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What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode?

Started byGA <GA@a.loss.invalid>
First post2018-11-16 11:05 +0000
Last post2018-11-21 11:53 -0800
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  What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode? GA <GA@a.loss.invalid> - 2018-11-16 11:05 +0000
    Re: What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2018-11-19 16:50 +0000
      Re: What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-11-20 11:39 +0000
        Re: What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-11-20 13:30 +0000
      Re: What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode? Panthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com> - 2018-11-20 12:10 -0500
        Re: What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode? XTiff <XTiff@sea.invalid> - 2018-11-21 10:51 +0000
          Re: What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode? Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2018-11-21 06:11 -0500
            Re: What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode? "David B." <DavidB@nospam.nospam> - 2018-11-21 17:01 +0000
              Re: What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:10 -0500
                Re: What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode? snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-22 01:08 +0000
                  Re: What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode? "I.Mackie" <iMac@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-11-22 09:50 +0000
          Re: What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode? Panthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com> - 2018-11-21 09:54 -0500
            Re: What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode? ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-11-21 16:46 +0000
              Re: What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode? Panthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com> - 2018-11-21 13:21 -0500
                Re: What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode? "David B." <davidontj@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 11:53 -0800

#119569 — What might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode?

FromGA <GA@a.loss.invalid>
Date2018-11-16 11:05 +0000
SubjectWhat might stop my iMac from starting in 'Safe Boot' mode?
Message-ID<nwxHD.88385$nC1.66120@fx09.fr7>
I've asked here https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8618571

		....... but without success.

Any bright ideas from folk reading here?

-- 
GA

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#119589

Fromme@home.spamsucks.ca (Király)
Date2018-11-19 16:50 +0000
Message-ID<psupkk$ud0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119569
GA <GA@a.loss.invalid> wrote:
> I've asked here https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8618571
> 
>                 ....... but without success.
> 
> Any bright ideas from folk reading here?

Try a USB keyboard instead of bluetooth.

-- 
K.

Connection closed by foreign host.

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#119603

From"David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2018-11-20 11:39 +0000
Message-ID<rnSID.18061$RL.11010@fx01.fr7>
In reply to#119589
On 19/11/2018 16:50, Király wrote:
> GA <GA@a.loss.invalid> wrote:
>> I've asked here https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8618571
>>
>>                  ....... but without success.
>>
>> Any bright ideas from folk reading here?
> 
> Try a USB keyboard instead of bluetooth.


GA did try that on the recommendation of someone from the ASC site 
(Apple Support Communities) but sadly it made no difference.

Did you read this?

Nov 9, 2018 12:54 AM in response to GA11

A further Update!

I have had a further long discussion with Apple Support because I am 
still unable to start this machine in Safe Boot mode. No matter what I 
attempted, with their guidance, I was unable to solve the conundrum. I 
was told that Apple engineers have now been advised of the situation and 
that I should hear from Apple support again within 'a few days'.

In the meantime, I contacted a long-standing friend who also has an 
iMac. I determined that he is also now running macOS Mojave so asked him 
if he would attempt to start his machine in Safe Boot mode - albeit that 
I had to explain to him how to do it! 😉 He agreed and I left him to it.

He called me on FaceTime from his iPhone some 10 minutes or so later, 
worried that his computer had still not started. He showed me his iMac 
screen and I could see the Apple logo and the 'progress bar'. As we 
spoke, his machine started as expected and with Safe Boot showing in the 
top right-hand corner of his screen. There was an audible "phew" from my 
friend. He then restarted his machine and it started normally - indeed, 
I heard it 'chime'!

Then it hit me that this iMac does NOT chime; oh no! not another 
fault?!!! 😕😮😢

I investigated and found this:- https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202768
Mac models from early 2016 and earlier make a chime sound when they 
start up. Mac models from late 2016 and newer don't have a startup 
chime, with the exception of MacBook Air (13-inch, 2017)

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8614965



-- 
David B.
(My ABC: Assume Nothing, Believe No one, Challenge Everything).

