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falling asleep during downloads

Started byJ Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
First post2015-04-06 17:31 -0400
Last post2015-04-09 12:36 +0000
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  falling asleep during downloads J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 17:31 -0400
    Re: falling asleep during downloads Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-06 18:01 -0400
    Re: falling asleep during downloads dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-07 08:41 +1000
      Re: falling asleep during downloads J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 18:55 -0400
    Re: falling asleep during downloads dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-07 11:30 +1200
      Re: falling asleep during downloads J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 20:15 -0400
        Re: falling asleep during downloads dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-07 12:43 +1200
          Re: falling asleep during downloads J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 23:49 -0400
            Re: falling asleep during downloads dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-07 18:08 +1200
              Re: falling asleep during downloads J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-07 14:11 -0400
                Re: falling asleep during downloads dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-09 02:18 +1200
                  Re: falling asleep during downloads J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-08 16:50 -0400
                    Re: falling asleep during downloads Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-08 19:00 -0700
                      Re: falling asleep during downloads J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-09 11:09 -0400
                  Re: falling asleep during downloads J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-08 17:07 -0400
                    Re: falling asleep during downloads dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-09 11:42 +1200
                      Re: falling asleep during downloads J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-08 21:10 -0400
                      Re: falling asleep during downloads Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 12:40 +0000
    Re: falling asleep during downloads Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2015-04-06 21:35 -0400
      Re: falling asleep during downloads J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-07 00:36 -0400
    Re: falling asleep during downloads Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-07 02:46 +0000
      Re: falling asleep during downloads J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-07 00:43 -0400
        Re: falling asleep during downloads Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-04-07 10:52 -0400
        Re: falling asleep during downloads Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-08 09:57 +0000
          Re: falling asleep during downloads J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-08 16:46 -0400
            Re: falling asleep during downloads Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 12:36 +0000

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#72759

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-04-07 02:46 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmi6hak.28r5.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#72739
In message <mfutts$nib$1@dont-email.me> 
  J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
> I have Yosemite with "Wake for network access" checked. My internet 
> connection speed is 1 GB per hour. Apple downloads may be several GB. If 
> I forget to set my Mini never to sleep, it will interrupt the download 
> by sleeping. There were older versions of OS X that would stay awake.

"Wake for Network Acceess" has nothing to do with this.

But I don't know why your machine is sleeping with an active transfer.

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#72770

FromJ Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
Date2015-04-07 00:43 -0400
Message-ID<mfvn6v$tcg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#72759
On 4/6/15, 10:46 PM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <mfutts$nib$1@dont-email.me>
>    J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> I have Yosemite with "Wake for network access" checked. My internet
>> connection speed is 1 GB per hour. Apple downloads may be several GB. If
>> I forget to set my Mini never to sleep, it will interrupt the download
>> by sleeping. There were older versions of OS X that would stay awake.
>
> "Wake for Network Acceess" has nothing to do with this.

It's curious. If a server is sending me a file, that seems like network 
access.
>
> But I don't know why your machine is sleeping with an active transfer.
>
Maybe it's required by European efficiency standards, like the way my 
Mini goes into deep sleep although it probably saves very little 
electricity. I suppose a computer could be kept awake indefinitely if a 
background window in a browser kept communicating with a server.

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#72789

FromBarry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Date2015-04-07 10:52 -0400
Message-ID<barmar-803900.10520307042015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#72770
In article <mfvn6v$tcg$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> 
wrote:

> On 4/6/15, 10:46 PM, Lewis wrote:
> > In message <mfutts$nib$1@dont-email.me>
> >    J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> I have Yosemite with "Wake for network access" checked. My internet
> >> connection speed is 1 GB per hour. Apple downloads may be several GB. If
> >> I forget to set my Mini never to sleep, it will interrupt the download
> >> by sleeping. There were older versions of OS X that would stay awake.
> >
> > "Wake for Network Acceess" has nothing to do with this.
> 
> It's curious. If a server is sending me a file, that seems like network 
> access.

The name is a bit misleading, it doesn't refer to network activity in 
general. There's a special Wthernet protocol called "Wake-on-LAN" that 
can be used to tell a machine to wake up if it's asleep, and "Wake for 
Network Access" enables detecting it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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#72836

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-04-08 09:57 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmi9uu2.bb4.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#72770
In message <mfvn6v$tcg$1@dont-email.me> 
  J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 4/6/15, 10:46 PM, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <mfutts$nib$1@dont-email.me>
>>    J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> I have Yosemite with "Wake for network access" checked. My internet
>>> connection speed is 1 GB per hour. Apple downloads may be several GB. If
>>> I forget to set my Mini never to sleep, it will interrupt the download
>>> by sleeping. There were older versions of OS X that would stay awake.
>>
>> "Wake for Network Acceess" has nothing to do with this.

> It's curious. If a server is sending me a file, that seems like network 
> access.

But that is not what "Wake for Network Access" means. It means if your
computer is ASLEEP and you try to connect to it, it will wake up.

It used to be called something like "Wake on LAN".

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#72878

FromJ Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
Date2015-04-08 16:46 -0400
Message-ID<mg441j$nk4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#72836
On 4/8/15, 5:57 AM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <mfvn6v$tcg$1@dont-email.me>
>    J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On 4/6/15, 10:46 PM, Lewis wrote:
>>> In message <mfutts$nib$1@dont-email.me>
>>>     J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> I have Yosemite with "Wake for network access" checked. My internet
>>>> connection speed is 1 GB per hour. Apple downloads may be several GB. If
>>>> I forget to set my Mini never to sleep, it will interrupt the download
>>>> by sleeping. There were older versions of OS X that would stay awake.
>>>
>>> "Wake for Network Acceess" has nothing to do with this.
>
>> It's curious. If a server is sending me a file, that seems like network
>> access.
>
> But that is not what "Wake for Network Access" means. It means if your
> computer is ASLEEP and you try to connect to it, it will wake up.
>
> It used to be called something like "Wake on LAN".
>
I looked it up.  It's for Ethernet.  A 102-byte packet that includes the 
computer's MAC address, wakes it.

There's a different wake-up system for WiFi networks.  I don't know 
about that.

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#72917

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-04-09 12:36 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmicsk5.9pt.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#72878
In message <mg441j$nk4$1@dont-email.me> 
  J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 4/8/15, 5:57 AM, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <mfvn6v$tcg$1@dont-email.me>
>>    J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/6/15, 10:46 PM, Lewis wrote:
>>>> In message <mfutts$nib$1@dont-email.me>
>>>>     J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>> I have Yosemite with "Wake for network access" checked. My internet
>>>>> connection speed is 1 GB per hour. Apple downloads may be several GB. If
>>>>> I forget to set my Mini never to sleep, it will interrupt the download
>>>>> by sleeping. There were older versions of OS X that would stay awake.
>>>>
>>>> "Wake for Network Acceess" has nothing to do with this.
>>
>>> It's curious. If a server is sending me a file, that seems like network
>>> access.
>>
>> But that is not what "Wake for Network Access" means. It means if your
>> computer is ASLEEP and you try to connect to it, it will wake up.
>>
>> It used to be called something like "Wake on LAN".
>>
> I looked it up.  It's for Ethernet.  A 102-byte packet that includes the 
> computer's MAC address, wakes it.

And the reason that it is no longer called Wake-On-LAN in OSX is because
it no longer requires Ethernet.

-- 
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one was listening. There were no Words. You owned yourself. ... Not
Thou Shalt Not. Say I Will Not. --Feet of Clay

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