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  Get Info vs 32/64 bits JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-03 14:32 -0400
    Re: Get Info vs 32/64 bits JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-03 15:24 -0400
    Re: Get Info vs 32/64 bits dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-04 12:59 +1200
      Re: Get Info vs 32/64 bits Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 20:02 -0700
      Re: Get Info vs 32/64 bits Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-04 15:25 +0000
    Re: Get Info vs 32/64 bits Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:04 +0000
      Re: Get Info vs 32/64 bits dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-05 22:58 +1200
        Re: Get Info vs 32/64 bits Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 11:11 +0000
          Re: Get Info vs 32/64 bits dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-06 01:59 +1200
          Re: Get Info vs 32/64 bits Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 07:13 -0700
      Re: Get Info vs 32/64 bits Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 04:03 -0700

#116971 — Get Info vs 32/64 bits

Garmin pushed an update for GDPR compliants fro its Basecamp app.

After upgrading, I got the warning that the app is not optimized.

I hadn't gotten that warning from the previous app. (that I recall).

So I restored the previous app version from backup.

If I do a Get Info on it from the Finder, I got no indication at all of
bitness.

On the other hand, Get Info on Sheepshaver gives me additional info and
ability to open it in 32bit mode (which is required for it to run
properly).


Is there a way to get the "bitness" status of an individual app either
on finder or command line ?

Or is parsing thorugh multiple copies of same app in the System
Information app (or whatever it is called in High Sierra) the only way?

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#116973

Just an FYI:


Installed updated BaseCamp. got the warning about not bieng optimized.

Reverted to previous version. No warning.

Re-installed new version. No Warning.

So it would appear that once a warning has been issued for an app, it
tracked in some database so warning no longer issued afterwards. (as
opposed to a flag in the executable that says "warning alteady issued,
don't issue it anymore".

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#116979

JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Garmin pushed an update for GDPR compliants fro its Basecamp app.
> 
> After upgrading, I got the warning that the app is not optimized.
> 
> I hadn't gotten that warning from the previous app. (that I recall).
> 
> So I restored the previous app version from backup.

As you noted in the followup, that won't help. The system remembers
which applications it has already warned about, probably in a
system-wide preferences file or similar. (Renaming the application
doesn't trigger another warning so it is probably remembering multiple
details to identify the application, but not the version number.)

> If I do a Get Info on it from the Finder, I got no indication at all of
> bitness.
> 
> On the other hand, Get Info on Sheepshaver gives me additional info and
> ability to open it in 32bit mode (which is required for it to run
> properly).

That is because Sheepshaver contains both 64-bit and 32-bit code, and
its Info.plist tells the OS that it can launch in either mode, so Finder
offers the option to open in 32-bit mode.

Finder Get Info doesn't mention whether an application is 32-bit or
64-bit if the application only has one architecture or the other.

> Is there a way to get the "bitness" status of an individual app either
> on finder or command line ?
> 
> Or is parsing thorugh multiple copies of same app in the System
> Information app (or whatever it is called in High Sierra) the only way?

Eject your other drives, use System Information and this time save a
copy of the profile. You can then open it again later to look at what
was installed on your computer at this point in time without seeing
unwanted extra details.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#116980

