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  A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement.  Juan I. Cahis <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-08 20:31 -0500
    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement.  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-08 18:59 -0700
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) - 2015-04-09 02:41 +0000
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-08 20:12 -0700
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-04-09 01:18 -0400
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-08 22:31 -0700
              Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 14:00 +0000
                Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 08:53 -0700
                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 17:24 +0000
                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 10:48 -0700
                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-09 14:39 -0400
                        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 23:01 +0000
                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:59 +0000
                        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 10:08 -0400
                          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-10 15:22 +0000
                            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 11:58 -0400
                              Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 11:27 +0000
                                Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 09:21 -0400
                                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 10:42 -0400
                                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 15:39 +0000
                                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 13:01 -0400
                                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 14:18 -0400
                                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 21:57 +0000
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 13:39 +0000
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 08:51 -0700
              Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 17:21 +0000
                Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-09 13:27 -0400
                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:53 +0000
                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 10:12 -0400
                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-10 20:00 -0700
                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. David Fritzinger <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-10 09:22 -0400
                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-10 15:19 +0000
                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. David Fritzinger <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-10 13:46 -0400
                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 11:24 +0000
                Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 10:39 -0700
                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:54 +0000
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-08 21:30 -0700
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-08 21:52 -0700
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. David Fritzinger <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-09 10:58 -0400
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 09:00 -0700
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-09 12:02 -0400
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 09:16 -0700
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 17:34 +0000
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. David Fritzinger <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-09 18:46 -0400
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 17:31 +0000
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-09 12:17 -0700
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 12:35 -0700
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-09 17:30 -0700
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-09 18:17 -0700
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-09 18:54 -0700
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 17:08 -0400
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-09 22:10 +0100
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 17:11 -0400
              Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-09 23:06 +0100
                Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-10 00:48 -0400
            Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-10 11:55 +0000
              Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-04-10 10:59 -0400
                Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-19 08:33 +1200
                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-04-19 17:33 -0400
                  Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-19 16:53 -0500
                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-19 22:59 +0100
                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 15:24 -0700
                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-20 12:21 -0500
                        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-20 14:44 -0500
                          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-20 16:18 -0500
                          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-21 19:00 -0500
                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-20 10:51 +1200
                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-19 16:59 -0700
                        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-20 03:26 +0000
                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-20 12:20 -0500
                    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-20 03:40 +0000
                      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-20 12:15 -0500
                        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 10:23 -0700
                          Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-20 13:49 -0500
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-10 00:41 -0400
    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-09 14:06 +1200
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-09 12:00 -0400
    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 12:50 +0000
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-09 10:19 -0400
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 10:41 -0400
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 17:17 +0000
    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-04-10 07:34 -0400
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 10:14 -0400
    Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. pixel_a_ted <pixel_a_ted@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-20 19:31 -0700
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-20 23:53 -0400
        Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-21 09:45 -0400
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-21 07:14 -0400
      Re: A question of today's Yosemite update regarding iPhoto and its replacement. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-21 18:46 -0500

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#73088

In article <slrnmiig34.24ag.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <55291fd5$0$2945$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com> 
>   Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <slrnmii1an.vn7.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> >> Classic goal post moving there, Warren. Really, worthy of some of our
> >> worst trolls.
> >> 
> >> I *know* you're not a troll, but you sure do have some sort of stick up
> >> your butt about Photos vs iPhoto.
> 
> > No I don't -- I don't use iPhoto at all.
> 
> Then why do you keep insisting that iPhoto is better than Photos.

Here's why. The upgrade to 10.10.3 comes with Photos. Okay, I'll try it. 
Oh, but (ehlo) it won't import any of our iPhoto libraries, not even the 
one that I created with 10.10.2. So, it's a piece of fucking shit from 
the start. I'm glad I did the upgrade on a test machine, because we'll 
be sticking with Mavericks on our real machine(s). 

So, iPhoto is 100% better than Photos BECAUSE WE CAN'T FUCKING USE 
PHOTOS with our iPhoto libraries. 

Jesus-H-Fucking-Christ.

Apparently, under the watchful gaze of Dead Steve, if you haven't 
upgraded your iPhoto to 9.6.3, then you've been royally butt-fucked by a 
greedy and stupid Big American Company. I can probably find a pirate 
copy of 9.6.3 somewhere, but.


