PCI-E chipset will be in addition to the CPU development. If you want to drive 8K monitors then Thunderbolt 3 isn't fast enough, you need PCI-E. PCI-E on ARM has been done in the past, at least the older, slower versions of PCI-E. The Marvell MV78230 supported PCI-E 2.0. Other companies have tried ARM SOCs for servers with PCI-E. Given the relatively low quantities of Mac Pro systems that are sold, putting a lot of resources into chip design and fabrication, just to support third-party PCI-E graphics cards, may not be worth it. Perhaps they can use a north bridge from the x86 world if they want to support PCI-E on the Mac Pro.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-07-21 18:38 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <210720201838165277%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #133669 |
In article <rf7pa2$rnb$1@dont-email.me>, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > > There are a lot of issues to consider. Developing a PCI-E chipset will > be in addition to the CPU development. If you want to drive 8K monitors > then Thunderbolt 3 isn't fast enough, you need PCI-E. pci-e is not needed for 8k, which isn't even a priority anyway. > PCI-E on ARM has been done in the past, at least the older, slower > versions of PCI-E. The Marvell MV78230 supported PCI-E 2.0. Other > companies have tried ARM SOCs for servers with PCI-E. what's been done in the past by other companies is not relevant. > Given the relatively low quantities of Mac Pro systems that are sold, > putting a lot of resources into chip design and fabrication, just to > support third-party PCI-E graphics cards, may not be worth it. Perhaps > they can use a north bridge from the x86 world if they want to support > PCI-E on the Mac Pro. perhaps you can stop talking about things you don't understand. there is *no* reason why apple would use a northbridge from the x86 world in an apple silicon mac.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2020-07-21 22:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrhesfo.1abl.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> |
| In reply to | #133669 |
In message <rf7pa2$rnb$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > On 7/21/2020 1:24 PM, JF Mezei wrote: > <snip> >> The 2013 MacPro did not reuse the cabinet from the 2012 MacPro (a >> cabinet which had spanned a number of generations). >> >> You seem confident a new Mac Pro will support PCI-e and all sorts of >> external cards. It is not yet clear to me that Apple will want to <snip> >> So it remains to be seen. > True. Not really. > There are a lot of issues to consider. Developing a PCI-E chipset will > be in addition to the CPU development. If you want to drive 8K monitors > then Thunderbolt 3 isn't fast enough, you need PCI-E. Apple has already announced new machines will support Thunderbolt, and that means PCIe, so this is not a question *at all*. -- If the #2 pencil is the most popular, why is it still #2?
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-22 08:28 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <rf7j5q$213$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #133658 |
On 2020-07-21 17:39:19 +0000, sms said: > On 7/20/2020 1:53 PM, JF Mezei wrote: > > <snip> > >> It is also possible Apple will just support thunderbolt for expansion, >> including external GPUs. (but that would still require console support >> wouldn't it if the initial boot drives a display connected to a >> thunderbolt connected GPU). > > That would make the most sense. Designing a chipset that supports PCI-E > devices for additional video cards is difficult and unnecessary. Just > require Thunderbolt displays for the Mac Pro if they do an ARM version > of it. It's not "if", it's "when". Apple *is* moving *all* Macs to Apple Silicon.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-22 08:42 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <rf7jvf$c0p$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #133665 |
On 2020-07-21 20:28:44 +0000, Your Name said:
> On 2020-07-21 17:39:19 +0000, sms said:
>> On 7/20/2020 1:53 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> It is also possible Apple will just support thunderbolt for expansion,
>>> including external GPUs. (but that would still require console support
>>> wouldn't it if the initial boot drives a display connected to a
>>> thunderbolt connected GPU).
>>
>> That would make the most sense. Designing a chipset that supports PCI-E
>> devices for additional video cards is difficult and unnecessary. Just
>> require Thunderbolt displays for the Mac Pro if they do an ARM version
>> of it.
