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| Started by | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| First post | 2019-01-20 04:38 +0000 |
| Last post | 2019-07-29 05:33 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 269 — 28 participants |
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Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 04:38 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-20 06:19 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 07:19 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 09:31 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 09:21 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 11:15 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 11:27 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 12:12 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 13:05 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 14:02 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 15:33 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 22:00 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-20 17:17 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 23:15 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 21:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 23:14 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-01-20 14:31 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 22:15 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-20 12:15 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 13:26 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-21 06:15 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 21:44 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-21 14:05 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 23:33 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-22 00:37 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 01:52 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-22 06:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-21 23:40 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-22 01:56 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 08:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-22 01:16 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 02:56 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-22 19:02 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-22 22:06 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-23 07:36 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-23 09:56 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-23 19:52 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 07:02 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 07:28 +0000
Re:Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 09:17 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 09:03 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 12:03 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 12:15 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 11:42 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 12:26 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 12:39 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 13:55 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 13:40 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 15:01 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 14:27 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-01-20 14:31 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 14:37 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 03:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 11:15 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 21:44 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 23:30 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 07:56 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 13:58 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 14:33 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 01:06 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 11:11 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 21:44 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-21 14:06 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 22:59 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 23:57 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 22:56 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 02:45 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Eric Ericksen <ee@buzz.example> - 2019-01-21 22:00 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 06:08 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-22 10:29 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-21 19:20 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 08:26 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-20 05:42 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 12:07 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-20 06:29 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 11:58 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 13:46 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 13:59 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 04:46 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2019-01-21 12:03 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-21 18:39 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-01-21 19:13 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 14:47 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 20:43 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 21:44 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 17:30 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-22 01:33 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 20:38 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 02:15 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 21:19 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 04:22 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Troi <ferengi@starman.com.invalid> - 2019-01-21 22:29 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-21 23:17 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 02:30 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-22 18:56 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 01:08 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-23 10:55 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 20:21 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-23 15:29 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 20:33 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-23 16:01 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:38 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:17 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:45 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 19:13 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 07:30 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 02:29 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 09:03 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 08:07 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 11:50 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 21:19 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 21:42 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 07:38 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-23 10:02 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 11:28 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 19:40 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 14:05 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 20:36 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:31 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-23 19:53 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-22 10:33 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-22 03:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 04:21 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 23:38 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-22 04:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-22 01:34 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 04:40 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-26 09:53 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-26 09:41 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 08:08 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 07:10 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-29 09:33 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-30 03:04 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-26 16:55 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Lloyd Parsons <email@domain.com> - 2019-01-26 11:43 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-26 21:32 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 17:16 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-27 17:28 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 08:09 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 07:16 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-29 09:42 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 16:54 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 13:04 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 19:26 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2019-01-30 08:02 +0200
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-22 06:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-22 16:45 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-01-22 19:12 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-01-22 19:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-01-22 20:18 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-01-23 08:58 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-01-23 19:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-22 22:36 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-01-22 17:12 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 12:23 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-01-20 18:02 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 13:28 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 03:08 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Ed Norton <norton@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-20 04:54 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-23 22:51 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-23 23:31 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-01-24 15:52 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-01-24 18:34 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 04:37 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 23:43 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 06:35 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 01:30 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 07:36 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 07:40 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 07:46 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 02:27 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 15:39 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 22:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 18:49 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2019-01-26 21:39 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 06:54 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 02:46 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 02:21 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 13:23 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 22:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 18:53 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 18:30 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 12:59 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 19:06 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 13:40 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-27 19:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 19:57 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-27 20:02 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 14:21 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2019-01-27 16:32 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 15:03 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 14:14 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 12:49 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2019-01-26 14:53 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-26 11:42 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-26 21:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 02:16 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-26 09:32 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 02:39 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-26 10:03 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 22:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 18:21 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 22:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 18:24 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-27 00:43 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 19:09 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 14:05 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-28 00:52 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 17:14 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-28 01:48 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-27 00:26 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-27 00:39 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 22:06 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-26 16:12 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 19:09 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 13:58 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 12:56 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-26 17:19 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 22:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-28 00:08 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 19:26 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 22:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-26 19:17 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2019-01-26 18:51 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2019-01-26 18:59 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 19:08 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 13:55 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 12:50 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-27 15:55 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 15:02 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 08:05 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 07:08 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-29 10:29 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 17:18 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 13:21 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-29 15:26 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 22:03 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-01 10:29 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 18:26 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 08:12 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 07:19 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-01 10:29 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-26 09:48 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 23:46 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-27 08:19 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 10:59 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 13:38 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 20:00 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 14:18 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 12:51 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 07:58 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 06:56 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 17:18 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-29 09:24 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 13:28 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-01 10:30 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2019-01-24 13:24 +1100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-23 19:56 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 06:22 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-29 09:14 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-29 10:45 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 06:50 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 17:18 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-29 09:23 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 19:26 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-29 14:32 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-29 17:03 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2019-01-30 08:07 +0200
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Arlen G. Holder" <arlingholder@nospam.net> - 2019-07-29 05:33 +0000
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| Subject | Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? |
| Message-ID | <q20tvb$8vi$1@news.mixmin.net> |
What prompted this is the news today that 773 million emails are pwned. Please _improve_ our tribal knowledge on the three issues: A. How to check if you've been pwned. B. What software to use to encrypt your passwd database. C. What sync method to use to synchronize on the home LAN. QUESTION: Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? REQUEST: If so, can you explain what you found that works well to sync the db? DETAILS: As you're likely aware, a researcher kindly consolidated a pwned db: <http://haveibeenpwned.com> Where I won't delve into the details which are in the news recently: <https://www.consumerreports.org/privacy/consumers-had-email-and-passwords-exposed/> My suggestion is two steps, the second of which prompted this question. STEP 1: Check if you've been pwned. The "safest" way I know to check is to use the official Tor Browser. And only check a single email address per session (for obvious reasons). (If you use any other browser - then you already lost the privacy game.) STEP 2: Set up some kind of encrypted password database mechanism: I already have KeePass PC setup but I don't yet sync it across the LAN. I also don't use it on Android/iOS but I will start so that's why I ask. Hence this question has a few parts: PART1: Software for each of the common consumer platforms PART2: Sync methods across all common consumer platforms For PART1, the software, here's my first pass at the best freeware: (Please add _better_ alternatives as I make no claim of expertise.) (These are simply from a Google search so I ask for your knowledge.) *Linux*: o <https://sourceforge.net/projects/keepass/files/latest/download? o ? *Windows*: o <https://keepass.info/download.html> o ? *Mac*: o https://sourceforge.net/projects/keepass/files/latest/download o ? *Android*: o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.android.keepass> o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=keepass2android.keepass2android> *iOS*: o <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/keepass-touch/id966759076> o <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/minikeepass/id451661808> For Part2, the "sync", I'll post a followup as I need to look up how. SUMMARY: *Please _improve_ our tribal knowledge on the three issues:* A. How best to check if you've been pwned. B. What software to use to encrypt your passwd database. C. What sync method to use to synchronize on your home LAN.
