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  WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-22 09:34 -0700
    Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 12:14 -0700
    Re: WWDC JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-05-22 16:30 -0400
      Re: WWDC nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-22 16:46 -0400
      Re: WWDC Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2018-05-23 00:32 +0100
    Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-23 09:06 +1200
      Re: WWDC nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-22 17:10 -0400
        Re: WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-22 19:16 -0700
          Re: WWDC JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-05-23 03:24 -0400
            Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-23 19:49 +1200
              Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 02:53 -0700
                Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 03:51 -0700
            Re: WWDC Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-05-23 22:52 +0000
              Re: WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-24 10:40 -0700
                Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-25 09:12 +1200
                  Re: WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-24 14:19 -0700
                    Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-25 15:50 +1200
                      Re: WWDC android <here@there.was> - 2018-05-25 08:05 +0200
                      Re: WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-25 07:39 -0700
                        Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-26 11:13 +1200
                  Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 16:18 -0700
      Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 17:00 -0700
    Re: WWDC Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-05-23 02:13 +0000
      Re: WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-22 19:30 -0700
        Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-23 18:35 +1200
          Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 00:48 -0700
          Re: WWDC nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-23 08:46 -0400

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#116644

On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 2:12:52 PM UTC-7, Your Name wrote:
> On 2018-05-24 17:40:07 +0000, Peter Kozlov said:
> > On May 23, 2018, Lewis wrote
> > (in article <slrnpgbs4o.2dfd.g.kreme@Snow.local>):
> >> In message<GG8NC.1897$Kp4.1381@fx43.iad>  JF
> >> Mezei<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>  wrote:
> >>> On 2018-05-22 22:16, Peter Kozlov wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> I'd like a screen based keyboard so it can change language easily and
> >>>> office other kinds of controls for software. No more moving parts.
> >>> 
> >>> Ideally, mechannical keyboard as we know it, but keycaps are e-rader
> >>> (e-ink) displays where the character can be changed by software. (so if
> >>> you press shiuft, the keys change to upperchase, and you get to see the
> >>> special characters etc).
> >> 
> >> Seems quite a waste when most people do not look at the keyboard when
> >> they type.
> > 
> > Well, let's you are bilingual and would like to easily switch between two
> > languages. This is effortless on the iPad and iPhone. On the Mac you have
> > physical keys to deal with. How about from Apple's point of view on
> > localization. They have to create a lot of various Macs for different
> > counties. It would be easier to have just one Mac. The customer chooses their
> > language and the characters and layout required by that appear on the screen.
> > You could have profiles where one use gets one localization and another user
> > gets something else entirely.
> > 
> > How about a final cut pro user. The keyboard could be transformed into the
> > controls for FCP. The same for music and other apps. I would to see this at
> > least as an option. I'd go for it. You're millage may vary.
> 
> As I posted before, such keyboards do actually exist (although 
> expensive), but there are also keyboard overlays and key replacements 
> that achieve the same purpose for a limited specific usages.
> 
> But once you've gotten used to the keyboard shortcuts, etc., you rarely 
> actually look at the keyboard, so such options may be useful for the 
> initial learning period, but quickly become rather pointless.
> 
> Then there's Apple's similar 'Touch Bar' gimmick that is barely used by 
> app developers, largely because it's only available on a few laptops 
> and will probably get dropped in a few years (if not sooner).



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Dude, you know Snit's an idiot, right?

I was watching this nature show earlier where all the frogs were leaving the area where the female did her thing save for this one lone male. The lone male is tasked with watching over the tadpoles and a number of them got isolated in a small puddle because the sun was quickly drying things up. With not much more than an hour to act, the male dug a trench between the drying puddle and the larger water area so that the tadpoles could escape their fate. In other words, all the frogs that left, the lone male and the tadpoles are *all* smarter than Snit ;)