>
> It's not "if", it's "when".
> Apple *is* moving *all* Macs to Apple Silicon.
I forgot this:
"There is a ARM based super computer - the world's most
powerful supercomputer, Fugaku, runs on a Fujitsu-designed
Arm SoC. The existence of this super computer does suggest
that fears that switching to ARM processors means that
Apple won't be able to produce adequate workstation
processors for the Mac Pro [are complete crap]."
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| From | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-21 15:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <rf7pnc$trp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #133667 |
On 7/21/2020 1:42 PM, Your Name wrote: <snip> > I forgot this: > > "There is a ARM based super computer - the world's most > powerful supercomputer, Fugaku, runs on a Fujitsu-designed > Arm SoC. The existence of this super computer does suggest > that fears that switching to ARM processors means that > Apple won't be able to produce adequate workstation > processors for the Mac Pro [are complete crap]." LOL. "Fugaku uses 158,976 A64FX CPUs joined together using Fujitsu's propietary torus fusion interconnect." It also draws about 900,000 watts. It cost right around $1 billion.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-07-21 18:38 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <210720201838185344%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #133670 |
In article <rf7pnc$trp$1@dont-email.me>, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > > > > "There is a ARM based super computer - the world's most > > powerful supercomputer, Fugaku, runs on a Fujitsu-designed > > Arm SoC. The existence of this super computer does suggest > > that fears that switching to ARM processors means that > > Apple won't be able to produce adequate workstation > > processors for the Mac Pro [are complete crap]." > > LOL. "Fugaku uses 158,976 A64FX CPUs joined together using Fujitsu's > propietary torus fusion interconnect." It also draws about 900,000 > watts. It cost right around $1 billion. it shows what arm can do when taken to the limits. anyone who thinks the apple silicon transition is just for low end macs hasn't thought things through, or has an agenda.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-22 11:17 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <rf7t26$1usm$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #133670 |
On 2020-07-21 22:20:26 +0000, sms said: > On 7/21/2020 1:42 PM, Your Name wrote: > > <snip> > >> I forgot this: >> >> "There is a ARM based super computer - the world's most >> powerful supercomputer, Fugaku, runs on a Fujitsu-designed >> Arm SoC. The existence of this super computer does suggest >> that fears that switching to ARM processors means that >> Apple won't be able to produce adequate workstation >> processors for the Mac Pro [are complete crap]." > > LOL. "Fugaku uses 158,976 A64FX CPUs joined together using Fujitsu's > propietary torus fusion interconnect." It also draws about 900,000 > watts. It cost right around $1 billion. Because it's a *super*computer ... not a desktop computer. But it proves the point, an ARM supercomputer exists, so you can and will make a Mac Pro as it moves its *entire* lineup to Apple Silicon over the next couple of years. If you want to continue to blindly believe otherwise, then you're completely deluded and just another moron gladly to add to the killfile.
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-07-21 19:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <sFKRG.109329$Av7.67917@fx34.iad> |
| In reply to | #133667 |
On 2020-07-21 16:42, Your Name wrote: > I forgot this: > > "There is a ARM based super computer - the world's most > powerful supercomputer, Fugaku, runs on a Fujitsu-designed > Arm SoC. The existence of this super computer does suggest > that fears that switching to ARM processors means that > Apple won't be able to produce adequate workstation > processors for the Mac Pro [are complete crap]." HP also has/had some ARM servers. However, this doesn't garanbtee a Mac Pro. For one thing, aving a server farm with thousands of CPU chips is different than having a high performance machine with a single multi-core CPU, And those servers don't have the issue of Apple moving to in-SoC GPUs. Ask yourself how Apple could differentiate the Mac Pro from the iMacPro if both have the same CPU/GPU, and both support only Thunderbolt for expansion. So the Mac Pro would become a glorified Mac Mini with fancy separate display(s). So it really remains to be seen how Apple will handle the Mac Pro, a low volume machine.
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