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| From | Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 06:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q213t0$ogl$1@gonzo.alcatraz> |
| In reply to | #120824 |
On 2019-01-20, someone making the false claim to be arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> lied thusly: > What prompted this is the news today that 773 million emails are pwned. Slow news day. > QUESTION: > Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, > Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? I have no idea what you mean. that question can be taken at-least three different ways. -- When I tried casting out nines I made a hash of it.
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 07:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q217du$olb$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #120825 |
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 06:19:12 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts wrote: >> What prompted this is the news today that 773 million emails are pwned. > Slow news day. Hi Jasen Betts, That's kind of funny ... but expected ... since we know you rather well. That comment indicates you missed what's _different_ about that news. Look at it again. Read it. Read it twice. Maybe even three times. Let us know if you figured it out on your own, Jason. (If not, come back here to ask for compressive help - we'll clue you in.) Even so, the key unresolved question for this thread is (IMHO), not how to check if you've been pwned (since I provided how to check); nor is the key unanswered question how to maintain an electronic database on any common consumer OS (I suggested KeePass). In both those questions, all I ask is for IMPROVEMENTS to the answer I already provided, where those improvements can only come from intelligent & experienced people (i.e., not you, Jason). The most important UNANSWERED question, though, Jason, is how intelligent knowledgeable experts on these newsgroup devised a reasonable method to sync the passwd.kdbx file on the local LAN without placing that passwd file on the Internet. If you, Jason Betts, or anyone else who reads this, has both the intelligence and experience to figure out a nice mechanism for syncing that file on the home databsae - then THAT is what this thread aims to resolve. Again, you, Jason Betts, didn't even comprehend the problem set, so I doubt you will be able to help us - but SOMEONE else who reads this will not only comprehend the problem set, but they might also be intelligent enough to have devised a working solution to the main unanswered problem: *HELP: What is a good way for the average user to sync the* *passwd.kdbx file on their local LAN comprised of Windows,* *Linux, Mac, iOS, and Android devices?* >> Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, >> Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? > > I have no idea what you mean. that question can be taken at-least three > different ways. Hi Jason, Since you didn't comprehend how the news today is _different, then it's obvious that you can't possibly comprehend the questions asked. For one, I've already chosen "KeePass" as my electronic passwd database; but others might not have already chosen their preferred tool. Hence part of the question was asking experienced people (i.e., not you), what intelligent experienced people prefer as their vipw command. For example, on the PC (Windows or Linux), to edit the password file, I simply type "vipw" and press the ENTER key. For example, on Windows: o Start > Run > vipw <ENTER> That brings up KeePass with the database, since I use the "App Paths" key: o HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\vipw.exe Which simply points to my KeePass executable or to the database, e.g., o Default = c:\app\editor\passwd\keepass\KeePass.exe Or... o Default = c:\data\editor\passwd\keepass\passwd.kdbx NOTE: Either way works the same if you have only one password file. The question becomes a bit more difficult to answer (i.e., you won't be able to help us, Jason. It's not an insult. It's stating facts bluntly) when you consider that a user wishes to automatically synchronize that PC-based password file with the mobile devices and other desktops. Most (dumb, IMHO) mechanisms use a Dropbox-like synchronization, which, IMHO, is about as sophomoric as can be devised (particularly when it's a password file we're talking about). Obviously, the more intelligent approach is to maintain the single database file on the users personal LAN. While you don't comprehend something as simple as that, Jason, most other readers probably will. Hence, the question that is the hardest to adequately answer (IMHO), is how to synchronize the passwd.kdbx file on all platforms on the users' personal LAN? For example, this sophomoric (IMHO) mechanism suggests DropBox: o How to Use KeePass on Android and iOS <https://www.guidingtech.com/51929/use-keepass-android-ios/> And this just-as-sophomoric (IMHO) mechanism suggests Google Drive: o KeePass on Android and Windows Synced Using Google Drive <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-txzWZhZm9c> The more intelligent way to sync a file on the local LAN, IMHO, is to use a mechanism that does NOT place your passwd file on the Internet. That's the key unanswered question for this thread to resolve.