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#119605

From"David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2018-11-20 13:30 +0000
Message-ID<j0UID.105041$BJ7.85276@fx20.fr7>
In reply to#119603
On 20/11/2018 11:39, David B. wrote:
> On 19/11/2018 16:50, Király wrote:
>> GA <GA@a.loss.invalid> wrote:
>>> I've asked here https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8618571
>>>
>>>                  ....... but without success.
>>>
>>> Any bright ideas from folk reading here?
>>
>> Try a USB keyboard instead of bluetooth.
> 
> 
> GA did try that on the recommendation of someone from the ASC site 
> (Apple Support Communities) but sadly it made no difference.

Hi!

This is where I read that!

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8618834?answerId=34131215022#34131215022

-- 
David B.

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#119613

FromPanthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com>
Date2018-11-20 12:10 -0500
Message-ID<pt1f6e$lis$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119589
On 2018-11-19 11:50, Király wrote:
> GA <GA@a.loss.invalid> wrote:
>> I've asked here https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8618571
>>
>>                  ....... but without success.
>>
>> Any bright ideas from folk reading here?
> 
> Try a USB keyboard instead of bluetooth.
> 
Have a look at the headers on the OP's post.

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#119624

FromXTiff <XTiff@sea.invalid>
Date2018-11-21 10:51 +0000
Message-ID<pt3dc9$qfk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119613
On 20/11/2018 17:10, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
> On 2018-11-19 11:50, Király wrote:
>> GA <GA@a.loss.invalid> wrote:
>>> I've asked here https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8618571
>>>
>>>                  ....... but without success.
>>>
>>> Any bright ideas from folk reading here?
>>
>> Try a USB keyboard instead of bluetooth.
>>
> Have a look at the headers on the OP's post.

How would that help?

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#119625

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2018-11-21 06:11 -0500
Message-ID<0001HW.21A574EF019CE23C7000071AC2EF@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#119624
On 21 Nov 2018, XTiff wrote
(in article <pt3dc9$qfk$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 20/11/2018 17:10, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
> > On 2018-11-19 11:50, Király wrote:
> > > GA <GA@a.loss.invalid>  wrote:
> > > > I've asked here https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8618571
> > > >
> > > > ....... but without success.
> > > >
> > > > Any bright ideas from folk reading here?
> > >
> > > Try a USB keyboard instead of bluetooth.
> > Have a look at the headers on the OP's post.
>
> How would that help?

It would show just how much sockpuppet activity there is on this thread. 
Hint: four posts are from the same person.

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#119628

From"David B." <DavidB@nospam.nospam>
Date2018-11-21 17:01 +0000
Message-ID<pt4324$3c9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119625
On 21/11/2018 11:11, Wolffan wrote:
> On 21 Nov 2018, XTiff wrote
> (in article <pt3dc9$qfk$1@dont-email.me>):
> 
>> On 20/11/2018 17:10, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
>>> On 2018-11-19 11:50, Király wrote:
>>>> GA <GA@a.loss.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>> I've asked here https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8618571
>>>>>
>>>>> ....... but without success.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any bright ideas from folk reading here?
>>>>
>>>> Try a USB keyboard instead of bluetooth.
>>> Have a look at the headers on the OP's post.
>>
>> How would that help?
> 
> It would show just how much sockpuppet activity there is on this thread.
> Hint: four posts are from the same person.

This is important for you to understand:-

https://imgur.com/Mi8BIBV

I asked a sensible question. Only ONE person replied trying to help. 
That says a LOT about you, don't you think?

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#119632

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-21 15:10 -0500
Message-ID<211120181510383568%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#119628
In article <pt4324$3c9$1@dont-email.me>, David B.
<DavidB@nospam.nospam> wrote:

> 
> I asked a sensible question. Only ONE person replied trying to help. 
> That says a LOT about you, don't you think?

it says that everyone except one person realizes that you're a troll.

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#119638

Fromsnipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Date2018-11-22 01:08 +0000
Message-ID<1nyn756.lwc91y1mfiqxyN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
In reply to#119632
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <pt4324$3c9$1@dont-email.me>, David B.
> <DavidB@nospam.nospam> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I asked a sensible question. Only ONE person replied trying to help.
> > That says a LOT about you, don't you think?
> 
> it says that everyone except one person realizes that you're a troll.

A notorious troll at that.   PMFJI 

-- 
^Ï^     My pet rock Gordon just is.