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#116570

On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 2:06:30 PM UTC-7, Your Name wrote:
> On 2018-05-22 16:34:26 +0000, Peter Kozlov said:
> > 
> > Wow, WWDC snuck up on me this year. I haven't been keeping up at all.
> > 
> > I'd like to see a completely virtual keyboard on glass similar to the iPad
> > method of on-screen keyboard as an option to the regular keyboard. No one
> > else likes he idea so not holding my breath.So gone are the mechanics of the
> > physical keyboard. Just glass where the keyboard is now and you get a virtual
> > keyboard that can morph as needed.
> 
> Glass / flat keybaodrs are crap to sue for any lenght of time, that's 
> why so many companies sell external keyboards for tablets.
> 
> 
> 
> > Would also like to see Files updated to be closer to Finder on the Mac.
> > 
> > I'd also like the MacBook to get FaceID.
> > 
> > It's also time to see a new Pro machine that is modular.
> 
> That's due next year ... maybe.
> 
> 
> 
> > Lastly, a new iMac that removes all the boarders around the screen
> 
> Borderless displays are pointlessly silly waste of time for most people 
> ... "I gained an extra half an inch of display" ... whoop-de-doo!!   :-\
> (Even sillier are the 'wrap around the edge' displays some fools keep 
> trying to put on mobile phones! All you get is distortion where it 
> curves around the edge.)
> 
> The only time a borderless display would be of any use is for the tiny 
> minority who have multiple displays pushed up against each other to 
> make a larger 'single' display (even then you'll still see a 'join').
> 
> 
> 
> > and consumes less space.
> 
> The only real way to make an iMac take up "less space" is to have a 
> smaller display size, which isn't gonna happen.
> 
> Johny Ive could make the thing even thinner by dumping SSD for storage 
> and simply using RAM chips soldered onto the motherboard ... or even 
> having NO storage at all and forcing people to use external drives or 
> the cloud. (It's not like Apple hasn't dumped internal storage options 
> before - just look at the missing floppy drive on the G3 iMac, and the 
> missing DVD-burners on later iMacs.)



His hope is to see me bothered by idiotic lying. And hey, that could work. 

Having to deal with the use of Wayland would just confuse the general user. 

I would help F 'The Shill' Russell directly but he is a moron who distorts your words to fulfill his aspiration to call everyone a deceiver. F 'The Shill' Russell is the repercussion of the fact that Liberals have been employed to be in charge of instructing young persons. It's not serendipity that he is a stupid Russian sympathizer. 

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#116575

In message <0001HW.20B47E120005406170000445E2CF@news.eternal-september.org> Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> wrote:
> Wow, WWDC snuck up on me this year. I haven’t been keeping up at all.

> I’d like to see a completely virtual keyboard on glass similar to the iPad 
> method of on-screen keyboard as an option to the regular keyboard. No one 
> else likes he idea so not holding my breath.So gone are the mechanics of the 
> physical keyboard. Just glass where the keyboard is now and you get a virtual 
> keyboard that can morph as needed.

Many people like that idea. Probably not around here, but still.

> Would also like to see Files updated to be closer to Finder on the Mac.

That is unlikely to ever happen, but some updates to Files would be
welcome, though it's already quite good.

> I’d also like the MacBook to get FaceID.

Soon, but probably not this year. Maybe the MBP.

> It’s also time to see a new Pro machine that is modular.

Nope. The new Pro machine is the iMac Pro and Apple has already said the
Mac Pro will not be out this year.

> Lastly, a new iMac that removes all the boarders around the screen and 
> consumes less space.

There will almost certainly be a refresh to the retina iMac, but it
will not be changing the form factor, doing so would make the brand new
$5-15,000 iMac Pro look old.

> What are guys hoping for?

Less is more this year. I am looking forward to updates to the things we
have, fixes, maybe better notifications. I want a concentration on less
wonkyness, overall.

For the iMac refresh I'd like to see better GPUs across the line instead
of forcing anyone who wants a decent GPU to buy the highest end iMac.
Not holding my breath on this one though, obvs.


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#116577

On May 22, 2018, Lewis wrote
(in article <slrnpg9jis.nkb.g.kreme@Snow.local>):

> In message<0001HW.20B47E120005406170000445E2CF@news.eternal-september.org>
> Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design>  wrote:
> > Wow, WWDC snuck up on me this year. I haven’t been keeping up at all.
>
> > I’d like to see a completely virtual keyboard on glass similar to the iPad
> > method of on-screen keyboard as an option to the regular keyboard. No one
> > else likes he idea so not holding my breath.So gone are the mechanics of the
> > physical keyboard. Just glass where the keyboard is now and you get a
> > virtual
> > keyboard that can morph as needed.
>
> Many people like that idea. Probably not around here, but still.
>
> > Would also like to see Files updated to be closer to Finder on the Mac.
>
> That is unlikely to ever happen, but some updates to Files would be
> welcome, though it's already quite good.
>
> > I’d also like the MacBook to get FaceID.
>
> Soon, but probably not this year. Maybe the MBP.
>
> > It’s also time to see a new Pro machine that is modular.
>
> Nope. The new Pro machine is the iMac Pro and Apple has already said the
> Mac Pro will not be out this year.
>
> > Lastly, a new iMac that removes all the boarders around the screen and
> > consumes less space.
>
> There will almost certainly be a refresh to the retina iMac, but it
> will not be changing the form factor, doing so would make the brand new
> $5-15,000 iMac Pro look old.