Here come the clamheads ...
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#73091

In article <55295351$0$59534$b1db1813$46decd27@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > No I don't -- I don't use iPhoto at all.
> > 
> > Then why do you keep insisting that iPhoto is better than Photos.
> 
> Here's why. The upgrade to 10.10.3 comes with Photos. Okay, I'll try it. 
> Oh, but (ehlo) it won't import any of our iPhoto libraries, not even the 
> one that I created with 10.10.2. So, it's a piece of fucking shit from 
> the start. I'm glad I did the upgrade on a test machine, because we'll 
> be sticking with Mavericks on our real machine(s). 

it absolutely will import an iphoto library as well as an aperture
library.

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#73104

In message <55295351$0$59534$b1db1813$46decd27@news.astraweb.com> 
  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnmiig34.24ag.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <55291fd5$0$2945$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com> 
>>   Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <slrnmii1an.vn7.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> 
>> >> Classic goal post moving there, Warren. Really, worthy of some of our
>> >> worst trolls.
>> >> 
>> >> I *know* you're not a troll, but you sure do have some sort of stick up
>> >> your butt about Photos vs iPhoto.
>> 
>> > No I don't -- I don't use iPhoto at all.
>> 
>> Then why do you keep insisting that iPhoto is better than Photos.

> Here's why. The upgrade to 10.10.3 comes with Photos. Okay, I'll try it. 
> Oh, but (ehlo) it won't import any of our iPhoto libraries, not even the 
> one that I created with 10.10.2. So, it's a piece of fucking shit from 
> the start. I'm glad I did the upgrade on a test machine, because we'll 
> be sticking with Mavericks on our real machine(s). 

OK, that is an actual problem, which you've never mentioned. However,
that is certainly not typical.

> Apparently, under the watchful gaze of Dead Steve, if you haven't 
> upgraded your iPhoto to 9.6.3, then you've been royally butt-fucked by a 
> greedy and stupid Big American Company. I can probably find a pirate 
> copy of 9.6.3 somewhere, but.

I have 9.6.1 which the App Store claims is the latest.

If you are using a much older version of iPhoto then I am not at all
surprised that Photos will not update your library. I would also not be
surprised if a future version of Photos was able to update older iPhoto
libraries, but I would not count on it.

*ANY* Version of iPhoto on your computer should be able to update via
Software update to 9.6.1 though.


-- 
Nothing says poor craftsmanship more than wrinkled duct tape.

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#72923

In message <2015040820120765138-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com> 
  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2015-04-09 02:41:31 +0000, Brian Gordon said:

>> In article <2015040818595459285-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
>> Savageduck  <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>> On 2015-04-09 01:31:54 +0000, Juan I. Cahis said:
>>> 
>>>> Dear friends:
>>>> 
>>>> I understand that Yosemite today's update replaces Aperture and iPhoto by a
>>>> new Apple product.
>>>> 
>>>> But are Aperture or iPhoto *deleted* from the Mac's hard disk when
>>>> upgrading? Or can both products be used after upgrading?
>>>> 
>>>> If you did the upgrade, could you check this issue for me?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks a lot again.
>>> 
>>> I never installed Aperture as I have a Lightroom-Photoshop workflow.
>>> However, I had iPhoto, unused, in mothballs, and gathering dust in my
>>> Applications folder. It has vanished since my update to OSX 10.10.3,
>>> and seems to have gone off to that wasteland for End of Life apps.
>>> I imagine that since Aperture was payware Apple cannot arbitarily
>>> remove it from an owner's hard drive. It can just make it inoperable
>>> with future OSX updates.
>>> 
>> 
>> Interesting.  I installed the update, and iPhoto is still there.  I've never
>> used it either.

> I have just searched my entire system for iPhoto and all I could find 
> was an antique version on an old backup drive. I don't have a trace or 
> even a lingering bouquet of my last working edition of iPhoto, which 
> was functioning under OSX 10.10.2.

> I just checked on *Photos* and it seems to me that Apple has thrown in 
> the towel when it comes to digital imaging software. Even on iOS 
> devices Pixelmator, Snapseed, and the various Adobe offerings leave 
> what Apple has delivered in the dust. That is kind of sad, considering 
> the potential they had with Aperture.

