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Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera

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First post2020-07-11 03:13 +0000
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  Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 03:13 +0000
    Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2020-07-11 07:26 -0700
      Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Joe Dee <joedid@outlook.com> - 2020-07-11 14:43 +0000
        Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Otto Pylot <otto.pylot@bogusaddress.com> - 2020-07-11 11:28 -0500
          Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 17:07 +0000
          Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2020-07-11 13:21 -0700
            Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2020-07-11 13:34 -0700
              Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Joe Dee <joedid@outlook.com> - 2020-07-11 21:24 +0000
                Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-13 22:21 +0000
                  Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-13 15:23 -0700
              Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-13 22:34 +0000
        Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 17:07 +0000
      Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-11 10:51 -0400
        Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-11 10:52 -0400
          Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 17:07 +0000
        Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 17:07 +0000
      Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-11 17:07 +0000
    Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2020-07-11 19:09 -0500
      Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-07-11 17:21 -0700
      Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-12 01:18 +0000
        Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2020-07-12 12:05 +0000
          Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-12 08:19 -0400
            Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-12 14:16 +0000
              Re: Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2020-07-13 09:18 +0000
                Re: Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-13 21:59 +0000
                  Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2020-07-14 08:40 +0000
                    Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-14 06:25 -0400
                      Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-14 11:22 +0000
                    Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-14 11:26 +0000
                      Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2020-07-14 11:32 +0000
                        Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-14 18:15 +0000
                          Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2020-07-15 07:43 +0000
                            Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-15 17:31 +0000
                              Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2020-07-16 06:42 +0000
                        Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-07-15 06:12 -0400
                          Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-15 17:03 +0000
          Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-12 14:22 +0000
            Re: Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2020-07-13 09:12 +0000
              Re: Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-13 21:48 +0000
                Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2020-07-14 08:43 +0000
                  Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-14 10:11 +0000
                    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2020-07-14 11:30 +0000

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#133392 — Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com>
Date2020-07-11 03:13 +0000
SubjectApple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera
Message-ID<rebapb$s26$1@news.mixmin.net>
Dateline today... (verbatim given apologists deny facts about Apple 
because, apparently, they _hate_ what Apple actually is because they only 
believe in the glossy imaginary world that Apple feeds them to believe).

  "The latest MBP 16 inch with the thin tiny bezels and display comes at a
   cost of breakage with the tiniest of forces..."

o *Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera*
<https://www.macrumors.com/2020/07/10/apple-macbook-camera-cover-warning/>

  "Apple this month published a support document that warns customers 
   against closing their Mac notebooks with a cover over the camera as
   it can lead to display damage."

  "If you close your Mac notebook with a camera cover installed,
   you might damage your display because the clearance between the 
   display and keyboard is designed to very tight tolerances. 

   Covering the built-in camera might also interfere with the ambient 
   light sensor and prevent features like automatic brightness and 
   True Tone from working. 

   As an alternative to a camera cover, use the camera indicator light
   to determine if your camera is active,
   and decide which apps can use your camera in System Preferences."

More in the article.
-- 
o Type I apologists, like nospam, always parrot Apple MARKETING messages
o Type II apologists, like Andreas Rutishauser, simply ignore basic facts
o Type III apologists, like BK, actually _believe_ what Apple feeds them

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#133404

FromJohn McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Date2020-07-11 07:26 -0700
Message-ID<reci70$7va$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#133392
On 7/10/20   PDT 8:13 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> Dateline today... (verbatim given apologists deny facts about Apple
> because, apparently, they _hate_ .....

What I hate is having to kill/block every thread started by this mission 
troll.

So, pal, your reply will not be seen by me, nor many.

> 

comp.sys.mac.advocacy out

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#133405

FromJoe Dee <joedid@outlook.com>
Date2020-07-11 14:43 +0000
Message-ID<recj6e$cn2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#133404
On Jul 11, 2020 at 10:26:38 AM EDT, "John McWilliams" <jpmcw@comcast.net>
wrote:

> On 7/10/20   PDT 8:13 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
>> 
> 
> What I hate is having to kill/block every thread started by this mission 
> troll.
> 
> So, pal, your reply will not be seen by me, nor many.
> 
>> 
> 
> comp.sys.mac.advocacy out

It would've been seen by fewer if you didn't fucking reply to it.
-- 
Remember: It is To Laugh

