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  Mini and toddlers J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-04-20 23:50 -0400
    Re: Mini and toddlers J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-04-21 00:11 -0400
      Re: Mini and toddlers me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-04-21 19:23 +0000
        Re: Mini and toddlers nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-21 15:35 -0400
        Re: Mini and toddlers J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-04-21 18:37 -0400
    Re: Mini and toddlers nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-21 00:13 -0400
    Re: Mini and toddlers Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-22 04:09 +0000
      Re: Mini and toddlers J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-04-22 01:19 -0400
        Re: Mini and toddlers dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-22 18:41 +1000
        Re: Mini and toddlers Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-22 13:50 +0000
        Re: Mini and toddlers me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-04-28 14:26 +0000

#58745 — Mini and toddlers

I showed a three-year-old relative how to stream a Buster Keaton movie 
on her father's iPad.  She was enthralled.

It seems unwise to let a little kid use an iPad without supervision, and 
the screen is too small for others to watch with her.

How about letting her watch such movies from the HD of a Mini?  She 
wouldn't need to use a browser that way.  From a user account, I suppose 
she couldn't damage the system or other accounts.

At her age, maybe it would be best not to fool with Safari.  Is there a 
way to make some apps unavailable to a certain user?

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#58750

On 4/20/14, 11:50 PM, J Burns wrote:
> I showed a three-year-old relative how to stream a Buster Keaton movie
> on her father's iPad.  She was enthralled.
>
> It seems unwise to let a little kid use an iPad without supervision, and
> the screen is too small for others to watch with her.
>
> How about letting her watch such movies from the HD of a Mini?  She
> wouldn't need to use a browser that way.  From a user account, I suppose
> she couldn't damage the system or other accounts.
>
> At her age, maybe it would be best not to fool with Safari.  Is there a
> way to make some apps unavailable to a certain user?

Found it!  A user account with parental controls!  Neat!

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#58761

J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
> Found it!  A user account with parental controls!  Neat!

Parental controls are hardly needed in this case. Just give the toddler 
his own non-admin account. With that he won't be able to screw up 
anything for anyone else.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#58762

In article <lj3r7m$ro8$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
wrote:

> > Found it!  A user account with parental controls!  Neat!
> 
> Parental controls are hardly needed in this case. Just give the toddler 
> his own non-admin account. With that he won't be able to screw up 
> anything for anyone else.

parental controls are *exactly* what's needed and the reason they're
there.

a toddler with a browser could easily click something and end up seeing
videos containing inappropriate content for kids. it doesn't take much.

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#58765

On 4/21/14, 3:23 PM, Király wrote:
> J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> Found it!  A user account with parental controls!  Neat!
>
> Parental controls are hardly needed in this case. Just give the toddler
> his own non-admin account. With that he won't be able to screw up
> anything for anyone else.
>
I had to learn a lot moving from Classic to OS X.  Parental Control 
offers a Simple Finder option.  Sometimes I have to search for an app 
whose name I don't recall.  Parental Control allows the preselection of 
apps that would be of interest to the kid.  It also allows the selection 
of websites available on Safari, which could make life easier for a 
young surfer even if there were no porn.  It allows the administrator to 
limit a kid's time on the computer.

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#58752

In article <lj24hs$8ss$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
wrote:

> I showed a three-year-old relative how to stream a Buster Keaton movie 
> on her father's iPad.  She was enthralled.
> 
> It seems unwise to let a little kid use an iPad without supervision, and 
> the screen is too small for others to watch with her.
> 
> How about letting her watch such movies from the HD of a Mini?  She 
> wouldn't need to use a browser that way.  From a user account, I suppose 
> she couldn't damage the system or other accounts.
> 
> At her age, maybe it would be best not to fool with Safari.  Is there a 
> way to make some apps unavailable to a certain user?

system preferences>parental controls

ther's also kiosk mode for an ipad to lock it to one app only, which
could be a dedicated movie app (or game or whatever).

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#58771

In message <lj24hs$8ss$1@dont-email.me> 
  J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
> I showed a three-year-old relative how to stream a Buster Keaton movie 
> on her father's iPad.  She was enthralled.