On Sunday, June 3, 2018 at 5:59:32 PM UTC-7, David Empson wrote:
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> 
> > Garmin pushed an update for GDPR compliants fro its Basecamp app.
> > 
> > After upgrading, I got the warning that the app is not optimized.
> > 
> > I hadn't gotten that warning from the previous app. (that I recall).
> > 
> > So I restored the previous app version from backup.
> 
> As you noted in the followup, that won't help. The system remembers
> which applications it has already warned about, probably in a
> system-wide preferences file or similar. (Renaming the application
> doesn't trigger another warning so it is probably remembering multiple
> details to identify the application, but not the version number.)
> 
> > If I do a Get Info on it from the Finder, I got no indication at all of
> > bitness.
> > 
> > On the other hand, Get Info on Sheepshaver gives me additional info and
> > ability to open it in 32bit mode (which is required for it to run
> > properly).
> 
> That is because Sheepshaver contains both 64-bit and 32-bit code, and
> its Info.plist tells the OS that it can launch in either mode, so Finder
> offers the option to open in 32-bit mode.
> 
> Finder Get Info doesn't mention whether an application is 32-bit or
> 64-bit if the application only has one architecture or the other.
> 
> > Is there a way to get the "bitness" status of an individual app either
> > on finder or command line ?
> > 
> > Or is parsing thorugh multiple copies of same app in the System
> > Information app (or whatever it is called in High Sierra) the only way?
> 
> Eject your other drives, use System Information and this time save a
> copy of the profile. You can then open it again later to look at what
> was installed on your computer at this point in time without seeing
> unwanted extra details.
> 
> -- 
> David Empson
> dempson@actrix.gen.nz



The Underground Marshmallow Person can't get anything else to work, either. I will rope-a-dope you with my brain. Yup. Clearly this is what we have to face. Jerks who have no reason for being here other than to troll. 

Bravo, Slimer, you are now living rent-free inside The Underground Marshmallow Person's beady little brain. LOL The Underground Marshmallow Person does not know if there is a free open source that promotes PEE. 

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#116997

On 2018-06-04, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>> Or is parsing thorugh multiple copies of same app in the System
>> Information app (or whatever it is called in High Sierra) the only way?
>
> Eject your other drives, use System Information and this time save a
> copy of the profile. You can then open it again later to look at what
> was installed on your computer at this point in time without seeing
> unwanted extra details.

"No way! That's rocket surgery!!"

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#117052

In message <CuWQC.187747$T14.7054@fx44.iad> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> Is there a way to get the "bitness" status of an individual app either
> on finder or command line ?

You have been told at least a half-dozen times how to find out if an app
is 32 bit or not.

> Or is parsing thorugh multiple copies of same app in the System
> Information app (or whatever it is called in High Sierra) the only way?

Why do you have multiple copies of the same app?

-- 
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those
with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."

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#117060

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <CuWQC.187747$T14.7054@fx44.iad> JF Mezei
> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > Is there a way to get the "bitness" status of an individual app either
> > on finder or command line ?
> 
> You have been told at least a half-dozen times how to find out if an app
> is 32 bit or not.
> 
> > Or is parsing thorugh multiple copies of same app in the System
> > Information app (or whatever it is called in High Sierra) the only way?
> 
> Why do you have multiple copies of the same app?

That was mentioned in an earlier thread. He has multiple clones of the
startup drive on other drives, all normally mounted. System Information
lists all applications it can find, therefore there are multiple
instances of each application in the list.

The obvious way to deal with that is to eject all the other drives, run
System Information and save a profile which can be referred to later
without having to fiddle with the other drives again. I already
suggested that yesterday.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#117062

In message <1npy1uz.3zsmbk12fuoN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <CuWQC.187747$T14.7054@fx44.iad> JF Mezei
>> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> > Is there a way to get the "bitness" status of an individual app either
>> > on finder or command line ?
>> 
>> You have been told at least a half-dozen times how to find out if an app
>> is 32 bit or not.
>> 
>> > Or is parsing thorugh multiple copies of same app in the System
>> > Information app (or whatever it is called in High Sierra) the only way?
>> 
>> Why do you have multiple copies of the same app?

> That was mentioned in an earlier thread. He has multiple clones of the
> startup drive on other drives, all normally mounted. System Information
> lists all applications it can find, therefore there are multiple
> instances of each application in the list.

I assume many people have told him this is a terrible stupid thing to
do?

> The obvious way to deal with that is to eject all the other drives,

Of course, that is why cloning software has options to auto
mount/dismount clones to prevent problems.

No one he has so many weird issues with his computer.

> run
> System Information and save a profile which can be referred to later
> without having to fiddle with the other drives again. I already
> suggested that yesterday.