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#133408

FromOtto Pylot <otto.pylot@bogusaddress.com>
Date2020-07-11 11:28 -0500
Message-ID<NLGdnb3k1v43dZTCnZ2dnUU7-VOdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#133405
On Jul 11, 2020 at 7:43:26 AM PDT, "Joe Dee" <joedid@outlook.com> wrote:

> On Jul 11, 2020 at 10:26:38 AM EDT, "John McWilliams" <jpmcw@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/10/20   PDT 8:13 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> What I hate is having to kill/block every thread started by this mission 
>> troll.
>> 
>> So, pal, your reply will not be seen by me, nor many.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> comp.sys.mac.advocacy out
> 
> It would've been seen by fewer if you didn't fucking reply to it.

I agree. I've had to filter lots of users who I wouldn't normally want to
filter because they keep responding and junking up the newsgroups.
-- 
Deja Moo: I've seen this bullshit before.

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#133411

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com>
Date2020-07-11 17:07 +0000
Message-ID<recrjn$eia$3@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#133408
On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 11:28:26 -0500, Otto Pylot wrote:

> I agree. I've had to filter lots of users who I wouldn't normally want to
> filter because they keep responding and junking up the newsgroups.

It's interestingly how _petrified_ you Apple apologists are, of mere facts.

All you Apple apologists are pretty much exactly like flat earthers.
o *Your belief system is instantly DESTROYED by mere facts about Apple.*

The reason you filter out facts is Apple owns your brains via emotion.
o Your brains only work on emotion - which is why you always hate facts.

You literally _hate_ what Apple is, so much, that you filter out facts
about Apple products, just so that you can maintain your imaginary beliefs
intact.
-- 
It's interestingly how petrified you Apple apologists are, of mere facts.

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#133415

FromJohn McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Date2020-07-11 13:21 -0700
Message-ID<red6vq$9dc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#133408
On 7/11/20   PDT 9:28 AM, Otto Pylot wrote:
> On Jul 11, 2020 at 7:43:26 AM PDT, "Joe Dee" <joedid@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2020 at 10:26:38 AM EDT, "John McWilliams" <jpmcw@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/10/20   PDT 8:13 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> What I hate is having to kill/block every thread started by this mission
>>> troll.
>>>
>>> So, pal, your reply will not be seen by me, nor many.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> comp.sys.mac.advocacy out
>>
>> It would've been seen by fewer if you didn't fucking reply to it.
> 
> I agree. I've had to filter lots of users who I wouldn't normally want to
> filter because they keep responding and junking up the newsgroups.
> 
You may not have noticed I removed one troll group. Grow up.

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#133416

FromJohn McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Date2020-07-11 13:34 -0700
Message-ID<red7om$fbh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#133415
On 7/11/20   PDT 1:21 PM, John McWilliams wrote:
> On 7/11/20   PDT 9:28 AM, Otto Pylot wrote:
>> On Jul 11, 2020 at 7:43:26 AM PDT, "Joe Dee" <joedid@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 11, 2020 at 10:26:38 AM EDT, "John McWilliams" 
>>> <jpmcw@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/10/20   PDT 8:13 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What I hate is having to kill/block every thread started by this 
>>>> mission
>>>> troll.
>>>>
>>>> So, pal, your reply will not be seen by me, nor many.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> comp.sys.mac.advocacy out
>>>
>>> It would've been seen by fewer if you didn't fucking reply to it.
>>
>> I agree. I've had to filter lots of users who I wouldn't normally want to
>> filter because they keep responding and junking up the newsgroups.
>>
> You may not have noticed I removed one troll group. Grow up.

Sorry; the grow up is meant for "Joe Dee".

I usually just kill the entire thread that the pest has started unless 
it's early on and cross posted.


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#133417

FromJoe Dee <joedid@outlook.com>
Date2020-07-11 21:24 +0000
Message-ID<redamb$vih$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#133416
On Jul 11, 2020 at 4:34:29 PM EDT, "John McWilliams" <jpmcw@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Sorry; the grow up is meant for "Joe Dee".
> 
> I usually just kill the entire thread that the pest has started unless 
> it's early on and cross posted.

I'm probably a lot older than you; obviously wiser.
Don't bother to reply.
You're now in good company with Arlen.