The iMac Pro likely needs all that space for the cooling. But an iMac 
standard could likely shrink to the size of the screen with a very slight 
boarder, thus making it smaller while keeping the same screen size.
> > What are guys hoping for?
>
> Less is more this year. I am looking forward to updates to the things we
> have, fixes, maybe better notifications. I want a concentration on less
> wonkyness, overall.
>
> For the iMac refresh I'd like to see better GPUs across the line instead
> of forcing anyone who wants a decent GPU to buy the highest end iMac.
> Not holding my breath on this one though, obvs.

I was thinking the whole GPU thing could just go external via Thunderbolt. 
You buy the price-point you need and add the GPU after. You could also 
upgrade the GPU while keeping the same overall machine. It’s the benefit of 
a tower without the bulk of a tower.

-- 
Peter Kozlov

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#116588

On 2018-05-23 02:30:12 +0000, Peter Kozlov said:
> On May 22, 2018, Lewis wrote
> (in article <slrnpg9jis.nkb.g.kreme@Snow.local>):
> 
>> In message<0001HW.20B47E120005406170000445E2CF@news.eternal-september.org>
>> Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design>  wrote:
>>> Wow, WWDC snuck up on me this year. I haven't been keeping up at all.
>> 
>>> I'd like to see a completely virtual keyboard on glass similar to the iPad
>>> method of on-screen keyboard as an option to the regular keyboard. No one
>>> else likes he idea so not holding my breath.So gone are the mechanics of the
>>> physical keyboard. Just glass where the keyboard is now and you get a
>>> virtual
>>> keyboard that can morph as needed.
>> 
>> Many people like that idea. Probably not around here, but still.
>> 
>>> Would also like to see Files updated to be closer to Finder on the Mac.
>> 
>> That is unlikely to ever happen, but some updates to Files would be
>> welcome, though it's already quite good.
>> 
>>> I'd also like the MacBook to get FaceID.
>> 
>> Soon, but probably not this year. Maybe the MBP.
>> 
>>> It's also time to see a new Pro machine that is modular.
>> 
>> Nope. The new Pro machine is the iMac Pro and Apple has already said the
>> Mac Pro will not be out this year.
>> 
>>> Lastly, a new iMac that removes all the boarders around the screen and
>>> consumes less space.
>> 
>> There will almost certainly be a refresh to the retina iMac, but it
>> will not be changing the form factor, doing so would make the brand new
>> $5-15,000 iMac Pro look old.
> 
> The iMac Pro likely needs all that space for the cooling. But an iMac
> standard could likely shrink to the size of the screen with a very slight
> boarder, thus making it smaller while keeping the same screen size.

The border around the display itself adds almost nothing to the size of 
the iMac. At *most* you'd save less than 1 inch vertically and 1 inch 
horizontally.

The exception vertically is the massive "chin". Remove that and you 
would get a "smaller" iMac ... of course you'd probably have to prop it 
up on a stand to get the display to the correct level and end up with a 
massive gap underneath it anway, so in reality you'll only gain a bit 
of storage space.




>>> What are guys hoping for?
>> 
>> Less is more this year. I am looking forward to updates to the things we
>> have, fixes, maybe better notifications. I want a concentration on less
>> wonkyness, overall.
>> 
>> For the iMac refresh I'd like to see better GPUs across the line instead
>> of forcing anyone who wants a decent GPU to buy the highest end iMac.
>> Not holding my breath on this one though, obvs.
> 
> I was thinking the whole GPU thing could just go external via Thunderbolt.
> You buy the price-point you need and add the GPU after. You could also
> upgrade the GPU while keeping the same overall machine. It's the benefit of
> a tower without the bulk of a tower.

Much better would be to get back to a user-upgradable computer that can 
be easily opened and have standard graphics cards (as well as RAM, 
drives, CPU, etc.) replaced as and when wanted ... of couse that's 
never going to happen, partly thanks to brainless Johny Ive.