Did you make a similar suggestion to a brick wall and a dead cat?
Because either of those is more likely to learn.


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And it's all right, baby it's all right
And it's very far away But it's growing day by day
And it's all right, baby it's all right

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#117070

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <1npy1uz.3zsmbk12fuoN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> David Empson
> <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> >> In message <CuWQC.187747$T14.7054@fx44.iad> JF Mezei
> >> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> >> > Is there a way to get the "bitness" status of an individual app either
> >> > on finder or command line ?
> >> 
> >> You have been told at least a half-dozen times how to find out if an app
> >> is 32 bit or not.
> >> 
> >> > Or is parsing thorugh multiple copies of same app in the System
> >> > Information app (or whatever it is called in High Sierra) the only way?
> >> 
> >> Why do you have multiple copies of the same app?
> 
> > That was mentioned in an earlier thread. He has multiple clones of the
> > startup drive on other drives, all normally mounted. System Information
> > lists all applications it can find, therefore there are multiple
> > instances of each application in the list.
> 
> I assume many people have told him this is a terrible stupid thing to
> do?

I did. It didn't achieve anything as far as he was concerned but I
thought it might at least be informative to someone else reading the
thread.
-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#117071

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 4:11:47 AM UTC-7, Lewis wrote:
> In message <1npy1uz.3zsmbk12fuoN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> >> In message <CuWQC.187747$T14.7054@fx44.iad> JF Mezei
> >> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> >> > Is there a way to get the "bitness" status of an individual app either
> >> > on finder or command line ?
> >> 
> >> You have been told at least a half-dozen times how to find out if an app
> >> is 32 bit or not.
> >> 
> >> > Or is parsing thorugh multiple copies of same app in the System
> >> > Information app (or whatever it is called in High Sierra) the only way?
> >> 
> >> Why do you have multiple copies of the same app?
> 
> > That was mentioned in an earlier thread. He has multiple clones of the
> > startup drive on other drives, all normally mounted. System Information
> > lists all applications it can find, therefore there are multiple
> > instances of each application in the list.
> 
> I assume many people have told him this is a terrible stupid thing to
> do?
> 
> > The obvious way to deal with that is to eject all the other drives,
> 
> Of course, that is why cloning software has options to auto
> mount/dismount clones to prevent problems.
> 
> No one he has so many weird issues with his computer.
> 
> > run
> > System Information and save a profile which can be referred to later
> > without having to fiddle with the other drives again. I already
> > suggested that yesterday.
> 
> Did you make a similar suggestion to a brick wall and a dead cat?
> Because either of those is more likely to learn.
> 
> 
> -- 
> There's a city in my mind Come along and take that ride
> And it's all right, baby it's all right
> And it's very far away But it's growing day by day
> And it's all right, baby it's all right



Why do you keep repeating Steve Carroll? I'm getting false positives in my kill filter. I'm guessing the small-minded circus has gone ballistic again. 

Habits change. Maybe the ubiquity of a newspaper is getting a little dated. What were you thinking? The only way that I could condone Unity's constant demand for tinkering because of undefined troubles or buggy incompatibilities is if I consumed the steady amount of Kool Aid flavors its ads have been feeding Ronb since 2010.

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#117061

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 3:04:20 AM UTC-7, Lewis wrote:
> In message <CuWQC.187747$T14.7054@fx44.iad> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > Is there a way to get the "bitness" status of an individual app either
> > on finder or command line ?
> 
> You have been told at least a half-dozen times how to find out if an app
> is 32 bit or not.
> 
> > Or is parsing thorugh multiple copies of same app in the System
> > Information app (or whatever it is called in High Sierra) the only way?
> 
> Why do you have multiple copies of the same app?
> 
> -- 
> "You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those
> with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."



The guy is as popular as a tax collector -- and with good reason. You guys can only understand from the viewpoint of a programmer. What does it take to end this? Do not get too arrogant, Jonas Eklundh, sometimes "your socks" are just that. 



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