-- 
Remember: It is To Laugh

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#133497

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com>
Date2020-07-13 22:21 +0000
Message-ID<reimot$rbe$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#133417
What's consistent is how apologists brazenly deny even what Apple admitted!
o *What is wrong with the Apple Apologists that they deny even what Apple admitted?* 
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/fyL1cQUVCp0>

Here's the news from today, direct from Apple (as always, verbatim so that 
Apologists will simply have to brazenly deny exactly what Apple said)
o *Don't close your MacBook, MacBook Air, or MacBook Pro with a cover over the camera*
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211148>

Notice the apologists in this thread repeatedly brazenly denied every fact 
about Apple they simply don't like! (Which is pretty much everything since 
their entire belief system, being purely imaginary, is threatened by facts)
o *Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera*
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.system/K9dMw2t7Cl8>

That thread contained verbatim quotes from Apple, which, the apologists, 
apparently hate (since they hate that facts show what Apple is), so they 
repeatedly (and viciously) denied that Apple said what Apple said.

What is so very wrong with these strange apologists anyway?
o Why are they so pathetically afraid of something as simple as a fact?

I don't know why.
o However, I suspect it's pretty simple why.

Consider a child of a high-priced prostitute who dearly loves his mom.
o Of course, that child will call all facts about his mom, a "lie by liars"

What else can that child do to maintain his purely imaginary belief system?

In summary, I don't know why apologists call all facts a lie by liars...
o Even facts that clearly are facts that Apple themselves published openly.

I suspect it's as simple as apologists _hate_ what Apple is.
o Facts about Apple instantly DESTROY their imaginary belief systems.
-- 
Bringing truth to the Apple newsgroups, where they need it most.

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#133498

FromAlan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
Date2020-07-13 15:23 -0700
Message-ID<reimtt$1tp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#133497
On 2020-07-13 3:21 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> What's consistent is how apologists brazenly deny even what Apple admitted!
> o *What is wrong with the Apple Apologists that they deny even what Apple admitted?*
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/fyL1cQUVCp0>
> 
> Here's the news from today, direct from Apple (as always, verbatim so that
> Apologists will simply have to brazenly deny exactly what Apple said)
> o *Don't close your MacBook, MacBook Air, or MacBook Pro with a cover over the camera*
> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211148>

The part you leave out:

'Designed to protect your privacy, Mac notebooks have a camera indicator 
light to let you know when the camera is on.'

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#133499

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com>
Date2020-07-13 22:34 +0000
Message-ID<reinht$snf$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#133416
On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 13:34:29 -0700, John McWilliams wrote:

> I usually just kill the entire thread that the pest has started unless 
> it's early on and cross posted.

*Since facts are true, facts don't fit into John McWilliams' belief system.*

Facts instantly DESTROY apologists imaginary Apple belief systems.
o *The real reason Apple is warning users about MacBook camera covers*
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-real-reason-apple-is-warning-users-about-macbook-camera-covers/>

  "But consequently, the number of screen breakages are up.
   And it's a pretty distinctive screen break -- leaving a glowing white
   line down the middle of the display -- so we know why it's happened
   even if people are evasive about how the damage happened."

What's interesting is how petrifyingly AFRAID apologists are of facts.
o John McWilliams says he's so afraid, he plonks the entire thread.

  The bezel is "almost non-existent, and anything that gets in-between 
  the screen and the body can break the display in a heartbeat. 
  They do, they just go 'pop' and the damage is done.

  Only the other day, I saw a display that had been cracked when someone
  has closed a coin on it. Left a nice print of the coin on the display."

Why does John McWilliams _hate_ this facts so much that he's afraid of it?
o I suspect facts scare the shit out of John because facts are true.

*Since facts are true, facts don't fit into John McWilliams' belief system.*

It's like a child covering his ears when told the fact that Santa Claus
simply doesn't exist - Santa is merely something MARKETING fed him.

Every post from apologists like John McWilliams proves this point for us.
o It's like his mom is a prostitute so he _hates_ facts about his mom.

The metaphor is he hates what facts show about what his prostitute mom
really is - and therefore - he hates the mere bearer of those facts.

Like all apologists, _hates_ what Apple is.
o Facts instantly DESTROY his completely imaginary Apple belief system.

*Since facts are true, facts don't fit into John McWilliams' belief system.*
-- 
Facts instantly DESTROY apologists imaginary Apple belief systems.