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| From | Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 09:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <q21blv$pih$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #120827 |
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> Wrote in message: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 06:19:12 > The more intelligent way to sync a file on the local LAN, IMHO, > is to use a mechanism that does NOT place your passwd file > on the Internet. > Sure, why to put it on internet for exclusive LAN only syncing ? But not all sync scenarios can be limited to a single LAN . If the pw DB cannot withstand internet exposure, its encryption is weak and such DB should not be used at all. -- Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer) "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity." Miloš Forman ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 09:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q21ejh$49h$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #120830 |
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 09:31:56 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Libor Striz wrote: > Sure, why to put it on internet for exclusive LAN only syncing ? Hi Poutnik, Thank you for your advice - which is very helpful! I know you, from years of experience, to be purposefully helpful. I don't know what you mean by that sentence above. To clarify, I _know_ most people would opt to sync over the Internet. They'd use, for example, a Dropbox-like solution such as "iCloud". Then, they'd automate that with something like, oh, say, FolderSync: o <https://www.tacit.dk/foldersync/> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.tacit.android.foldersync.lite> We _could_ do the same using our personal LAN, but it turns out, unfortunately, most of the servers only work on Linux. That's fine if you have Linux running full time, or if you set up a $35 raspberry pi as your cloud server as we discussed in this recent thread: o Can we come up with a free, ad free, cloud-free calendaring system that works with Windows and Linux and mobile devices? < https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/ydQ9sG-8Y08> But most people won't set up their own $35 cloud server on their home LAN. > But not all sync scenarios can be limited to a single LAN . Hi Poutnik, I agree - but - let's restrict the INITIAL solution to the typical home LAN, which generally has desktops and mobile devices all connected over Ethernet & WiFi tied together at a SOHO router. > If the pw DB cannot withstand internet exposure, its encryption > is weak and such DB should not be used at all. Hi Poutnik, I agree with you that KeePass needs to have secure encryption, but I also point out that there's a HUGE difference between protecting a passwd file and protecting, oh, say, a photo or a contact list. o For a photo, most of us wouldn't care all that much about the security o For a personal calendar, the security needs might go up a bit o But for a passwd file - the security needs are pretty high What I'm saying is that I agree with you that the encryption that keepass uses "should" be robust - but - still - there's nothing bad about getting into the habit of keeping your private information OFF the Internet. In general, I keep personal files OFF the Internet - where - to me - a passwd file has no business being ON the Internet. The only rationale I can see for putting a passwd file on the Internet is laziness. That is, coming up with a private LAN sharing solution takes effort. That's what this thread is (mostly) about. *How to share a single master passwd.kdbx file on the users network.*
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| From | Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 11:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <q21hoa$oum$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #120832 |
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> Wrote in message: > > >> Sure, why to put it on internet for exclusive LAN only syncing ? > > > I don't know what you mean by that sentence above. it is easy. Syncing over LAN > keep it on LAN. Syncing over WAN > keep it (eventually just temporarily for sync session) on WAN. > > To clarify, I _know_ most people would opt to sync over the Internet. > They'd use, for example, a Dropbox-like solution such as "iCloud". > > Then, they'd automate that with something like, oh, say, FolderSync: > o <https://www.tacit.dk/foldersync/> Such solutions provide just file syncing, what is different to PW record synching for KDBX files. > > We _could_ do the same using our personal LAN, but it turns out, > unfortunately, most of the servers only work on Linux. If just LAN file sharing is set, no need for a server . > >> But not all sync scenarios can be limited to a single LAN . > >let's restrict the INITIAL solution to the typical > home LAN, which generally has desktops and mobile devices > all connected over Ethernet & WiFi tied together at a SOHO router. I would go for LAN file sharing. It is IMHO the most available method. If direct access to LAN resources is not possible, I would go for a LAN file sync utility and do DB Syncing against local copy. For Android, my favourites are SyncMe Wireless Total Commander LAN access. > In general, I keep personal files OFF the Internet - where - to me - a > passwd file has no business being ON the Internet. If you need not it to be there, then it is true. > The only rationale I can see for putting a passwd file on the Internet is > laziness. What is indeed valid for LAN only reducible scenarios. But if you have a workstation you are not allowed to connect any portable storage, it is not laziness. > > *How to share a single master passwd.kdbx file on the users network.* The same way as any other file. But would rather avoid *single* shared file for 2 reasons. 1/data security in case of curruption. Even if it would be regularly backed up, it is easy to be done too late, especially for backups to independent storage device. 2) possible write access conflicts over a single file. I prefer star-like configuration of multiple local DB file instances, all synced to a "central" file. . In LAN scenario, the central file would be just an extra file at one of location on desktop, so 2 files, local and central file would be on such a machine. In my case, the central file is permanent or temporary cloud WebDAV location. -- Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer) "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity." Miloš Forman ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 11:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q21luk$g4n$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #120834 |
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 11:15:35 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Libor Striz wrote: > If just LAN file sharing is set, no need for a server . Hi Poutnik, Thanks for the purposefully helpful experience and advice... I agree if we can eliminate a server, that' good because once we decide on a server ,it has to run "full time" on the personal LAN in order to be useful at all times to all machines on the personal LAN. So better to NOT need a server, if we can. > I would go for LAN file sharing. It is IMHO the most available method. I agree. SMB is "problematic" though. So if you have a solution where the Windows machine is the SMB server, _that_ would be fantastic. To my knowledge, _nobody_ has that solution yet. (It seems so simple, but the problem is the SMB port catch22). > If direct access to LAN resources is not possible, I would go for > a LAN file sync utility and do DB Syncing against local > copy. > For Android, my favourites are SyncMe Wireless > Total Commander LAN access. Thanks Poutnik for that suggestion using SyncMe Wireless. I already had Total Commander but never found it to be a useful file manager utility. o Total Commander <https://www.ghisler.com/android.htm> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ghisler.android.TotalCommander> As per your suggestion, I installed SyncMe Wireless to test: o SyncMe Wireless <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bv.wifisync> The "Welcome" message says to make sure there is a shared folder on the computer, presumably that's an SMB share, e.g., on Windows (or on Linux via Samba). o You press "Add computer" which ask for four pieces of information: o Computer Name, Domain, User, Password. That should have worked but it failed for me. No matter what combination I tried, it said: "Connection Reset". It kept referring me to: o How to find Local Security Policy <https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/how-to-find-local-security-policy/6cccf15f-2ecd-4f92-86a2-0e14f121fb26> o Which says to to go "Start > Run > control" o Control Panel\System and Security\Administrative Tools\ o Local Security Policy o Security Settings -> Local Policies -> Security Options o Double-click Accounts: Limit local account use of blank passwords to console logon only o Set to Disabled and click OK. o Close the Local Security Policy window However, no matter what I tried, it said "Connection Reset". (I never did understand Windows networking - it never works over NETBIOS for me, mainly because my access point blocks netbios broadcasts; but in this case, I even used the IP address as the computer name, so NETBIOS broadcasts should not be needed. For example, a ping works fine.) Anyway, SyncMe "should" have worked so I think it's a good idea for a general solution. I suspect it's simply an SMB client but then how does it work on ports lower than 1024 (which Windows uses for SMB)? > But would rather avoid *single* shared file for 2 reasons. > > 1/data security in case of curruption. Even if it would be > regularly backed up, it is easy to be done too late, especially > for backups to independent storage device. I agree the data management issues come up when there is a single master kbdx password file. A nice advantage of Keepas software is that it "merges" separate files, which means we can come up with a process that merges multiple files, one for Android device, another for the iOS devices, etc. (if we want that). > In my case, the central file is permanent or temporary cloud > WebDAV location. I am familiar with setting up both WebDAV and FTP servers on Android, but is _that_ what you're speaking about? Or is the WebDAV server on the desktop in your setup?