Look better. Photos has 1) much better editing that iPhoto did and 2)
supports plugins from apps like Pixelmator, Flare 2, and others which
means that, effectively, it will be MUCH better.

We'll have to wait a bit on the extensions, I suppose. But probably not
too long.

-- 
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cause marvels. Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies. Elves are
glamorous. They project glamour. Elves are enchanting. They weave
enchantment. Elves are terrific. They beget terror.

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#72930

On 2015-04-09 13:39:58 +0000, Lewis said:

> In message <2015040820120765138-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>
>   Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-04-09 02:41:31 +0000, Brian Gordon said:
>>> In article <2015040818595459285-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
>>> Savageduck  <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2015-04-09 01:31:54 +0000, Juan I. Cahis said:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dear friends:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I understand that Yosemite today's update replaces Aperture and iPhoto by a
>>>>> new Apple product.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But are Aperture or iPhoto *deleted* from the Mac's hard disk when
>>>>> upgrading? Or can both products be used after upgrading?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you did the upgrade, could you check this issue for me?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks a lot again.
>>>> 
>>>> I never installed Aperture as I have a Lightroom-Photoshop workflow.
>>>> However, I had iPhoto, unused, in mothballs, and gathering dust in my
>>>> Applications folder. It has vanished since my update to OSX 10.10.3,
>>>> and seems to have gone off to that wasteland for End of Life apps.
>>>> I imagine that since Aperture was payware Apple cannot arbitarily
>>>> remove it from an owner's hard drive. It can just make it inoperable
>>>> with future OSX updates.
>>> 
>>> Interesting.  I installed the update, and iPhoto is still there.  I've never
>>> used it either.
> 
>> I have just searched my entire system for iPhoto and all I could find
>> was an antique version on an old backup drive. I don't have a trace or
>> even a lingering bouquet of my last working edition of iPhoto, which
>> was functioning under OSX 10.10.2.
> 
>> I just checked on *Photos* and it seems to me that Apple has thrown in
>> the towel when it comes to digital imaging software. Even on iOS
>> devices Pixelmator, Snapseed, and the various Adobe offerings leave
>> what Apple has delivered in the dust. That is kind of sad, considering
>> the potential they had with Aperture.
> 
> Look better. Photos has 1) much better editing that iPhoto did and 2)
> supports plugins from apps like Pixelmator, Flare 2, and others which
> means that, effectively, it will be MUCH better.
> 
> We'll have to wait a bit on the extensions, I suppose. But probably not
> too long.

Regardless iPhoto is gone from this Mac after the 10.10.3 update and I 
don't know why, or where it might have gone, and it is not going to 
cause me any particular distress other than the lingering mystery.

This is just my opinion. Photos seems to me to be an OSX interpretation 
of the iOS Photos app, and intended for iOS device photo shooters. It 
has the equivalent of the Camera Roll library with the same editing 
features found in the iOS app.
Trackpad gestures provide the same touch screen navigation feel found 
on iOS devices. Very nice to give those iPhone photographers an easy 
learning curve to climb, but it just cannot be compared to what was 
provided by the dead apps Aperture & iPhoto.

None of that makes Photos a particularly good photo editor, or image 
library. Having the ability to use plug-ins in such a tool is a patch 
job. Rather just use Pixelmator, Affinity Photo, or Lightroom &/or 
Photoshop CC or Elements. I can't see any user of a digital camera who 
shoots RAW files ever considering Photos.
For me, I am not going to waste much more time with Photos, especially 
since photographs from my iPhone are automatically synced to my desktop 
Lightroom 5 via Lightroom Mobile.



