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| Started by | "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| First post | 2018-09-25 23:56 +0000 |
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The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-25 23:56 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> - 2018-09-25 19:14 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-26 03:19 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-26 11:49 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> - 2018-09-26 19:48 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 03:50 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-26 21:13 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 06:02 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 06:05 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-26 23:46 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 16:18 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-27 09:27 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 19:49 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-27 13:08 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 14:05 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-27 03:58 -0400
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:24 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:13 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 14:49 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:28 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-28 15:58 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-05 11:07 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:43 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:23 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-27 13:48 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 20:40 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:52 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 08:39 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 09:52 -0400
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 15:53 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:44 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 18:01 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 15:34 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:44 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 17:57 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 12:59 -0500
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 18:15 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 13:46 -0500
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-28 21:27 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 07:31 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-07 03:29 +0000
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 17:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <polp91$s64$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #118475 |
Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 08:39:40 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: > >> Ok. Let's go there. > > First off, your history, Chris, is that of a childish troll. > You're one of the dozen most obvious Apple Apologists of all time. > > Let's see if it's even _possible_ for you to ever act like an adult. > Shall we? Ah I see I've become the latest to receive your boilerplate "troll" treatment. Whatever... >> You posit that if an app were illegal Google would block it. Therefore as >> new pipe is available from Google it can't be illegal. That's true. > > That's wrong on so many counts that I have to wonder about your > comprehension skills, Chris. > > Your comprehension of what I said is so lacking that I must wonder: > a. Are you really _that_ stupid? or, > b. Are you simply playing games (again)? How can anyone know given you snip everything? >> However, you're confusing the legality of an object with the legality of an >> act using that object or thing. Just because new pipe isn't illegal doesn't >> mean you can't use for illegal activity. They are logically distinct. > > This is the first adult statement you've made, Chris, where you bring up a > point which nobody made, but which is valid, where I'll use the example of > an ice pick to reflect that all the adults here know the platitude: > a. An ice pick isn't in and of itself illegal, > b. And yet, you can use an ice pick to perpetuate an illegal act. You're just repeating what I said. >> If A is illegal and B is used to commit A, then B is also illegal *only* if >> B's only purpose is to enable A. > > Platitudes, Chris. Platitudes. > a. An ice pick isn't in and of itself illegal, > b. And yet, you can use an ice pick to perpetuate an illegal act. You're repeating yourself as well as what I said. Stunningly, you're making even less sense than "normal". Time to killfile this new nym of yours, methinks.
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| From | Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 17:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <polq2u$6eh$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #118484 |
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:44:01 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: > You're repeating yourself as well as what I said. Stunningly, you're making > even less sense than "normal". So as to always strive to add value in every post, please see one of my thousands of tutorials, where this one is useful for cross-platform edification: Tutorial for how to watch any Youtube video without ever seeing an advertisement <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/AB8gWkSnM1E>
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| From | Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 12:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <g178ffF3hc0U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #118484 |
On 09/28/2018 12:44 PM, Chris wrote: > Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 08:39:40 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >> >>> Ok. Let's go there. >> >> First off, your history, Chris, is that of a childish troll. >> You're one of the dozen most obvious Apple Apologists of all time. >> >> Let's see if it's even _possible_ for you to ever act like an adult. >> Shall we? > > Ah I see I've become the latest to receive your boilerplate "troll" > treatment. Whatever... You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad now. :-) > >>> You posit that if an app were illegal Google would block it. Therefore as >>> new pipe is available from Google it can't be illegal. That's true. >> >> That's wrong on so many counts that I have to wonder about your >> comprehension skills, Chris. >> >> Your comprehension of what I said is so lacking that I must wonder: >> a. Are you really _that_ stupid? or, >> b. Are you simply playing games (again)? > > How can anyone know given you snip everything? > >>> However, you're confusing the legality of an object with the legality of an >>> act using that object or thing. Just because new pipe isn't illegal doesn't >>> mean you can't use for illegal activity. They are logically distinct. >> >> This is the first adult statement you've made, Chris, where you bring up a >> point which nobody made, but which is valid, where I'll use the example of >> an ice pick to reflect that all the adults here know the platitude: >> a. An ice pick isn't in and of itself illegal, >> b. And yet, you can use an ice pick to perpetuate an illegal act. > > You're just repeating what I said. > >>> If A is illegal and B is used to commit A, then B is also illegal *only* if >>> B's only purpose is to enable A. >> >> Platitudes, Chris. Platitudes. >> a. An ice pick isn't in and of itself illegal, >> b. And yet, you can use an ice pick to perpetuate an illegal act. > > You're repeating yourself as well as what I said. Stunningly, you're making > even less sense than "normal". > > Time to killfile this new nym of yours, methinks. > > > Yeah, He does get boring eh. Rene
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| From | Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 18:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <polr4s$81s$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #118487 |
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:59:08 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote: > You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad > now. :-) *Why must you _prove_ you can't add an iota of value, Rene Lamontagne?*
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| From | Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 13:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <g17b7tF431pU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #118489 |
On 09/28/2018 1:15 PM, Arlen H Holder wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:59:08 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote: > >> You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad >> now. :-) > > *Why must you _prove_ you can't add an iota of value, Rene Lamontagne?* > Just to piss you off.
