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| Started by | billy@MIX.COM |
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| First post | 2014-06-03 16:01 +0000 |
| Last post | 2014-06-10 20:02 +0000 |
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Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-03 16:01 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 17:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-03 19:12 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-04 18:10 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 15:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 04:25 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 17:31 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 05:37 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-04 19:01 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 07:21 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 17:26 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 06:04 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-05 23:13 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-06 14:26 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-07 02:54 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:26 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-11 09:25 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-05 08:38 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-04 21:33 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 03:50 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 18:40 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 14:13 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 15:32 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 09:01 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 09:31 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 18:40 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:06 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 18:37 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 18:59 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 02:16 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-05 22:56 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 03:20 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-05 23:53 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-06 08:19 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 08:45 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-06-06 15:10 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 05:44 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-05 18:09 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 17:58 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 19:21 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 08:36 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 09:00 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 09:04 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 09:23 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-05 17:47 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:09 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 11:16 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:22 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-05 14:30 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 18:45 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-05 21:57 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 18:43 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 11:06 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-05 23:46 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 23:35 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-06 09:03 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 04:55 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-06 13:07 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-06 08:23 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-06 23:31 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 15:40 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 04:45 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:48 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-06 15:00 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:46 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 08:40 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam@ab-katrinedal.dk (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2014-06-06 18:04 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 09:20 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 16:01 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:30 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:33 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:52 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam@ab-katrinedal.dk (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2014-06-07 10:46 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-07 10:02 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:15 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-06 19:30 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 11:04 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 05:55 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 18:28 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 15:58 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-07 02:54 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 16:47 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 16:49 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 15:38 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2014-06-18 22:40 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 18:25 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 18:27 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 02:13 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 16:47 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-06 19:02 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 20:24 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 01:57 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 18:36 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 02:42 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:50 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 02:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-07 12:47 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 17:49 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:19 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-08 22:44 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:03 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 09:18 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 16:39 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 18:56 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 21:16 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:44 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 18:25 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 22:12 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:46 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-09 09:08 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-09 00:15 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-09 10:42 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 05:36 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-09 04:17 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:19 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 05:35 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:39 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:44 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 12:30 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:32 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-10 11:04 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 17:06 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 00:43 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:00 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-07 06:36 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 23:40 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-07 22:02 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-08 17:38 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-08 18:03 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 08:12 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 14:50 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 09:03 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 15:24 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-09 13:47 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 08:05 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:54 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 00:44 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:05 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 21:33 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:01 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:18 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:44 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:57 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 12:42 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 10:01 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 16:47 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-09 03:25 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-09 20:20 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-08 20:46 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:17 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-11 09:32 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-12 20:24 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-12 18:33 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-16 17:06 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 17:56 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-16 16:31 