-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#72938

In message <2015040908513464242-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com> 
  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2015-04-09 13:39:58 +0000, Lewis said:

>> In message <2015040820120765138-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>
>>   Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>> On 2015-04-09 02:41:31 +0000, Brian Gordon said:
>>>> In article <2015040818595459285-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
>>>> Savageduck  <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-04-09 01:31:54 +0000, Juan I. Cahis said:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear friends:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I understand that Yosemite today's update replaces Aperture and iPhoto by a
>>>>>> new Apple product.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But are Aperture or iPhoto *deleted* from the Mac's hard disk when
>>>>>> upgrading? Or can both products be used after upgrading?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you did the upgrade, could you check this issue for me?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks a lot again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I never installed Aperture as I have a Lightroom-Photoshop workflow.
>>>>> However, I had iPhoto, unused, in mothballs, and gathering dust in my
>>>>> Applications folder. It has vanished since my update to OSX 10.10.3,
>>>>> and seems to have gone off to that wasteland for End of Life apps.
>>>>> I imagine that since Aperture was payware Apple cannot arbitarily
>>>>> remove it from an owner's hard drive. It can just make it inoperable
>>>>> with future OSX updates.
>>>> 
>>>> Interesting.  I installed the update, and iPhoto is still there.  I've never
>>>> used it either.
>> 
>>> I have just searched my entire system for iPhoto and all I could find
>>> was an antique version on an old backup drive. I don't have a trace or
>>> even a lingering bouquet of my last working edition of iPhoto, which
>>> was functioning under OSX 10.10.2.
>> 
>>> I just checked on *Photos* and it seems to me that Apple has thrown in
>>> the towel when it comes to digital imaging software. Even on iOS
>>> devices Pixelmator, Snapseed, and the various Adobe offerings leave
>>> what Apple has delivered in the dust. That is kind of sad, considering
>>> the potential they had with Aperture.
>> 
>> Look better. Photos has 1) much better editing that iPhoto did and 2)
>> supports plugins from apps like Pixelmator, Flare 2, and others which
>> means that, effectively, it will be MUCH better.
>> 
>> We'll have to wait a bit on the extensions, I suppose. But probably not
>> too long.

> Regardless iPhoto is gone from this Mac after the 10.10.3 update and I 
> don't know why, or where it might have gone, and it is not going to 
> cause me any particular distress other than the lingering mystery.

> This is just my opinion. Photos seems to me to be an OSX interpretation 
> of the iOS Photos app, and intended for iOS device photo shooters. It 
> has the equivalent of the Camera Roll library with the same editing 
> features found in the iOS app.

It has quite advanced editing features though. Much more than iPhoto.

> Trackpad gestures provide the same touch screen navigation feel found 
> on iOS devices. Very nice to give those iPhone photographers an easy 
> learning curve to climb, but it just cannot be compared to what was 
> provided by the dead apps Aperture & iPhoto.

What did iPhoto let you do that Photos doesn't? I haven't found
anything at all in a couple of months.

-- 
BUGS: There is no conversion specification for the phase of the moon."
strftime(3) man page

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#72940

In article <slrnmidd9s.9pt.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> What did iPhoto let you do that Photos doesn't? I haven't found
> anything at all in a couple of months.

I've seen it mentioned here that the concept of "events" has been 
removed. I don't use iPhoto, but the wife uses it and uses the "events."

So what happens when you import your iPhoto library into Photos?

The thing is, I'll leave Mavericks on the iMac until I check out Photos 
on the MBP (which already has Yosemite installed).
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#72955

In message <5526b669$0$44867$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com> 
  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnmidd9s.9pt.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> What did iPhoto let you do that Photos doesn't? I haven't found
>> anything at all in a couple of months.

> I've seen it mentioned here that the concept of "events" has been 
> removed. I don't use iPhoto, but the wife uses it and uses the "events."

> So what happens when you import your iPhoto library into Photos?

Pictures are split up into groups depending on the level you're looking
at, just like in iOS. If you are lloking at the whole library, you will
see groups of years. If I click on 2013 I see groups for Yellowstone,
Cody, Little Bighorn Battlefiled, Devil's Tower, Mount Rushmore, a group
for Denver and Colorado Springs, etc right up through Christmas.

If I click on one of those groups, I get finer granularity and more
groups with fewer pictures in them. Yellowstone breaks out to Mamoth,
Old Faithful, etc.

> The thing is, I'll leave Mavericks on the iMac until I check out Photos 
> on the MBP (which already has Yosemite installed).

Photos does not alter your iPhoto (or Aperture) Library, so it's pretty
much safe to fuck around with it.

And, of course, you'll have backups of the library anyway...