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 21:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnpqt759.6s3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> |
| In reply to | #118490 |
Rene Lamontagne wrote: > On 09/28/2018 1:15 PM, Arlen H Holder wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:59:08 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote: >> >>> You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad >>> now. :-) >> >> *Why must you _prove_ you can't add an iota of value, Rene Lamontagne?* >> > > Just to piss you off. > I thought it was funny ... (not sure which group Rene hails from, else I'd trim things.. Followup set to alt.os.linux). -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | Diesel <me@privacy.net> |
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| Date | 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA971BE02EBAC6HT1@8e2JdLmM3Ez5Bps26z42n51lj2ejF8d05XSss.5yh> |
| In reply to | #118469 |
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> news:pokpcc$fm7$1@dont-email.me Fri, 28 Sep 2018 08:39:40 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: > Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >> >>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has >>> the source code for every app on android. >> >> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code >> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal, >> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe >> does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for >> some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red >> subscribers for). >> >> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at >> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, > > Ok. Let's go there. > > You posit that if an app were illegal Google would block it. > Therefore as new pipe is available from Google it can't be > illegal. That's true. > > However, you're confusing the legality of an object with the > legality of an act using that object or thing. Just because new > pipe isn't illegal doesn't mean you can't use for illegal > activity. They are logically distinct. > > If A is illegal and B is used to commit A, then B is also illegal > *only* if B's only purpose is to enable A. Didn't I already cover this when I wrote: I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually committing copyright infringement when using the application. -- To prevent yourself from being a victim of cyber stalking, it's highly recommended you visit here: https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php =================================================== I had my coat hangers spayed.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-05 07:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pp73vm$rjo$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #118624 |
Diesel <me@privacy.net> wrote: > Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> news:pokpcc$fm7$1@dont-email.me Fri, 28 > Sep 2018 08:39:40 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: > >> Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote: >>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >>> >>>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has >>>> the source code for every app on android. >>> >>> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code >>> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal, >>> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe >>> does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for >>> some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red >>> subscribers for). >>> >>> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at >>> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, >> >> Ok. Let's go there. >> >> You posit that if an app were illegal Google would block it. >> Therefore as new pipe is available from Google it can't be >> illegal. That's true. >> >> However, you're confusing the legality of an object with the >> legality of an act using that object or thing. Just because new >> pipe isn't illegal doesn't mean you can't use for illegal >> activity. They are logically distinct. >> >> If A is illegal and B is used to commit A, then B is also illegal >> *only* if B's only purpose is to enable A. > > Didn't I already cover this when I wrote: > > I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's > perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all > videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually > committing copyright infringement when using the application. Indeed you did. He just didn't get it. I think he does now as in every reply to me he snipped more and more of what I said as he couldn't refute the fact that new pipe might facilitate copyright theft despite it, in itself, being completely legal.
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| From | Diesel <me@privacy.net> |
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| Date | 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA971BE0474280HT1@8e2JdLmM3Ez5Bps26z42n51lj2ejF8d05XSss.5yh> |
| In reply to | #118463 |
Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> news:pojfuc$ip7$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:52:30 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: > >> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has >> the source code for every app on android. > > The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code > that has been available for years, was doing something illegal, > then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe > does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for > some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red > subscribers for). You seem to be more than slightly confused. I wrote: I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually committing copyright infringement when using the application. The tool itself is like a gun, it's a neutral party. It's how you use the tool that determines if your actions are legal or not. > I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at > obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, which is that > Google (IMHO) is most certainly extremely well aware of New Pipe > functionality and source code particulars. Which has nothing to do with what I wrote. -- To prevent yourself from being a victim of cyber stalking, it's highly recommended you visit here: https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php =================================================== 1 There's always one in every crowd.
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| From | Diesel <me@privacy.net> |
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| Date | 2018-10-07 03:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA973F0FC81D54HT1@b376b65b6f203c70neqD.j0D90437> |
| In reply to | #118625 |
Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> news:pp67a9$1al6$2@gioia.aioe.org Thu, 04 Oct 2018 23:21:48 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: > On 2018-10-04 3:29 PM, Diesel wrote: >> Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> >> news:pojfuc$ip7$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:52:30 GMT >> in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >>> >>>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has >>>> the source code for every app on android. >>> >>> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code >>> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal, >>> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New >>> Pipe does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, >>> for some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube >>> Red subscribers for). >> >> You seem to be more than slightly confused. I wrote: >> >> I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's >> perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all >> videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually >> committing copyright infringement when using the application. >> >> The tool itself is like a gun, it's a neutral party. It's how you >> use the tool that determines if your actions are legal or not. >> >>> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at >>> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, which is >>> that Google (IMHO) is most certainly extremely well aware of New >>> Pipe functionality and source code particulars. >> >> Which has nothing to do with what I wrote. >> >> >> > > Have you ever noticed that those who most often use "adult" as an > adjective are almost always the least adult people in a > conversation? > >:-) :) Had my normal filters not been disabled, I wouldn't have seen any of their posts unless someone else quoted them. I'm really not sure why they need the services of a remailer for the "tribal knowledge" they wished to bestow among us simpletons. <G> -- To prevent yourself from being a victim of cyber stalking, it's highly recommended you visit here: https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php =================================================== ANY day above ground is a GREAT one!
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