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#133412

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com>
Date2020-07-11 17:07 +0000
Message-ID<recrjo$eia$4@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#133405
On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 14:43:26 -0000 (UTC), Joe Dee wrote:

> It would've been seen by fewer if you didn't fucking reply to it.

What's interesting is how deathly _afraid_ you are of mere facts.
o Your entire belief system is instantly DESTROYED by mere facts.

Years ago, I wondered why Apple aficionados were so strange.
o What's so scary, to you apologists, about simple mere facts?

Over the years, I've realized any fact about Apple that doesn't fit into
your purely imaginary belief system - you simply wish to filter out.
-- 
It's why say you Apple apologists all appear to own the mind of a child.

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#133406

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-07-11 10:51 -0400
Message-ID<0001HW.24BA0975008339D670000D2BC38F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#133404
On 11 Jul 2020, John McWilliams wrote
(in article <reci70$7va$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 7/10/20 PDT 8:13 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> > Dateline today... (verbatim given apologists deny facts about Apple
> > because, apparently, they _hate_ .....
>
> What I hate is having to kill/block every thread started by this mission
> troll.
>
> So, pal, your reply will not be seen by me, nor many.
>
>
> comp.sys.mac.advocacy out

Poor Arlen the pervert is spewing again? Damn. I didn’t notice.

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#133407

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-07-11 10:52 -0400
Message-ID<110720201052389058%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#133406
In article <0001HW.24BA0975008339D670000D2BC38F@news.supernews.com>,
Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:

> 
> Poor Arlen the pervert is spewing again? Damn. I didn¹t notice.

it never stops.

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#133409

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com>
Date2020-07-11 17:07 +0000
Message-ID<recrjl$eia$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#133407
On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 10:52:38 -0400, nospam wrote:

> it never stops.

Hi nospam,

I know you apologists well, perhaps better than you know yourselves.
o Notice you don't refute the facts - you attack the mere messenger.

You all always prove one thing: *You _hate_ facts about Apple products!*
o Even facts that Apple thyemselves, published openly and honestly.

You hate _all_ facts about Apple products...
o Because, your entire belief system is not based on even a single fact.

Your entire belief system.... is imaginary.
o Facts never fit into your belief system.

All the apologists clearly stated they wish to remain ignorant of the
facts, which is because facts don't fit into any of your belief systems.

*And yet, not a single one of you has addressed the facts Apple published!*
o All you can do is claim facts about Apple will never end.

And they won't.
-- 
It's my job to bring TRUTH to the child-like Apple newsgroups - via facts.

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#133410

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com>
Date2020-07-11 17:07 +0000
Message-ID<recrjm$eia$2@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#133406
On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 10:51:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:

> Poor Arlen the pervert is spewing again? Damn. I didn┤ notice.

Notice you apologists are so _petrified_ of something as simple as a fact.
o Like childish bullies, you attack the mere messenger of those facts.

Why?
o I don't know why.

I think, by attacking the messenger of facts Wolffan hates, he can then, in
his childish mind, keep his purely imaginary belief systems intact.

Wolffan acted like a fifth grade bully told that Santa Claus doesn't exist.
o "Liar liar, pants on fire" is how Wolffan naturally reacts to mere facts.
-- 
What's consistent is how _petrified_ apologists are of mere simple facts.

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#133413

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com>
Date2020-07-11 17:07 +0000
Message-ID<recrjp$eia$5@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#133404
On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 07:26:38 -0700, John McWilliams wrote:

> What I hate is having to kill/block every thread started by

What I _love_ is you apologists prove to _hate_ facts about Apple.
o *Your belief system is instantly DESTROYED by mere facts about Apple.*

That's why you're so pathetically afraid of something as simple as a fact.
o Facts are, literally, the scariest things to you apologists.

You _hate_ facts about Apple products.
o Your entire belief system is completely imaginary (devoid of facts)
-- 
You hate that Apple products, aren't, in fact, what you wish they were.

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#133419

Fromant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date2020-07-11 19:09 -0500
Message-ID<4Z-dnYa2BsQqyZfCnZ2dnUU7-fOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#133392
Weird. No problems with old MBPs like from 2012 and 2008. Must be the newer 
models.


In comp.sys.mac.system Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> wrote:
> Dateline today... (verbatim given apologists deny facts about Apple 
> because, apparently, they _hate_ what Apple actually is because they only 
> believe in the glossy imaginary world that Apple feeds them to believe).