-- 
"Let's get back to syntax of procmail and forget the syntax of fools."
Don

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#72997

In article <slrnmie0ok.9pt.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> And, of course, you'll have backups of the library anyway...

Well, yeah. In a couple of places. It's not about backups of the iPhoto 
libraries. The oul' Woman will have a serious 
beat-me-around-the-head-and-shoulders moment if her frames of reference 
disappear. So, one can still use iPhoto even if one has upgraded?
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#73047

On 4/10/15   PDT 7:12 AM, Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <slrnmie0ok.9pt.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>> And, of course, you'll have backups of the library anyway...
>
> Well, yeah. In a couple of places. It's not about backups of the iPhoto
> libraries. The oul' Woman will have a serious
> beat-me-around-the-head-and-shoulders moment if her frames of reference
> disappear. So, one can still use iPhoto even if one has upgraded?

That's my understanding. Probably a good idea to deep six Photos* so it 
doesn't get launched accidentally and work put in that won't translate 
back to iPhotos.

I am rolling over to Photos, can't get excited one way or another.


* Safer bet: compress it then trash the app.

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#72993

On 2015-04-09 17:27:05 +0000, Warren Oates said:

> In article <slrnmidd9s.9pt.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
>> What did iPhoto let you do that Photos doesn't? I haven't found
>> anything at all in a couple of months.
> 
> I've seen it mentioned here that the concept of "events" has been 
> removed. I don't use iPhoto, but the wife uses it and uses the "events."
> 
> So what happens when you import your iPhoto library into Photos?

What happens is that you lose the events. This is very bad for me, 
since "events" is how I described the theme of a group of pictures.
> 
> The thing is, I'll leave Mavericks on the iMac until I check out Photos 
> on the MBP (which already has Yosemite installed).

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#73002

In message <mg8iom$bsf$1@dont-email.me> 
  David Fritzinger <email@domain.com> wrote:
> On 2015-04-09 17:27:05 +0000, Warren Oates said:

>> In article <slrnmidd9s.9pt.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> 
>>> What did iPhoto let you do that Photos doesn't? I haven't found
>>> anything at all in a couple of months.
>> 
>> I've seen it mentioned here that the concept of "events" has been 
>> removed. I don't use iPhoto, but the wife uses it and uses the "events."
>> 
>> So what happens when you import your iPhoto library into Photos?

> What happens is that you lose the events.

That is incorrect.

Events in iPhoto are converted to albums in Photos and placed in an
'iPhoto Events" folder.

The only thing you actually LOSE moving to Photos is star ratings. There
are some things you can't do in Photos that you could do in iPhoto (like
edit/add geolocation info)

-- 
Indecision is the key to flexibility.

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#73023

On 2015-04-10 13:22:22 +0000, David Fritzinger said:

> On 2015-04-09 17:27:05 +0000, Warren Oates said:
> 
>> In article <slrnmidd9s.9pt.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> 
>>> What did iPhoto let you do that Photos doesn't? I haven't found
>>> anything at all in a couple of months.
>> 
>> I've seen it mentioned here that the concept of "events" has been 
>> removed. I don't use iPhoto, but the wife uses it and uses the "events."
>> 
>> So what happens when you import your iPhoto library into Photos?
> 
> What happens is that you lose the events. This is very bad for me, 
> since "events" is how I described the theme of a group of pictures.

I think I solved my problem here. Open "Albums", then under "My Albums" 
you'll see "iPhoto Events". All the event information from iPhoto is 
there
>> 
>> The thing is, I'll leave Mavericks on the iMac until I check out Photos 
>> on the MBP (which already has Yosemite installed).

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#73054

In message <mg927g$9fu$1@dont-email.me> 
  David Fritzinger <email@domain.com> wrote:
> On 2015-04-10 13:22:22 +0000, David Fritzinger said:

>> On 2015-04-09 17:27:05 +0000, Warren Oates said:
>> 
>>> In article <slrnmidd9s.9pt.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>>> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What did iPhoto let you do that Photos doesn't? I haven't found
>>>> anything at all in a couple of months.
>>> 
>>> I've seen it mentioned here that the concept of "events" has been 
>>> removed. I don't use iPhoto, but the wife uses it and uses the "events."
>>> 
>>> So what happens when you import your iPhoto library into Photos?
>> 
>> What happens is that you lose the events. This is very bad for me, 
>> since "events" is how I described the theme of a group of pictures.