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 12:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnq48pe5.vve.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> |
| In reply to | #120839 |
arlen holder wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 11:15:35 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Libor Striz wrote: > >> If just LAN file sharing is set, no need for a server . > > Hi Poutnik, > > Thanks for the purposefully helpful experience and advice... > > I agree if we can eliminate a server, that' good because once we decide on > a server ,it has to run "full time" on the personal LAN in order to be > useful at all times to all machines on the personal LAN. > > So better to NOT need a server, if we can. You would have a better time of things by using a server with the "master(tm)" copy, as the main problem with any manual-update based tool is remembering to send the file to the other devices. Nextcloud / Owncloud (or similar "cloud storage" software that has sync clients for all* platforms) is a relatively easy solution to that problem. If you didn't want to include phones, cronjobs would be perfectly fine as well. * Well, Owncloud has windows / linux / mac / android / iOS. Keep meaning to read up on nextcloud as a replacement, but it's not the highest priority right now. > >> I would go for LAN file sharing. It is IMHO the most available method. > > I agree. > SMB is "problematic" though. > So if you have a solution where the Windows machine is the > SMB server, _that_ would be fantastic. SMB / CIFS / samba is doable on a linux-based server as well. And tends to behave better when dealing with cross-platform setups; at least in my experience. Granted, the last time I _needed_ a samba share was years ago; Windows mya have gotten less sucky since 8/8.1. >> [...] >> In my case, the central file is permanent or temporary cloud >> WebDAV location. > > I am familiar with setting up both WebDAV and FTP servers on Android, but > is _that_ what you're speaking about? I doubt he's running a "server" application on his phone. -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 13:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q21rnk$pp7$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #120843 |
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 12:12:53 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote: > You would have a better time of things by using a server with the > "master(tm)" copy, as the main problem with any manual-update based tool > is remembering to send the file to the other devices. Hi Dan, I agree with you that a "master" passwod.kdbx file makes sense. (A copy is fine also ... where it's only a minor philosophical difference.) The three approaches, as I understand the problem set, are: 1. Maintain a local (partial) copy of the master passwd file on each device 2. Maintain a Master passwd file on some kind of local cloud share 3. Same as #2 with the only difference being it's a copy of the Master file All three approaches hinge on the ability to pass "a file" back & forth. Since Apple products generally have the most cross-platform issues, I've tested the non-Apple products & only have a problem with Android. That is: a. Linux can use smbclient to copy the passwd file from a Windows share b. Windows can use "copy" to copy the passed file from a Windows share c. Android _should_ be able to do the same thing but fails. Right now I'm trying to figure out why Android can't access a Windows network share using either the SyncMe Wireless or AndSMB clients. > Nextcloud / Owncloud (or similar "cloud storage" software that has sync > clients for all* platforms) is a relatively easy solution to that > problem. If you didn't want to include phones, cronjobs would be > perfectly fine as well. Networking is a LOT easier if we ignore the mobile devices. But they are critical to the problem set. The main problem, as I see it, with NextCloud/OwnCloud, is what we discussed earlier this week about needing a 100% Linux server. Yes, with heroics, they can be made to work on Windows, but it's my understanding that you literally must be an expert to be successful. If folks disagree, then I'll simply ask them for the exact steps, so that I can cut and paste them, to get them to work on Windows. A viable option, of course, is a $35 Raspberry Pi that can act as the full-time Linux server - but that takes expertise also. > * Well, Owncloud has windows / linux / mac / android / iOS. We have to differentiate between *servers* & *clients*. The _client_ is never the problem when owncloud solutions are discussed. The problem is the server. It's my understanding that the only viable server is a Linux server. that means Linux has to be running 24/7. In my network, it's Windows that runs 24/7 - not Linux. Linux runs about 20% of the time on my network. So while Linux is always important (it's the portal to iOS for example), Linux is only used when it's needed. > meaning to read up on nextcloud as a replacement, but it's not the > highest priority right now. Philosophically, it seems OwnCloud is a "bad choice" for now, except for legacy setups, based on the sour business issues, so it would be NextCloud for anyone starting fresh (as I recall the conversation). Even so, it's my understanding only a Windows hero could get it to work. Maybe that's not the case - but that's my understanding. Anyone who disagrees could easily post a step by step tutorial for setting it up on Windows and I'd be glad to test it out - but I doubt anyone will write that tutorial. I'ver personally written extremely many tutorials, so I know how difficult step-by-step tutorials are to write. > SMB / CIFS / samba is doable on a linux-based server as well. Again, we have to mention "clients" or "servers", although I agree that smbclients and samba servers are extremely robust on Linux. So I'm not in the least worried - as I used to network the old Macs of the 90's era using columbia appletalk (caps) and the old SunOS machines (maybe it was Solaris by then) with Windows (probably Win95 or Win2K). Samba servers and smbclient clients are robust on Linux, so that's never going to be the problem. Linux is easy. It's just not running full time on most networks - so that's the only reason that Linux isn't the central server for this home-network situation. That's too bad that Linux doesn't run full time as a full-time Linux server would solve most of the networking problems, given how robust Linux is compared to the other platforms. > to behave better when dealing with cross-platform setups; at least in my > experience. I agree with you that Linux behaves best cross platform as both server and client. The problem is simply that there is no dedicated Linux server 24/7 on most home networks, including mine. Some day I'll set up a $35 raspberri Pi as a dedicated 24/7 Linux server. > Granted, the last time I _needed_ a samba share was years ago; Windows > mya have gotten less sucky since 8/8.1. Windows actually sucks at SMB (IMHO) due to the inability to change ports. Other than that, SMB is the "native" solution for Windows. SMB works just fine on Linux. It's Android that has the problem with the ports not being the same as the ports for Windows. As I recall (Frank Slootweg knows this better than I do) o Android (non root) won't allow you to use ports below 1024 o Windows won't allow you to use the ports above 1024 So it's a catch 22. I don't know how the SyncMe Wireless and AndSMB clients are supposed to work non root. Maybe someone on this newsgroup knows more than I do about this, because I don't know ANYTHING about this type of networking, and, as proof, it's not working for me to connect from Android to Windows. Windows to Windows works fine, so we know the Windows setup is fine. > I doubt he's running a "server" application on his phone. I agree with you. I _think_ the server should be the Windows box because it's 24/7 on the network. Just in case, though, we could easily run a server on Android. In fact, running a WebDAV or FTP server on Android is trivial. If folks want to try, here are the free software tools I'd recommend: o Free WebDAV Servers on Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zq.webdav.app_free> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.webdavserver> o Free FTP Servers on Android <https://f-droid.org/en/packages/be.ppareit.swiftp_free/> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.ftpserver> The main problem with putting the MASTER passwd.kdbx file on Android using a WebDAV or FTP server is simply that the Android device also isn't on the network 24/7. The only device on "most" home networks (at least on mine) that is on 24/7 is the router itself (which has a USB slot) and the Windows machines. (As an aside, I should figure out how to use that empty USB port in the back of the SOHO router - maybe it can host the Master kdbx file?)