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-17 19:00 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-18 06:57 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-09 08:48 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 19:58 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:27 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 02:38 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:14 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-07-14 07:25 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-07-14 21:11 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-08-05 08:20 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 19:39 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 19:35 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:40 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 05:11 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 18:17 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-09 20:43 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:01 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 14:53 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 06:58 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 19:20 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 17:18 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 18:52 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 06:30 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 13:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-08 11:20 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 22:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:36 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 15:31 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 16:32 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:02 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 19:17 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-11 02:01 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-11 16:10 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-11 22:35 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-12 01:10 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-12 07:15 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-12 17:41 -0400
Unmasking A Complete, Total Dickwad (was: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 04:17 +0000
Re: Unmasking A Complete, Total Dickwad (was: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-16 14:42 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 04:28 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 09:43 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 14:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:35 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 17:50 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:22 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 22:44 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 12:37 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:58 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:16 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:40 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:54 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 12:40 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:28 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 16:24 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-09 10:10 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-10 08:19 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:55 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-10 18:01 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:08 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-11 16:31 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-12 05:52 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-12 16:45 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-13 13:35 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-13 18:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-13 21:57 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 08:51 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 11:51 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 00:00 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 14:10 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 09:49 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 00:28 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 07:38 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-15 14:51 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 05:34 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 04:23 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-16 17:19 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 23:36 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 07:42 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 18:30 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-14 14:57 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 22:11 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-14 17:40 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 18:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 21:34 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 21:52 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 19:03 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 19:15 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 05:40 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-14 23:18 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-13 21:06 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 17:50 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 19:06 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-14 17:39 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 18:36 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 18:57 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-16 15:08 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-16 16:48 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-16 16:55 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-17 16:03 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-16 17:14 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-17 07:53 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-17 16:10 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-15 12:25 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:11 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:33 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 22:36 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:10 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-12 02:33 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 17:15 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:27 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 17:49 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:21 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 22:25 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 17:33 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-11 21:51 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:16 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:25 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-08 20:31 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 09:50 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-06 07:29 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 15:52 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:21 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-05 17:44 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 09:48 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-05 18:55 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:43 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:14 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:14 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:11 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 19:50 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:02 +0000
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 19:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlp9g3k.2qle.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #60485 |
In message <Ds2dnV-nq5448QnOnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d@giganews.com> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2014.06.07, 17:33 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: >> For your reference, records indicate that >> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> >>> Just not realistic in development demand for a thing that he >>> could market as payware/shareware/donation ware afterwards. >> >> Exactly the opposite. I *am* realistic in thinking that it would be a >> waste of my time to put long hours into polishing up an app on the mere >> *hope* that charging $10 (or $30 like Unison) would have people lining up >> to start using Usenet again. My thinking remains quite clear and >> straightforward: > "To start using usenet again" > Are you real? > 1. Usenet use has not stopped. It has for many people. Probably most the people that have ever used USENET no longer do. > 2. Usenet use has gone down. That is also true. People who continue to use USENET use it less than they did. > 3. Usenet use will not go up because of an app whether it is tailored to > absolute Mac compliance and perfection or not. That is nothing more than your opinion. You may be right. You may not. >> 1. Most Mac users want Mac software > TB is Mac s/w No it's not. > Unison is Mac s/w Unison is shit. > Is it pure as the driven snow Mac s/w? No. > But it doesn't matter. It matters to a lot of people, yes. > - your claim that usenet has left the Mac in your funding call > (Reality: there are several usenet clients) No, there is ONE and there is ThunderBird. Neither is good. -- Gehm's Corollary to Clarke's law: Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-10 16:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <IeqdnS3GBPut9wrOnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #60524 |