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#119640

From"I.Mackie" <iMac@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2018-11-22 09:50 +0000
Message-ID<iZuJD.165299$qL3.35446@fx29.fr7>
In reply to#119638
On 22/11/2018 01:08, Sn!pe wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> In article <pt4324$3c9$1@dont-email.me>, David B.
>> <DavidB@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I asked a sensible question. Only ONE person replied trying to help.
>>> That says a LOT about you, don't you think?
>>
>> it says that everyone except one person realizes that you're a troll.
> 
> A notorious troll at that.   PMFJI

This song about you?

Scrapper Blackwell - Nobody Knows You When You're Down and Out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=626pNZB8xXE&feature=youtu.be

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#119626

FromPanthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com>
Date2018-11-21 09:54 -0500
Message-ID<pt3rjm$ips$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119624
On 2018-11-21 05:51, XTiff wrote:
> On 20/11/2018 17:10, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
>> On 2018-11-19 11:50, Király wrote:
>>> GA <GA@a.loss.invalid> wrote:
>>>> I've asked here https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8618571
>>>>
>>>>                  ....... but without success.
>>>>
>>>> Any bright ideas from folk reading here?
>>>
>>> Try a USB keyboard instead of bluetooth.
>>>
>> Have a look at the headers on the OP's post.
> 
> How would that help?

Interesting headers you have there.

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#119627

From~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2018-11-21 16:46 +0000
Message-ID<pt424f$1o29$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#119626
On 21/11/2018 14:54, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
> On 2018-11-21 05:51, XTiff wrote:
>> On 20/11/2018 17:10, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
>>> On 2018-11-19 11:50, Király wrote:
>>>> GA <GA@a.loss.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> I've asked here https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8618571
>>>>>
>>>>>                  ....... but without success.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any bright ideas from folk reading here?
>>>>
>>>> Try a USB keyboard instead of bluetooth.
>>>>
>>> Have a look at the headers on the OP's post.
>>
>> How would that help?
> 
> Interesting headers you have there.

Once again, you haven't answered the question.

Headers don't always tell the truth; they can be manipulated.

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#119629

FromPanthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com>
Date2018-11-21 13:21 -0500
Message-ID<pt47nn$281$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119627
On 2018-11-21 11:46, ~BD~ wrote:
> On 21/11/2018 14:54, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
>> On 2018-11-21 05:51, XTiff wrote:
>>> On 20/11/2018 17:10, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
>>>> On 2018-11-19 11:50, Király wrote:
>>>>> GA <GA@a.loss.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> I've asked here https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8618571
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                  ....... but without success.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any bright ideas from folk reading here?
>>>>>
>>>>> Try a USB keyboard instead of bluetooth.
>>>>>
>>>> Have a look at the headers on the OP's post.
>>>
>>> How would that help?
>>
>> Interesting headers you have there.
> 
> Once again, you haven't answered the question.
> 
> Headers don't always tell the truth; they can be manipulated.

Yes, they can. And right now there's a whole lot of manipulation going 
on in this thread. I now count four sockpuppets of the same person.

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#119631

From"David B." <davidontj@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-21 11:53 -0800
Message-ID<0645b2b1-5451-4634-ba83-1c4d74a76eba@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#119629
On Wednesday, 21 November 2018 18:21:45 UTC, Panthera Tigris Altaica  wrote:
> On 2018-11-21 11:46, ~BD~ wrote:
> > On 21/11/2018 14:54, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
> >> On 2018-11-21 05:51, XTiff wrote:
> >>> On 20/11/2018 17:10, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
> >>>> On 2018-11-19 11:50, Király wrote:
> >>>>> GA <GA@a.loss.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>> I've asked here https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8618571
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>                  ....... but without success.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any bright ideas from folk reading here?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Try a USB keyboard instead of bluetooth.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Have a look at the headers on the OP's post.
> >>>
> >>> How would that help?
> >>
> >> Interesting headers you have there.
> > 
> > Once again, you haven't answered the question.
> > 
> > Headers don't always tell the truth; they can be manipulated.
> 
> Yes, they can. And right now there's a whole lot of manipulation going 
> on in this thread. I now count four sockpuppets of the same person.

Are you sure it's only four?

Of those, how many have tried to answer the OP's initial question?

Do tell.

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