>   "The latest MBP 16 inch with the thin tiny bezels and display comes at a
>    cost of breakage with the tiniest of forces..."

> o *Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera*
> <https://www.macrumors.com/2020/07/10/apple-macbook-camera-cover-warning/>

>   "Apple this month published a support document that warns customers 
>    against closing their Mac notebooks with a cover over the camera as
>    it can lead to display damage."

>   "If you close your Mac notebook with a camera cover installed,
>    you might damage your display because the clearance between the 
>    display and keyboard is designed to very tight tolerances. 

>    Covering the built-in camera might also interfere with the ambient 
>    light sensor and prevent features like automatic brightness and 
>    True Tone from working. 

>    As an alternative to a camera cover, use the camera indicator light
>    to determine if your camera is active,
>    and decide which apps can use your camera in System Preferences."

> More in the article.

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#133420

FromAlan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
Date2020-07-11 17:21 -0700
Message-ID<redl1m$m72$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#133419
On 2020-07-11 5:09 p.m., Ant wrote:
> Weird. No problems with old MBPs like from 2012 and 2008. Must be the newer
> models.

Of course, because it's Arlen, he leaves out important details:

'If your work environment requires a camera cover at all times

If your work environment requires you to cover the camera on your Mac 
notebook, follow these guidelines to avoid damaging the display:

Make sure the camera cover is not thicker than an average piece of 
printer paper (0.1mm).

Avoid using a camera cover that leaves adhesive residue.
If you install a camera cover that is thicker than 0.1mm, remove the 
camera cover before closing your computer.'


<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211148>

Which was mentioned in the article:

'MacBook owners can also control which apps have access to the built-in 
camera as users must grant permission for camera use on any operating 
system after macOS Mojave. For those who do need to cover the camera, 
Apple recommends a camera cover that's not thicker than the average 
piece of printer paper (0.1mm) and that does not leave adhesive residue.'

> In comp.sys.mac.system Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> wrote:
>> Dateline today... (verbatim given apologists deny facts about Apple
>> because, apparently, they _hate_ what Apple actually is because they only
>> believe in the glossy imaginary world that Apple feeds them to believe).
> 
>>    "The latest MBP 16 inch with the thin tiny bezels and display comes at a
>>     cost of breakage with the tiniest of forces..."
> 
>> o *Apple Warns Against Closing MacBooks With a Cover Over the Camera*
>> <https://www.macrumors.com/2020/07/10/apple-macbook-camera-cover-warning/>
> 
>>    "Apple this month published a support document that warns customers
>>     against closing their Mac notebooks with a cover over the camera as
>>     it can lead to display damage."
> 
>>    "If you close your Mac notebook with a camera cover installed,
>>     you might damage your display because the clearance between the
>>     display and keyboard is designed to very tight tolerances.
> 
>>     Covering the built-in camera might also interfere with the ambient
>>     light sensor and prevent features like automatic brightness and
>>     True Tone from working.
> 
>>     As an alternative to a camera cover, use the camera indicator light
>>     to determine if your camera is active,
>>     and decide which apps can use your camera in System Preferences."
> 
>> More in the article.
> 

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#133427

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com>
Date2020-07-12 01:18 +0000
Message-ID<redodb$g1d$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#133419
On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 19:09:27 -0500, Ant wrote:

> Weird. No problems with old MBPs like from 2012 and 2008. Must be the newer 
> models.

Hi Ant,

You're the only one who responded who isn't a known apologist...
o And your response was the only one that covered the topic.

It's shocking, how childishly afraid of facts teh apologists are
o Where all they did was deny the facts & filter out all facts.

It's as if they _hate_ what Apple _is_ every time a fact is stated.
o Or, they claim the facts weren't facts even as they were verbatim.

And, they're so used to being _immune_ to facts about Apple products
o That they will claim I didnt' quote the entire freaking article.

Simply because they're too much like children to even click on the link.
o And when they do, they very often fail to comprehend what it says.

In _this_ situation, Ant, Apple says that if you use a cover, then you can
easily break the screen, as the tolerances are rather tight (and it has
happened, apparently, enough to have caused Apple to issue the warning).

So simply consider this a PSA, so that you know how to not have it happen.
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