On 2014.06.08, 15:58 , Lewis wrote: > In message <Ds2dnV-nq5448QnOnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d@giganews.com> > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2014.06.07, 17:33 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: >>> For your reference, records indicate that >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> Just not realistic in development demand for a thing that he >>>> could market as payware/shareware/donation ware afterwards. >>> >>> Exactly the opposite. I *am* realistic in thinking that it would be a >>> waste of my time to put long hours into polishing up an app on the mere >>> *hope* that charging $10 (or $30 like Unison) would have people lining up >>> to start using Usenet again. My thinking remains quite clear and >>> straightforward: > >> "To start using usenet again" > >> Are you real? > >> 1. Usenet use has not stopped. > > It has for many people. Probably most the people that have ever used > USENET no longer do. Not because of the apps which was what I was challenging (above, his statment: "to start using usenet again"). > >> 2. Usenet use has gone down. > > That is also true. People who continue to use USENET use it less than > they did. > >> 3. Usenet use will not go up because of an app whether it is tailored to >> absolute Mac compliance and perfection or not. > > That is nothing more than your opinion. You may be right. You may not. Let's same I'm quite confident in that opinion. > >>> 1. Most Mac users want Mac software > >> TB is Mac s/w > > No it's not. > >> Unison is Mac s/w Compiled for Mac, runs on Mac. It's Mac s/w. > > Unison is shit. > >> Is it pure as the driven snow Mac s/w? No. >> But it doesn't matter. > > It matters to a lot of people, yes. > >> - your claim that usenet has left the Mac in your funding call >> (Reality: there are several usenet clients) > > No, there is ONE and there is ThunderBird. Neither is good. Bluster. Again. From. The. Purity. Police. <Insert your choice of gaping yawn here> -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-06-11 02:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlpfg91.6hr.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #60718 |
In message <IeqdnS3GBPut9wrOnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@giganews.com> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > Compiled for Mac, runs on Mac. It's Mac s/w. So, xterm is Mac software? ImageMagick? Or, closer to home, slrn. It's compiled for the Mac and runs on the Mac, so according to you it must be Mac software. Hint: It's not, and neither is ThunderBird. You're behaving just like a troll. I wonder why that is? -- 'The trouble with my friend here is that he doesn't know the difference between a postulate and a metaphor of human existence. Or a hole in the ground.' --Pyramids
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-11 18:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <A5mdnWLVM6QtSQXOnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #60754 |
On 2014.06.10, 22:38 , Lewis wrote: > In message <IeqdnS3GBPut9wrOnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@giganews.com> > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> Compiled for Mac, runs on Mac. It's Mac s/w. > > So, xterm is Mac software? ImageMagick? Or, closer to home, slrn. It's > compiled for the Mac and runs on the Mac, so according to you it must be > Mac software. Hint: It's not, and neither is ThunderBird. > > You're behaving just like a troll. I wonder why that is? You're behaving as usual: if nobody agrees with you, you hurl insults. Fact is TB is compiled for the Mac. It's Mac s/w. It may not be in the desirable purity zone that some seek. But I'd rather a non-pretty-and-not-compliant-to-Mac-UI-Thunderbird than no TB at all. Fact is it works very well as a usenet client even if not to the satisfaction of some. Thunderbird: bringing usenet to the Mac for over a decade. If it were running under Quartz (X11) I'd grant that it was a "Unix" program. But it's not. It's a Mac program. (I use inkscape under X11 w/o issues. Well a few). Trolls don't care about things, they just wreak havoc and take whatever tangent suits their purpose. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | android <here@there.was> |
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| Date | 2014-07-14 07:25 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <c2h7upFtt9rU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60810 |
In article <A5mdnWLVM6QtSQXOnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > Thunderbird: bringing usenet to the Mac for over a decade. The TB is a derivate of the Netscape NNTP client, which I used in the nineties... It was available for Windows, Mac and os/2n IIRC. -- teleportation kills http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography
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| From | Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> |
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| Date | 2014-07-14 21:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <slrnls93ff.gce.timmcn@sugaree.local> |
| In reply to | #62200 |
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:25:45 +0200, android <here@there.was> wrote: > In article <A5mdnWLVM6QtSQXOnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com>, > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >> Thunderbird: bringing usenet to the Mac for over a decade. > > The TB is a derivate of the Netscape NNTP client, which I used in the > nineties... It was available for Windows, Mac and os/2n IIRC. Sucked then, too.
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| From | android <here@there.was> |
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| Date | 2014-08-05 08:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <c4bbdqF4ob1U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #62248 |
In article <slrnls93ff.gce.timmcn@sugaree.local>, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:25:45 +0200, android <here@there.was> wrote: > > In article <A5mdnWLVM6QtSQXOnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com>, > > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > > > >> Thunderbird: bringing usenet to the Mac for over a decade. > > > > The TB is a derivate of the Netscape NNTP client, which I used in the > > nineties... It was available for Windows, Mac and os/2n IIRC. > > Sucked then, too. The thing is that I didn't know that so I happily used it anyways. And still do occasionally... In the guise of TB. -- teleportation kills http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 19:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fredp151-3CC6BE.19394008062014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #60485 |
In article <Ds2dnV-nq5448QnOnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2014.06.07, 17:33 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: > > For your reference, records indicate that > > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > > > >> Just not realistic in development demand for a thing that he > >> could market as payware/shareware/donation ware afterwards. > > > > Exactly the opposite. I *am* realistic in thinking that it would be a > > waste of my time to put long hours into polishing up an app on the mere > > *hope* that charging $10 (or $30 like Unison) would have people lining up > > to start using Usenet again. My thinking remains quite clear and > > straightforward: > > "To start using usenet again" > > Are you real? > > 1. Usenet use has not stopped. > 2. Usenet use has gone down. > 3. Usenet use will not go up because of an app whether it is tailored to > absolute Mac compliance and perfection or not. Yeah, Usenet is booming! Verizon Newsgroup Service Has Been Discontinued Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec 15 ATT Announces Discontinuation of USENET Newsgroup Services Time Warner Cable will be discontinuing its newsgroup service Time Warner, Sprint, & Verizon discontinue USENET service AOL discontinuing newsgroup service -- Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. -Twain
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 19:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <080620141935103818%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #60551 |
In article <fredp151-3CC6BE.19394008062014@news.eternal-september.org>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah, Usenet is booming! > > Verizon Newsgroup Service Has Been Discontinued > Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec 15 > ATT Announces Discontinuation of USENET Newsgroup Services > Time Warner Cable will be discontinuing its newsgroup service > Time Warner, Sprint, & Verizon discontinue USENET service > AOL discontinuing newsgroup service Cox discontinued it about four years ago.
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| From | billy@MIX.COM |
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| Date | 2014-06-09 06:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ln3ksh$gdl$4@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #60551 |
FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, Usenet is booming!
>
> Verizon Newsgroup Service Has Been Discontinued
> Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec 15
> ATT Announces Discontinuation of USENET Newsgroup Services
> Time Warner Cable will be discontinuing its newsgroup service
> Time Warner, Sprint, & Verizon discontinue USENET service
> AOL discontinuing newsgroup service
Good riddance - incompetently managed Usenet servers are
worse than nothing at all. Too bad Google hasn't joined
the club.
Billy Y..