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 14:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnq48vrp.vve.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> |
| In reply to | #120854 |
arlen holder wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 12:12:53 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote: > >> You would have a better time of things by using a server with the >> "master(tm)" copy, as the main problem with any manual-update based tool >> is remembering to send the file to the other devices. > > Hi Dan, > I agree with you that a "master" passwod.kdbx file makes sense. > (A copy is fine also ... where it's only a minor philosophical difference.) One copy ultimately should always be the one all others are compared against, else the copies will start to drift (e.g forget to update the tablet when you update a password, then add things there ...) > > The three approaches, as I understand the problem set, are: > 1. Maintain a local (partial) copy of the master passwd file on each device Well, i never said "partial" ... > 2. Maintain a Master passwd file on some kind of local cloud share > 3. Same as #2 with the only difference being it's a copy of the Master file Er .. you seem to be confusing terms here. > > All three approaches hinge on the ability to pass "a file" back & forth. Yup, there aren't any database-driven managers. Could be nice, but security becomes an issue. > Since Apple products generally have the most cross-platform issues, > I've tested the non-Apple products & only have a problem with Android. > [...] > Right now I'm trying to figure out why Android can't access a Windows > network share using either the SyncMe Wireless or AndSMB clients. See Message <slrnq48qve.vve.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> . > >> Nextcloud / Owncloud (or similar "cloud storage" software that has sync >> clients for all* platforms) is a relatively easy solution to that >> problem. If you didn't want to include phones, cronjobs would be >> perfectly fine as well. > > Networking is a LOT easier if we ignore the mobile devices. > But they are critical to the problem set. Good thing I didnt ignore them then. > > The main problem, as I see it, with NextCloud/OwnCloud, is what we > discussed earlier this week about needing a 100% Linux server. Then you misunderstood why I was telling you to use just one OS as the server. > > Yes, with heroics, they can be made to work on Windows, but it's my > understanding that you literally must be an expert to be successful. No, but it is a fight, because Microsoft's way of doing things is pretty bad. Seems that they ultimately run in docker containers or Linux VMs on a Win host. > > If folks disagree, then I'll simply ask them for the exact steps, so that I > can cut and paste them, to get them to work on Windows. https://doc.owncloud.org/server/10.0/admin_manual/installation/docker/index.html https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/stable/admin_manual/installation/source_installation.html#installing-on-windows-virtual-machine > > A viable option, of course, is a $35 Raspberry Pi that can act as the > full-time Linux server - but that takes expertise also. If you count "follow the instructions" as "expertise", I guess. > >> * Well, Owncloud has windows / linux / mac / android / iOS. > > We have to differentiate between *servers* & *clients*. > The _client_ is never the problem when owncloud solutions are discussed. > The problem is the server. > > It's my understanding that the only viable server is a Linux server. > that means Linux has to be running 24/7. > In my network, it's Windows that runs 24/7 - not Linux. So use a VM / Docker / a RPi, as pointed out above. > > Linux runs about 20% of the time on my network. > > So while Linux is always important (it's the portal to iOS for example), > Linux is only used when it's needed. Well, looks like "it's needed" has just jumped quite a bit (at least on some spare box / VM / whatever). > >> meaning to read up on nextcloud as a replacement, but it's not the >> highest priority right now. > > Philosophically, it seems OwnCloud is a "bad choice" for now, except for > legacy setups, based on the sour business issues, so it would be NextCloud > for anyone starting fresh (as I recall the conversation). Everyone is always mad about something. My understanding was that Frank (the original dev) didn't like the way tgey went corporate. > > Even so, it's my understanding only a Windows hero could get it to work. > Maybe that's not the case - but that's my understanding. takes a windows hero to install a VM? > > Anyone who disagrees could easily post a step by step tutorial for setting > it up on Windows and I'd be glad to test it out - but I doubt anyone will > write that tutorial. I'ver personally written extremely many tutorials, so > I know how difficult step-by-step tutorials are to write. Funny, both Next- and Owncloud have them. Granted, they start with "so Microsoft is stuck in 1999 and only allowing 32 bit for PHP .. and they're not so fast with the uptake of PHP7, so ... use Docker or a VM". > >> SMB / CIFS / samba is doable on a linux-based server as well. > > Again, we have to mention "clients" or "servers", although I agree that > smbclients and samba servers are extremely robust on Linux. > > So I'm not in the least worried - as I used to network the old Macs of the > 90's era using columbia appletalk (caps) and the old SunOS machines (maybe > it was Solaris by then) with Windows (probably Win95 or Win2K). > > Samba servers and smbclient clients are robust on Linux, so that's never > going to be the problem. Linux is easy. It's just not running full time on > most networks - so that's the only reason that Linux isn't the central > server for this home-network situation. > > That's too bad that Linux doesn't run full time as a full-time Linux server > would solve most of the networking problems, given how robust Linux is > compared to the other platforms.A Good news! We have virtual machines. > >> to behave better when dealing with cross-platform setups; at least in my >> experience. > > I agree with you that Linux behaves best cross platform as both server and > client. > > The problem is simply that there is no dedicated Linux server 24/7 on most > home networks, including mine. > > Some day I'll set up a $35 raspberri Pi as a dedicated 24/7 Linux server. Why not a $0 VM? If the host PC is already turned on all the time, you've got the fix right there. > >> Granted, the last time I _needed_ a samba share was years ago; Windows >> mya have gotten less sucky since 8/8.1. > > Windows actually sucks at SMB (IMHO) due to the inability to change ports. > Other than that, SMB is the "native" solution for Windows. > SMB works just fine on Linux. Well, SMB does have defined ports that're supposed to be used if you expect "plug and play" (aka "zero config"). > > It's Android that has the problem with the ports not being the same as the > ports for Windows. As I recall (Frank Slootweg knows this better than I do) > o Android (non root) won't allow you to use ports below 1024 > o Windows won't allow you to use the ports above 1024 Android should _never_ need to be running servers. > > So it's a catch 22. > I don't know how the SyncMe Wireless and AndSMB clients are supposed to > work non root. connect some ephemeral port to the server's defined port. Same as how nearly every other comm protocol works. > > Maybe someone on this newsgroup knows more than I do about this, because I > [...] > Windows to Windows works fine, so we know the Windows setup is fine. See that post I mentioned above. > >> I doubt he's running a "server" application on his phone. > > I agree with you. > > I _think_ the server should be the Windows box because it's 24/7 on the > network. > > Just in case, though, we could easily run a server on Android. > In fact, running a WebDAV or FTP server on Android is trivial. Ugh, i hate the idiots who keep writing server applivations for phones. That's not the right way to do things. > The main problem with putting the MASTER passwd.kdbx file on Android > using a WebDAV or FTP server is simply that the Android device also > isn't on the network 24/7. Precisely why running a server application on a client device is daft. > > The only device on "most" home networks (at least on mine) that is on > 24/7 is the router itself (which has a USB slot) and the Windows machines. > > (As an aside, I should figure out how to use that empty USB port in the > back of the SOHO router - maybe it can host the Master kdbx file?) That's usually the point ... unless it can only be a printserver. -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 15:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <q220ri$gcd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #120860 |
Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> Wrote in message: > Android should _never_ need to be running servers. Sometimes it is useful to have a temporary server, e.g a file server plugin of Total Commander, when one phone acts over a wifi as a file server and the other as a client. Or, some server components of remote control software like TeamViewer. -- Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer) "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity." Miloš Forman ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 22:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q22r2d$fb8$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #120864 |
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 15:33:19 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Libor Striz wrote: > Sometimes it is useful > to have a temporary server, > e.g a file server plugin of Total Commander, > when one phone acts over a wifi > as a file server > and the other as a client. > > Or, some server components of remote control software like TeamViewer. I think we all agree that a TEMPORARY mobile-device server is useful. For example, it's what plenty of iOS users use to xfer files over WiFi. o How to mount the entire mobile device file system on Windows <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/ix8xgTcexAY/dlY4nLMfAgAJ> But, as we are all aware, Apple doesn't make simple things easy: o Why doesn't Apple just let you manage your iOS file system natively on Windows? <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/ddcUPKpR7pc/E6gjXKb_DgAJ> Yet, with diligence and perspiration, iOS can be made to xfer files too: o What's the easiest way to just transfer a single file from iOS over to my laptop? <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/pzK3HrzQJ4E/TAyPuQyqCQAJ> Meanwhile, Android make such things almost trivial over USB or WiFi: o Tutorial to run any Windows command directly on Android over either USB or Wi-Fi <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/JrWLPRYO-TU/2gn6KqccBwAJ> Once you know a few tricks: o When you plug in your phone to usb on your computer, does your file system mount on Windows 10? <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/qxztHvQevDY/UBjlL-pGAAAJ> o What do you use to copy text files from Windows XP to Android over WiFi? <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/OkDfuDN9fZU/mFAMnIPGFQAJ> Meanwhile, on Linux, everything (pretty much) just works (even iOS r/w automount): o How do we most easily set up a freeware network of Windows + Linux + iOS + Android file systems <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/tKhwlZyOhf0/oc2gJAq7CAAJ> o Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/WqIDiVbawRs/pwxzu7LMCAAJ> The main point is agreement with Poutnik that, sometimes, a TEMPORARY server on the mobile device (particularly when xferring files over WiFi) has its merits. -- I switched VPN (I have thousands) to eliminate that Avast triple-dash sig.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 17:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <200120191717243285%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #120876 |
In article <q22r2d$fb8$1@news.mixmin.net>, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote: > > I think we all agree that a TEMPORARY mobile-device server is useful. as usual, you think wrong. > > For example, it's what plenty of iOS users use to xfer files over WiFi. no it isn't. > > But, as we are all aware, Apple doesn't make simple things easy: yes they do. > > Yet, with diligence and perspiration, iOS can be made to xfer files too: where 'diligence and perspiration' is a tap. > > Meanwhile, Android make such things almost trivial over USB or WiFi: actually, it doesn't. > > Once you know a few tricks: no tricks needed. > Meanwhile, on Linux, everything (pretty much) just works (even iOS r/w > automount): not always
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 23:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnq4a080.k38.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> |
| In reply to | #120876 |
arlen holder wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 15:33:19 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Libor Striz wrote: > >> Sometimes it is useful >> to have a temporary server, >> e.g a file server plugin of Total Commander, >> when one phone acts over a wifi >> as a file server >> and the other as a client. >> >> Or, some server components of remote control software like TeamViewer. > > I think we all agree that a TEMPORARY mobile-device server is useful. No, we "all" don't. -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 21:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q22q9s$e4k$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #120860 |
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 14:02:33 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote:
> Good news! We have virtual machines.
> Well, SMB does have defined ports that're supposed to be used if you
> expect "plug and play" (aka "zero config").
> Android should _never_ need to be running servers.
> Well, i never said "partial" ...
Hi Dan,
All good points.
I don't actually disagree with anything you wrote.
We just put different weights on the various proposed solutions.
Thank you for your purposefully helpful input - which I appreciate.
I think we have _different_ approaches to solving this problem.
I UNDERSTAND your approach (I really do - or - um - I think I do).
I think we differ mostly in PHILOSOPHY due to our experience levels.
o You are more experienced than I am (apparently),
o Hence, what you think is easy, I consider difficult (as a general solution)
I'm seeking a SIMPLER solution than that you offer (e.g., VMs).
I'm seeking a GENERAL solution (that will work for most people).
That's where we differ philosophically - as I see the situation...
Below is a bit more detail where we differ - but that's the summary:
o Your proposed solution _will_ work - I do not disagree it will work.
o I am simply seeking a more generic, simpler, KISS solution.
*On virtual machines:*
1. I've written tutorials on setting up VMs on Windows. VMs suck.
2. We're old men; (IMHO) Docker is no better (different - but not better).
3. We old men have used emulation forever (e.g., Wine).
4. I've installed Docker - & hate it - it won't even go where it belongs.
5. In short, this short post shows I have a disdain for VMs as solutions
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/BpPrLrSCza4/HCsPaHrOAQAJ>
6. And yet, I clearly relish posting cut-&-paste "tutorials" that work (for me):
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/BpPrLrSCza4/Mo4GQS_SAQAJ>
(Note: Those are consecutive posts in the same thread - as illustrations.)
BTW, to help _others_ (as always), here's a recent VM-related tutorial:
o Have you gotten Genymotion freeware to work on an older AMD CPU on Win10?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/ix9empN-mxg/07ZmH2AWAQAJ>
I have _plenty_ of experience with VMs (and I _hate_ them, in general):
o I worked personally with VM Ware for years, by the way.
o And yet, if I were to use a VM today (as I do when I must), it's VirtualBox.