> I think I solved my problem here. Open "Albums", then under "My Albums" 
> you'll see "iPhoto Events". All the event information from iPhoto is 
> there

Yes. Basically everything Warren has said about the Photos app has been
entirely wrong.

-- 
There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary
and those who don't.

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#72943

On 2015-04-09 17:21:09 +0000, Lewis said:

> In message <2015040908513464242-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>
>   Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-04-09 13:39:58 +0000, Lewis said:
>>> In message <2015040820120765138-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>
>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2015-04-09 02:41:31 +0000, Brian Gordon said:
>>>>> In article <2015040818595459285-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
>>>>> Savageduck  <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-04-09 01:31:54 +0000, Juan I. Cahis said:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear friends:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I understand that Yosemite today's update replaces Aperture and iPhoto by a
>>>>>>> new Apple product.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But are Aperture or iPhoto *deleted* from the Mac's hard disk when
>>>>>>> upgrading? Or can both products be used after upgrading?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you did the upgrade, could you check this issue for me?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks a lot again.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I never installed Aperture as I have a Lightroom-Photoshop workflow.
>>>>>> However, I had iPhoto, unused, in mothballs, and gathering dust in my
>>>>>> Applications folder. It has vanished since my update to OSX 10.10.3,
>>>>>> and seems to have gone off to that wasteland for End of Life apps.
>>>>>> I imagine that since Aperture was payware Apple cannot arbitarily
>>>>>> remove it from an owner's hard drive. It can just make it inoperable
>>>>>> with future OSX updates.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting.  I installed the update, and iPhoto is still there.  I've never
>>>>> used it either.
>>> 
>>>> I have just searched my entire system for iPhoto and all I could find
>>>> was an antique version on an old backup drive. I don't have a trace or
>>>> even a lingering bouquet of my last working edition of iPhoto, which
>>>> was functioning under OSX 10.10.2.
>>> 
>>>> I just checked on *Photos* and it seems to me that Apple has thrown in
>>>> the towel when it comes to digital imaging software. Even on iOS
>>>> devices Pixelmator, Snapseed, and the various Adobe offerings leave
>>>> what Apple has delivered in the dust. That is kind of sad, considering
>>>> the potential they had with Aperture.
>>> 
>>> Look better. Photos has 1) much better editing that iPhoto did and 2)
>>> supports plugins from apps like Pixelmator, Flare 2, and others which
>>> means that, effectively, it will be MUCH better.
>>> 
>>> We'll have to wait a bit on the extensions, I suppose. But probably not
>>> too long.
> 
>> Regardless iPhoto is gone from this Mac after the 10.10.3 update and I
>> don't know why, or where it might have gone, and it is not going to
>> cause me any particular distress other than the lingering mystery.
> 
>> This is just my opinion. Photos seems to me to be an OSX interpretation
>> of the iOS Photos app, and intended for iOS device photo shooters. It
>> has the equivalent of the Camera Roll library with the same editing
>> features found in the iOS app.
> 
> It has quite advanced editing features though. Much more than iPhoto.
> 
>> Trackpad gestures provide the same touch screen navigation feel found
>> on iOS devices. Very nice to give those iPhone photographers an easy
>> learning curve to climb, but it just cannot be compared to what was
>> provided by the dead apps Aperture & iPhoto.
> 
> What did iPhoto let you do that Photos doesn't? I haven't found
> anything at all in a couple of months.

Let's face it, neither one was/is particularly good. Basic yes, but 
that is about it, and I'll concede that Photos has added some filter 
effects features. If that is all you need for posting your iPhone pix 
to Facetime or Twitter aftersome rudimentary tweaking then Photos will 
probably be just fine for you.