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| From | billy@MIX.COM |
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| Date | 2014-06-09 05:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ln3fmj$86h$1@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #60485 |
Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> quotes
Darrin Doc O'Leary:
> > 1. Most Mac users want Mac software
I can only speak for myself, but I want programs that
conform to Apple's UI guidelines. Camino (RIP) is/was
an excellent example.
Billy Y..
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2014-06-09 18:17 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1lmzjtq.100wjs913f7nf8N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #60577 |
<billy@MIX.COM> wrote: > Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> quotes > Darrin Doc O'Leary: > > > > 1. Most Mac users want Mac software > > I can only speak for myself, but I want programs that > conform to Apple's UI guidelines. Camino (RIP) is/was > an excellent example. > > Billy Y.. _Loved_ Camino. It was my main web browser for over five years. I only abandoned Camino when it became clear I could no longer do without the addons most other browsers work with, so I moved to the clunky and un-Mac-like Firefox. In the intervening years Camino's support withered away, and it's now dead :-( -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> |
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| Date | 2014-06-09 20:43 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlpcolg.juq.timmcn@sugaree.local> |
| In reply to | #60577 |
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 05:11:47 +0000 (UTC), billy@MIX.COM <billy@MIX.COM> wrote: > Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> quotes Darrin Doc > O'Leary: > >> > 1. Most Mac users want Mac software > > I can only speak for myself, but I want programs that conform to > Apple's UI guidelines. Camino (RIP) is/was an excellent example. I used Camino for years until the folks who wrote the rendering engine that the Camino project used decided to screw 'em. Switched to Chromium- don't like Safari for some reason and can't stand Firefox. Camino was a great browser...
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-10 17:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <bLCdnUIjmNaz7wrOnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #60577 |
On 2014.06.09, 01:11 , billy@MIX.COM wrote: > Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> quotes > Darrin Doc O'Leary: > >>> 1. Most Mac users want Mac software > > I can only speak for myself, but I want programs that > conform to Apple's UI guidelines. Nice goal. But when s/w is large and mature don't expect a rush of compliance loyalty. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-07 17:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lmvire$u2h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #60378 |
For your reference, records indicate that Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > Mr. Doc wants everyone to fund his new reader because (according to him) > there is nothing for Mac in the Mavericks era. You are being intellectually dishonest. I don’t want “everyone” to fund it; I purposely only want the people who *can* see the value to fund it so that we can get back to having a FREE newsreader available that was designed *for* the Mac. And a fair shot at running on iOS, too. And there is not, nor has there ever been, Usenet as a first-class protocol on the Mac or any other platform. Name me a single other newsreader that has factored out the NNTP bits for reuse. Show me anywhere I can use curl on the command like to fetch a news: or nntp: URL. If it exists, I haven’t seen it. *That* is my intent when I talk about bringing Usenet to the Mac. Unless you want to continue to appear to be a wing-nut, you have to acknowledge this reality. Or keep going on like you are, and filtering becomes a higher priority. :-) > While TB and others are not perfect, they do the job fine for most people. No, Twitter and Facebook and Instagram are what do the job fine for most people. > He should develop it on his own and then market it as donation or > license ware. That's the best way to see if he's "right". I don’t want to be whatever you think it means to be “right” in this case. What I want is for a regular Mac user to be able to fire up a free app to to start chatting away on Usenet and have it work like they would expect it to. I’d drop what I’m doing if anyone else had managed that simple task. -- dn ƃuᴉʞool ǝɹɐ sƃuᴉɥʇ
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| From | dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 14:53 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <do_ray_me-CC8A01.14535408062014@aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #60444 |
In article <lmvire$u2h$1@dont-email.me>, Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote: > What I want is for a regular Mac user to be able to fire up a free app to > to start chatting away on Usenet and have it work like they would expect it > to. I’d drop what I’m doing if anyone else had managed that simple task. The problem, of course, as you might appreciate, is that this is not a simple task. There is no practical set of criteria that will fulfil this aim. What Mac users want is too diverse. Your task then becomes too big. A limited app that does a few things well that many people will like and even more won't might be the way to go. Trust your own judgment of how you would like to operate on usenet and forget everyone else. Work with a rational and simple scheme and be prepared to not have many like it. You might be surprised how good that can come to be seen and how many converts it can bring. What would be the simplest easiest to use newsreader that *you* would want for yourself? Would it be an easier thing to make and cost less? I am just raising some thoughts, not *really* telling you what to do. Good for you to do anything in this business. -- dorayme
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| From | billy@MIX.COM |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 06:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ln11j2$llf$4@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #60456 |
dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> A limited app that does a few things well that many people will like
> and even more won't might be the way to go. Trust your own judgment of
> how you would like to operate on usenet and forget everyone else. Work
> with a rational and simple scheme and be prepared to not have many
> like it. You might be surprised how good that can come to be seen and
> how many converts it can bring.