> It seems unwise to let a little kid use an iPad without supervision,

Why? I know one little girl who just turned 4 and she's had an iPad of
her own since she was less than 2.

-- 
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail but a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Dang, that was fun."

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#58773

On 4/22/14, 12:09 AM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <lj24hs$8ss$1@dont-email.me>
>    J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> I showed a three-year-old relative how to stream a Buster Keaton movie
>> on her father's iPad.  She was enthralled.
>
>> It seems unwise to let a little kid use an iPad without supervision,
>
> Why? I know one little girl who just turned 4 and she's had an iPad of
> her own since she was less than 2.
>
I'm barely familiar with iPads.  Getting the movie to stream was only 
the second time I'd touched it.

I believe if a child spilled fluid on an iPad, that would damage it and 
void the warranty.  I imagine the screen could break if it fell.

It's her mother's iPad. I imagine that without supervision, the girl 
could have damaged her mother's files. I don't know if the OS has 
options for protection.

The girl was so intent on the image in front of her nose that she seemed 
oblivious to her father when he read the captions.  I've read that this 
is typical of small children with iPads and that, like addicts, the can 
lose interest in other pastimes.  Some parents and psychologists think 
it may be more harmful than too much TV.

http://www.cultofmac.com/275304/ipad-play-may-damage-infants-ability-use-building-blocks/
This article says nursery teachers have found that kids who have iPads 
have little or no manipulative skills.

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#58782

In article <lj4u4m$1hm$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> 
wrote:

> This article says nursery teachers have found that kids who have iPads 
> have little or no manipulative skills.

Yeah and they grow up to be murderers... 

Don't believe everything you read.

-- 
dorayme

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#58786

In message <lj4u4m$1hm$1@dont-email.me> 
  J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 4/22/14, 12:09 AM, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <lj24hs$8ss$1@dont-email.me>
>>    J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> I showed a three-year-old relative how to stream a Buster Keaton movie
>>> on her father's iPad.  She was enthralled.
>>
>>> It seems unwise to let a little kid use an iPad without supervision,
>>
>> Why? I know one little girl who just turned 4 and she's had an iPad of
>> her own since she was less than 2.
>>
> I'm barely familiar with iPads.  Getting the movie to stream was only 
> the second time I'd touched it.

> I believe if a child spilled fluid on an iPad, that would damage it and 
> void the warranty.  I imagine the screen could break if it fell.

The iPad pretty much has to be submerged for water to get into it. As
for breaking from a fall, possible, if you are using on a tile floor and
drop it off a full-height table. Otherwise, they are quite sturdy.

> It's her mother's iPad. I imagine that without supervision, the girl 
> could have damaged her mother's files. I don't know if the OS has 
> options for protection.

I has Guided Access which for some reason no one uses. I use it all the
time on my full sized iPad where accidentally hitting the 'Home' button
is a frequent occurrence. I don't use it much on the iPad mini, but I am
also not reading ebooks as much on the mini.

> The girl was so intent on the image in front of her nose that she seemed 
> oblivious to her father when he read the captions.  I've read that this 
> is typical of small children with iPads and that, like addicts, the can 
> lose interest in other pastimes.  Some parents and psychologists think 
> it may be more harmful than too much TV.

> http://www.cultofmac.com/275304/ipad-play-may-damage-infants-ability-use-building-blocks/
> This article says nursery teachers have found that kids who have iPads 
> have little or no manipulative skills.

But they have much more advanced fine-motor skills. Comme ci, comme ça.¹

¹ (Interestingly, to me, I always thought that phrase was Spanish (com
si, com sa, until I looked it up.)

-- 
I think it would be fun to run a newspaper.

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#58984

J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
> This article says nursery teachers have found that kids who have iPads 
> have little or no manipulative skills.

There was a study that compared kids' responses to a picture book being 
read to them and an e-version of the same book, with animations and 
"interactive" components, on an iPad. The kids were asked a day or two 
later what they remembered. The iPad kids remembered the flashiness of 
the experience, that characters were jumping up and down, etc. But for 
remembering the actual content of the story, the kids with the picture 
book did much better.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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