I prefer _this_ solution to work sans the requirement for a VM.
If I need Linux, I'll write a tutorial setting up the raspberry pi instead.
But that won't be a "general" solution - which is always my goal.
*On partial files:*
1. Luckily, Kee Pass clones are typically designed to handle "partial" files
2. Hence, partial file merging into a master file methods "can" work.
*On Nextcloud versus OwnCloud servers & their tutorials for setup:*
1. We're old men who have been burned many times with unsupported s/w.
2. The writing is on the wall (IMHO) for the demise of OwnCloud.
3. Hence a tutorial for OwnCloud can be (read "is") worthless for NextCloud.
*On the server choice:*
1. As with the CalDAV issue - the only reasonable server is Linux.
2. However, I strive for general solutions where Linux isn't usually it.
3. Linux plays a role though - and in fact a key role - but Windows is it.
4. Having said that, it's miserable to find server software for Windows.
5. As Poutnik noted, "sometimes" it's useful for Android/iOS servers
6. Some day, I'll learn how to set up a raspberry pi as my Linux server!
(I'll write a tutorial for you when I do - but all my tutorials work 1st!)
*On the concept of "instructions" versus a step-by-step "tutorial".
1. Oh God - I can't explain this to you if you have 0 computer experience
2. Suffice to give two examples that show the difference between them
3. These are instructions (hint - they work - but they suck for noobs):
<https://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Create-An-Android-App-With-Android-Studio/>
4. These are step-by-step cut-and-paste tutorials
(hint - my only claim is that they worked exactly as posted, for me)
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/aW64zYeBtF0/1b5h3r3PBAAJ>
In summary, Dan, I thank you for your purposefully helpful advice.
Everything you suggest _will_ work.
o The main problem is that it requires a VM
o Or a full-time Linux box
I'm seeking a "more general" solution that doesn't require a VM
(that general solution may not exist - which is what makes this hard).
--
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 23:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnq4a05u.k38.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> |
| In reply to | #120874 |
arlen holder wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 14:02:33 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote: > >> Good news! We have virtual machines. >> Well, SMB does have defined ports that're supposed to be used if you >> expect "plug and play" (aka "zero config"). >> Android should _never_ need to be running servers. >> Well, i never said "partial" ... > > Hi Dan, > > All good points. > I don't actually disagree with anything you wrote. > > We just put different weights on the various proposed solutions. > > Thank you for your purposefully helpful input - which I appreciate. > I think we have _different_ approaches to solving this problem. > > I UNDERSTAND your approach (I really do - or - um - I think I do). > I think we differ mostly in PHILOSOPHY due to our experience levels. > o You are more experienced than I am (apparently), > o Hence, what you think is easy, I consider difficult (as a general solution) > > I'm seeking a SIMPLER solution than that you offer (e.g., VMs). > I'm seeking a GENERAL solution (that will work for most people). Spare PC running a Linux distro of your choice. Done and done. > > That's where we differ philosophically - as I see the situation... > > Below is a bit more detail where we differ - but that's the summary: > o Your proposed solution _will_ work - I do not disagree it will work. > o I am simply seeking a more generic, simpler, KISS solution. > > *On virtual machines:* > 1. I've written tutorials on setting up VMs on Windows. VMs suck. > 2. We're old men; (IMHO) Docker is no better (different - but not better). > 3. We old men have used emulation forever (e.g., Wine). WINE Is Not an Emulator -- it's a translator between Windows and Linux ABIs. > > I have _plenty_ of experience with VMs (and I _hate_ them, in general): > o I worked personally with VM Ware for years, by the way. > o And yet, if I were to use a VM today (as I do when I must), it's VirtualBox. And ...? Vbox is perfectly fine for this task. > I prefer _this_ solution to work sans the requirement for a VM. > If I need Linux, I'll write a tutorial setting up the raspberry pi instead. > But that won't be a "general" solution - which is always my goal. This makes no sense. If "the solution(tm)" is "use a linux box", then thats the solution. Same as "use Windows" may be a solution for whatever problem. > > *On Nextcloud versus OwnCloud servers & their tutorials for setup:* > 1. We're old men who have been burned many times with unsupported s/w. > 2. The writing is on the wall (IMHO) for the demise of OwnCloud. > 3. Hence a tutorial for OwnCloud can be (read "is") worthless for NextCloud. You realize the two links were each project's approach to "but I wanna use Windows", right? > > *On the server choice:* > 1. As with the CalDAV issue - the only reasonable server is Linux. > 2. However, I strive for general solutions where Linux isn't usually it. This is where you're getting it wrong. Linux happens to be the right tool for the job at hand. You don't dry driving nails with a screwdriver, do you? > 5. As Poutnik noted, "sometimes" it's useful for Android/iOS servers I disagree with him in that regard. > 6. Some day, I'll learn how to set up a raspberry pi as my Linux server! > (I'll write a tutorial for you when I do - but all my tutorials work 1st!) Just like your "universal file sliding", right? > I'm seeking a "more general" solution that doesn't require a VM > (that general solution may not exist - which is what makes this hard). It doesn't. The sooner you grok that, the better off you'll be. -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 14:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q2248e.7ag.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #120854 |
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote: [...] > Windows actually sucks at SMB (IMHO) due to the inability to change ports. > Other than that, SMB is the "native" solution for Windows. > SMB works just fine on Linux. > > It's Android that has the problem with the ports not being the same as the > ports for Windows. As I recall (Frank Slootweg knows this better than I do) > o Android (non root) won't allow you to use ports below 1024 > o Windows won't allow you to use the ports above 1024 > > So it's a catch 22. > I don't know how the SyncMe Wireless and AndSMB clients are supposed to > work non root. Non-root Android is only a problem for SMB-*servers*. As you say, SyncMe Wireless and AndSMB are SMB-*clients* and there is no port-range problem for clients. As to your problem of SyncMe Wireless and AndSMB not working with your Windows Network Share, Libor Striz may be on to something: SyncMe Wireless (probably) using SMB1 protocol and SMB1 not being enabled by default on your Windows platform. See my response to Libor Striz. [...]