For me, just as iPhoto didn't provide what I needed, neither does 
Photos, so for now I will stick to my Lightroom+Photoshop workflow.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#72956

In message <2015040910392274788-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com> 
  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2015-04-09 17:21:09 +0000, Lewis said:

>> In message <2015040908513464242-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>
>>   Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>> On 2015-04-09 13:39:58 +0000, Lewis said:
>>>> In message <2015040820120765138-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>
>>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-04-09 02:41:31 +0000, Brian Gordon said:
>>>>>> In article <2015040818595459285-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
>>>>>> Savageduck  <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2015-04-09 01:31:54 +0000, Juan I. Cahis said:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dear friends:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I understand that Yosemite today's update replaces Aperture and iPhoto by a
>>>>>>>> new Apple product.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But are Aperture or iPhoto *deleted* from the Mac's hard disk when
>>>>>>>> upgrading? Or can both products be used after upgrading?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you did the upgrade, could you check this issue for me?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I never installed Aperture as I have a Lightroom-Photoshop workflow.
>>>>>>> However, I had iPhoto, unused, in mothballs, and gathering dust in my
>>>>>>> Applications folder. It has vanished since my update to OSX 10.10.3,
>>>>>>> and seems to have gone off to that wasteland for End of Life apps.
>>>>>>> I imagine that since Aperture was payware Apple cannot arbitarily
>>>>>>> remove it from an owner's hard drive. It can just make it inoperable
>>>>>>> with future OSX updates.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Interesting.  I installed the update, and iPhoto is still there.  I've never
>>>>>> used it either.
>>>> 
>>>>> I have just searched my entire system for iPhoto and all I could find
>>>>> was an antique version on an old backup drive. I don't have a trace or
>>>>> even a lingering bouquet of my last working edition of iPhoto, which
>>>>> was functioning under OSX 10.10.2.
>>>> 
>>>>> I just checked on *Photos* and it seems to me that Apple has thrown in
>>>>> the towel when it comes to digital imaging software. Even on iOS
>>>>> devices Pixelmator, Snapseed, and the various Adobe offerings leave
>>>>> what Apple has delivered in the dust. That is kind of sad, considering
>>>>> the potential they had with Aperture.
>>>> 
>>>> Look better. Photos has 1) much better editing that iPhoto did and 2)
>>>> supports plugins from apps like Pixelmator, Flare 2, and others which
>>>> means that, effectively, it will be MUCH better.
>>>> 
>>>> We'll have to wait a bit on the extensions, I suppose. But probably not
>>>> too long.
>> 
>>> Regardless iPhoto is gone from this Mac after the 10.10.3 update and I
>>> don't know why, or where it might have gone, and it is not going to
>>> cause me any particular distress other than the lingering mystery.
>> 
>>> This is just my opinion. Photos seems to me to be an OSX interpretation
>>> of the iOS Photos app, and intended for iOS device photo shooters. It
>>> has the equivalent of the Camera Roll library with the same editing
>>> features found in the iOS app.
>> 
>> It has quite advanced editing features though. Much more than iPhoto.
>> 
>>> Trackpad gestures provide the same touch screen navigation feel found
>>> on iOS devices. Very nice to give those iPhone photographers an easy
>>> learning curve to climb, but it just cannot be compared to what was
>>> provided by the dead apps Aperture & iPhoto.
>> 
>> What did iPhoto let you do that Photos doesn't? I haven't found
>> anything at all in a couple of months.

> Let's face it, neither one was/is particularly good. Basic yes, but 
> that is about it, and I'll concede that Photos has added some filter 
> effects features. If that is all you need for posting your iPhone pix 
> to Facetime or Twitter aftersome rudimentary tweaking then Photos will 
> probably be just fine for you.

> For me, just as iPhoto didn't provide what I needed, neither does 
> Photos, so for now I will stick to my Lightroom+Photoshop workflow.

So, all that posturing about how much worse Photos is and you came up
with.... nothing?


-- 
M is for MAUDE who was swept out to sea
N is for NEVILLE who died of ennui

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#72906

In article <2015040818595459285-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> > But are Aperture or iPhoto *deleted* from the Mac's hard disk when
> > upgrading? Or can both products be used after upgrading?
> > 
> > If you did the upgrade, could you check this issue for me?
> > 
> > Thanks a lot again.
> 
> I never installed Aperture as I have a Lightroom-Photoshop workflow. 
> However, I had iPhoto, unused, in mothballs, and gathering dust in my 
> Applications folder. It has vanished since my update to OSX 10.10.3, 
> and seems to have gone off to that wasteland for End of Life apps.