The best software is written by people who actually use it.
> What would be the simplest easiest to use newsreader that *you* would
> want for yourself? Would it be an easier thing to make and cost less?
Billy Y..
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| From | dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 19:20 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <do_ray_me-C17F8C.19205408062014@aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #60468 |
In article <ln11j2$llf$4@reader2.panix.com>, billy@MIX.COM wrote: > dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > A limited app that does a few things well that many people will like > > and even more won't might be the way to go. Trust your own judgment of > > how you would like to operate on usenet and forget everyone else. Work > > with a rational and simple scheme and be prepared to not have many > > like it. You might be surprised how good that can come to be seen and > > how many converts it can bring. > > The best software is written by people who actually use it. > I don't know if this is true, but if people write software that they intend to use, and go on to use, and if a crowd, however small, gather around to use it in preference to anything else, that is a good start, even a good end. One of the most important things in good software that people will get behind and swear by is ease of use, where information is easily evident. Take the lovely neat window of the groups in MT-NW, just the name in the title bar, the number of groups on the server you are using, your subscribed-to-groups in a simple list with neat little numerals next to them to say how many posts are unread. Command Y will refresh and get more posts if any are there to get. The little numerals then change. You can see it trying to get posts because ? appears in place of the numerals (if there are any), this brief appearance and the ? moving down the groups tells the user what is happening. How many softwares leave users a bit puzzled if anything is actually happening? These simple things are what make for great software. Simple unassuming things. If you want to see any posts, you just click on a group and a window comes up with a list of poster/subject/time, each on a line. This is nice, it is simple. It is staged, you can there and then mark as read (Command A and Cmd Option M) and that is that. Or you can read the first or any post; if so, yet another window pops up with the actual post. Space bar or up/down arrows on the window will get you the next post if you want. It's all *nice looking*. Do not underestimate this! It works easily. If you want to see if more posts have come in, you just Command Y on the Groups window. You can probably set it for auto fetch every x mins but that is not any sort of *essential*, it is the sort of thing that a developer *can* forget about if it is a lot of trouble to code. Why risk complexity and error for non essentials? These extra things are not the biggest factor in what makes software good. It is the basic bones, how nice they look and operate. Indeed, piling on extra goodies is road fraught with danger. I know MT-NW is quite complex and does a lot of things for a lot of people but there are many things it did not have do or try to do and it would *still* have fans like me. > > What would be the simplest easiest to use newsreader that *you* would > > want for yourself? Would it be an easier thing to make and cost less? > -- dorayme
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| From | billy@MIX.COM |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 17:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ln25sp$h2g$1@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #60471 |
dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> If you want to see if more posts have come in, you just Command Y on
> the Groups window.
Tin does this with just plain y. One key, no Command necessary.
Billy Y..
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| From | Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 18:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ln2bdu$lbt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #60456 |
For your reference, records indicate that dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote: > The problem, of course, as you might appreciate, is that this is not a > simple task. There is no practical set of criteria that will fulfil > this aim. What Mac users want is too diverse. Your task then becomes > too big. I’d argue that it is no more difficult to set up than is email, which people seem to get working without that much difficulty. Some things can even be streamlined. Do you already have an NNTP server account with credentials in Keychain? Signal checks there first, so it could be zero configuration. Or I could ship it by default to include a no-account-needed server already set as the default. There are many, many such things that can be done to streamline the user experience from the get-go. > What would be the simplest easiest to use newsreader that *you* would > want for yourself? Would it be an easier thing to make and cost less? I’ve already got that. :-) But I’m an experienced enough developer to know that what works for me probably isn’t going to be good enough for public consumption. Just because I’m happy with how I pull my info from Contacts to create the From: line doesn’t mean that will work for everyone. And any release of software *to* said public is going to result in a support burden that will need to be accounted for. I rail against many open source efforts because the reality of that is so very often ignored. The coding, to me, isn’t the hard part. The bulk of the cost is not the initial implementation (I’d say I’ve put less than $5K of effort into what I have), but the long-term maintenance of software as a living thing. Apps that run on Mavericks today aren’t guaranteed to just keep working with Yosemite. I don’t want Signal to be just another “Here today, gone tomorrow” Mac newsreader, so I’ll just drop it into my internal code base if the costs can’t be covered. -- dn ƃuᴉʞool ǝɹɐ sƃuᴉɥʇ
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