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 22:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q22rtc$ghq$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #120862 |
On 20 Jan 2019 14:31:46 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Non-root Android is only a problem for SMB-*servers*. As you say, > SyncMe Wireless and AndSMB are SMB-*clients* and there is no port-range > problem for clients. > > As to your problem of SyncMe Wireless and AndSMB not working with your > Windows Network Share, Libor Striz may be on to something: SyncMe > Wireless (probably) using SMB1 protocol and SMB1 not being enabled by > default on your Windows platform. See my response to Libor Striz. Hi Frank, Thanks for that helpful information as I _knew_ you know the most about this particular unfortunate problem. IMHO, it's one case where Android sort of acts like Apple. They restrict you from doing what would otherwise be trivially simple! Sigh. I always defer to you & to Paul on the SMB complexities. I simply wish that SMB would work - as it would be PERFECT if it did. Sigh. Anyway, I'm reading up on what Paul suggested, so I started an apnote which is not even close to being written - but here's what I have so far... ***************************************************************************** How to get Windows SMB shares to work with Android, iOS, & Linux clients ***************************************************************************** WIP From Frank Slootweg (the expert on such things): a. Non-root Android SMB is only a problem for SMB-*servers*. b. SyncMe Wireless & AndSMB are SMB-*clients* c. There is no port-range problem for clients. The client may be SMB1 protocol where SMB1 may not be enabled by default on Windows. o Windows SMB will only listen for SMB/CIFs traffic on TCP port 445. o Non-root Android won't allow SMB server apps access ports 1-1024. This no longer exists: 'SMB cifs samba file server' o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.imperioustech.www.sambaserver> o "Uses Standard port 445 for rooted devices and automatically selects a suitable port for non-rooted devices." REFERENCES: o What's the best way to forward SMB TCP port 445 to something higher than 1024 on Windows? o <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/3QQ8bAZeXNI/p7yqvwHrBQAJ> o How to detect, enable & disable SMBv1, SMBv2, & SMBv3 in Windows & Windows Server o <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2696547/how-to-detect-enable-and-disable-smbv1-smbv2-and-smbv3-in-windows-and> Android SMB client: o AndSMB <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lysesoft.andsmb> o SyncMe Wireless <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bv.wifisync> Linux SMB client: o <https://askubuntu.com/questions/749070/copy-file-with-smbclient-and-path-to-directory> o smbclient -U user%passwd //10.0.1.250/Home --directory Public/Offline -c 'put "test.txt"' -- I must have hundreds of started, but unfinished apnotes ... this may be one more...
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| From | Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 12:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q21oot$rr9$1@gonzo.alcatraz> |
| In reply to | #120827 |
On 2019-01-20, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 06:19:12 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts wrote: > >>> What prompted this is the news today that 773 million emails are pwned. >> Slow news day. > > Hi Jasen Betts, > > That's kind of funny ... but expected ... since we know you rather well. > That comment indicates you missed what's _different_ about that news. 773 accounts exposed 2 years ago... not exactly current events. >>> Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, >>> Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? >> >> I have no idea what you mean. that question can be taken at-least three >> different ways. you come here abusing technical terms like "passwd" which is not a pure synnonym for password, and then further confuse things uppercase it like it might be something different, and then mis-use the word database. > For one, I've already chosen "KeePass" as my electronic passwd database; whateva. > That's the key unanswered question for this thread to resolve. tldr. -- When I tried casting out nines I made a hash of it.
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 13:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q21stm$rso$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #120847 |
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 12:15:25 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts wrote: > 773 accounts exposed 2 years ago... not exactly current events. Hi Jason Betts, By now you should have re-read that article a few times. Maybe the point of that article will have sunk in by the third read. But it doesn't seem like the information _has_ sunk in to your brain. The problem is that I can't make you comprehend the obvious. I just can't. Your brain is going to have to perceive what is "new" in that database. You can claim it's old information - but it contains new information. I'm not sure I have the skills to explain something that obvious to you. I'm not sure where you got your data from, but the article I referred to was dated January 17 (which is a couple days ago) and I also read other articles which provided more information, all of which is current news. What's new is a "series" of events, some of which are certainly old, but others of which are stated in the article as being new occurrences (such as the momentary exposure), and others of which are the access for free to all of us (the web site for the search). Nonetheless, you can continue to act like a child, Jason Betts. By you acting like a child - we all have to suffer your idiocy. But explaining the obvious to you gets us nowhere, Jason Betts. You _always_ act like a child - and I am confronting you frontally on that. I chose that particular article out of many simply because it was from a highly respected entity (i.e., Consumers Union), where I clearly said in the opening post that there was no need to "delve into the details". You have to remember, Jason Betts, that your post added zero value. Your post seemed, to me, to be ill intended - with malice on your part. Your post seemed, to me, to be intended to be a waste of our time. Hence I responded to your purposefully unhelpful post as I did. If you want to CHANGE your attitude - then please do. I will respond, as always, as if I'm a mirror of your perceived intent. > you come here abusing technical terms like "passwd" which is not a > pure synnonym for password, and then further confuse things uppercase > it like it might be something different, and then mis-use the word > database. Hi Jason Betts, I know you and I know something about you. o You _always_ act like a child, Jason Betts. o You _never_ intend anything but malice, Jason Betts. You never add a single iota of technical value to any thread, Jason Betts. You _love_ to play childishly silly semantic games, Jason Betts. *With that in mind, you now say I'm _abusing_ the term" "passwd".* Jesus Christ, Jason Betts. Do you have any other silly semantic games you want to play? If I mail you a child's coloring book - will that keep you occupied enough? (Anything to keep you off of Usenet will benefit everyone else.) > whateva. What a child you prove to be, Jason Betts. I don't have to prove that - you prove it yourself. > tldr. What a child you prove to be, Jason Betts. Your own words prove that you own the mind of a child, Jason Betts. Look Jason Betts, If you want to bully a thread, then expect to be confronted, Jason Betts. You act, always, like a child, Jason Betts. Don't blame me for simply pointing out two things, Jason Betts: 1. You _never_ post with purposefully helpful intent, Jason Betts. 2. Hence, you always _waste_ everyone's time with your drivel. What you don't like, Jason Betts, is that I confront you bullies. Go and play your silly childish semantic games elsewhere. We are actually trying to accomplish something with this thread. 1. People can see whether they've been pwned 2. People can set up an encrypted database on all platforms 3. What we're working on now, is passing the MASTER file This solution of being able to share a shared file on a home network (whether that shared file is a copy or not is immaterial), is a very useful capability which almost all home networks would benefit from. Your purposefully unhelpful posts, Jason Betts, detract from that goal.
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