I upgraded to 10.10.3. and iPhoto is still there.

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#72908

On 2015-04-09 04:30:50 +0000, Michelle Steiner said:

> In article <2015040818595459285-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
>>> But are Aperture or iPhoto *deleted* from the Mac's hard disk when
>>> upgrading? Or can both products be used after upgrading?
>>> 
>>> If you did the upgrade, could you check this issue for me?
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot again.
>> 
>> I never installed Aperture as I have a Lightroom-Photoshop workflow.
>> However, I had iPhoto, unused, in mothballs, and gathering dust in my
>> Applications folder. It has vanished since my update to OSX 10.10.3,
>> and seems to have gone off to that wasteland for End of Life apps.
> 
> I upgraded to 10.10.3. and iPhoto is still there.

Then I have no idea what happened to the copy I had installed in 
10.10.2. That said, it is no loss as I wasn't using it anyway. It just 
seems strange that it vaporized from this Mac on upgrade.

Furthermore, I can't see that I will be using *Photos* in any 
meaningful way anytime soon. Perhaps just as a conduit for iPhoto 
shots. Even that is just a thought as I have some quite powerful iOS 
editing apps in Photoshop Touch, Photoshot Mix, Lightroom Mobile, and 
Pixelmator, All allow me better editing tools than those in *Photos*. 
If all you are doing is loading camera shots and preping for social 
media then *Photos* will do.
-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#72928

On 2015-04-09 01:59:54 +0000, Savageduck said:

> On 2015-04-09 01:31:54 +0000, Juan I. Cahis said:
> 
>> Dear friends:
>> 
>> I understand that Yosemite today's update replaces Aperture and iPhoto by a
>> new Apple product.
>> 
>> But are Aperture or iPhoto *deleted* from the Mac's hard disk when
>> upgrading? Or can both products be used after upgrading?
>> 
>> If you did the upgrade, could you check this issue for me?
>> 
>> Thanks a lot again.
> 
> I never installed Aperture as I have a Lightroom-Photoshop workflow. 
> However, I had iPhoto, unused, in mothballs, and gathering dust in my 
> Applications folder. It has vanished since my update to OSX 10.10.3, 
> and seems to have gone off to that wasteland for End of Life apps.
> I imagine that since Aperture was payware Apple cannot arbitarily 
> remove it from an owner's hard drive. It can just make it inoperable 
> with future OSX updates.

Different experience here. I upgraded to 10.10.3 this morning. I just 
checked, and iPhoto is still there.

By the way, I've only played with it a bit, but it looks as if Photos 
removed the event titles, given events in iPhoto. Am I missing 
something? 

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#72932

On 2015-04-09 14:58:22 +0000, David Fritzinger said:

> On 2015-04-09 01:59:54 +0000, Savageduck said:
>> On 2015-04-09 01:31:54 +0000, Juan I. Cahis said:
>> 
>>> Dear friends:
>>> 
>>> I understand that Yosemite today's update replaces Aperture and iPhoto by a
>>> new Apple product.
>>> 
>>> But are Aperture or iPhoto *deleted* from the Mac's hard disk when
>>> upgrading? Or can both products be used after upgrading?
>>> 
>>> If you did the upgrade, could you check this issue for me?
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot again.
>> 
>> I never installed Aperture as I have a Lightroom-Photoshop workflow. 
>> However, I had iPhoto, unused, in mothballs, and gathering dust in my 
>> Applications folder. It has vanished since my update to OSX 10.10.3, 
>> and seems to have gone off to that wasteland for End of Life apps.
>> I imagine that since Aperture was payware Apple cannot arbitarily 
>> remove it from an owner's hard drive. It can just make it inoperable 
>> with future OSX updates.
> 
> Different experience here. I upgraded to 10.10.3 this morning. I just 
> checked, and iPhoto is still there.

Not on my Mac after the update.

> By the way, I've only played with it a bit, but it looks as if Photos 
> removed the event titles, given events in iPhoto. Am I missing 
> something?

Nope. Events is like iPhoto & Aperture, history. It is a simplified 
editor/photo manager to make iOS users feel comfortable.
Photos is not a case of less is more. Sometimes minimalism sucks.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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