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#116590

On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 11:35:33 PM UTC-7, Your Name wrote:
> On 2018-05-23 02:30:12 +0000, Peter Kozlov said:
> > On May 22, 2018, Lewis wrote
> > (in article <slrnpg9jis.nkb.g.kreme@Snow.local>):
> > 
> >> In message<0001HW.20B47E120005406170000445E2CF@news.eternal-september.org>
> >> Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design>  wrote:
> >>> Wow, WWDC snuck up on me this year. I haven't been keeping up at all.
> >> 
> >>> I'd like to see a completely virtual keyboard on glass similar to the iPad
> >>> method of on-screen keyboard as an option to the regular keyboard. No one
> >>> else likes he idea so not holding my breath.So gone are the mechanics of the
> >>> physical keyboard. Just glass where the keyboard is now and you get a
> >>> virtual
> >>> keyboard that can morph as needed.
> >> 
> >> Many people like that idea. Probably not around here, but still.
> >> 
> >>> Would also like to see Files updated to be closer to Finder on the Mac.
> >> 
> >> That is unlikely to ever happen, but some updates to Files would be
> >> welcome, though it's already quite good.
> >> 
> >>> I'd also like the MacBook to get FaceID.
> >> 
> >> Soon, but probably not this year. Maybe the MBP.
> >> 
> >>> It's also time to see a new Pro machine that is modular.
> >> 
> >> Nope. The new Pro machine is the iMac Pro and Apple has already said the
> >> Mac Pro will not be out this year.
> >> 
> >>> Lastly, a new iMac that removes all the boarders around the screen and
> >>> consumes less space.
> >> 
> >> There will almost certainly be a refresh to the retina iMac, but it
> >> will not be changing the form factor, doing so would make the brand new
> >> $5-15,000 iMac Pro look old.
> > 
> > The iMac Pro likely needs all that space for the cooling. But an iMac
> > standard could likely shrink to the size of the screen with a very slight
> > boarder, thus making it smaller while keeping the same screen size.
> 
> The border around the display itself adds almost nothing to the size of 
> the iMac. At *most* you'd save less than 1 inch vertically and 1 inch 
> horizontally.
> 
> The exception vertically is the massive "chin". Remove that and you 
> would get a "smaller" iMac ... of course you'd probably have to prop it 
> up on a stand to get the display to the correct level and end up with a 
> massive gap underneath it anway, so in reality you'll only gain a bit 
> of storage space.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >>> What are guys hoping for?
> >> 
> >> Less is more this year. I am looking forward to updates to the things we
> >> have, fixes, maybe better notifications. I want a concentration on less
> >> wonkyness, overall.
> >> 
> >> For the iMac refresh I'd like to see better GPUs across the line instead
> >> of forcing anyone who wants a decent GPU to buy the highest end iMac.
> >> Not holding my breath on this one though, obvs.
> > 
> > I was thinking the whole GPU thing could just go external via Thunderbolt.
> > You buy the price-point you need and add the GPU after. You could also
> > upgrade the GPU while keeping the same overall machine. It's the benefit of
> > a tower without the bulk of a tower.
> 
> Much better would be to get back to a user-upgradable computer that can 
> be easily opened and have standard graphics cards (as well as RAM, 
> drives, CPU, etc.) replaced as and when wanted ... of couse that's 
> never going to happen, partly thanks to brainless Johny Ive.



Like the other trolls in COLA, John Gohde relies on the MSM to form beliefs on the news. As such, he only believes and speaks of the sanctioned stories which also happens to be the ones which paint using evidence in a falsely auspicious and respectable view. 

How is GIMP on Linux doing anything above the lowest common denominator? Who *doesn't* know that this kind of lies is John Gohde's approach, not the MO of Zeus? It is all just projection... the endless posting, the sock puppets, the writing of drivel, the tantrums... the diaper rash and willingness to show how embarrassed he is over being booted from the playground for shitting in it again... all of it. 

Promotion is a wonderful thing and consumer herd mentality is even better. 

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#116594

In article <pe323h$1qu3$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> 
> Much better would be to get back to a user-upgradable computer that can 
> be easily opened and have standard graphics cards (as well as RAM, 
> drives, CPU, etc.) replaced as and when wanted ... of couse that's 
> never going to happen, partly thanks to brainless Johny Ive.

nope. it's because very few people actually do that.

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