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  The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-25 23:56 +0000
    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> - 2018-09-25 19:14 -0700
      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-26 03:19 +0000
        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-26 11:49 +0000
          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> - 2018-09-26 19:48 -0700
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 03:50 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-26 21:13 -0700
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 06:02 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 06:05 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-26 23:46 -0700
                    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 16:18 +0000
                      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-27 09:27 -0700
                        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 19:49 +0000
                          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-27 13:08 -0700
                        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 14:05 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-27 03:58 -0400
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:24 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:13 +0000
          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 14:49 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:28 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-28 15:58 -0700
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
                    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-05 11:07 +0000
    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:43 +0000
        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:23 +0000
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-27 13:48 -0700
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 20:40 +0000
          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:52 +0000
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 08:39 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 09:52 -0400
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 15:53 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:44 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 18:01 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 15:34 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:44 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 17:57 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 12:59 -0500
                    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 18:15 +0000
                      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 13:46 -0500
                        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-28 21:27 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 07:31 +0000
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-07 03:29 +0000

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#118484

Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 08:39:40 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
> 
>> Ok. Let's go there.
> 
> First off, your history,  Chris, is that of a childish troll.
> You're one of the dozen most obvious Apple Apologists of all time.
> 
> Let's see if it's even _possible_ for you to ever act like an adult.
> Shall we?

Ah I see I've become the latest to receive your boilerplate "troll"
treatment. Whatever...

>> You posit that if an app were illegal Google would block it. Therefore as
>> new pipe is available from Google it can't be illegal. That's true.
> 
> That's wrong on so many counts that I have to wonder about your
> comprehension skills, Chris.
> 
> Your comprehension of what I said is so lacking that I must wonder:
> a. Are you really _that_ stupid? or, 
> b. Are you simply playing games (again)?

How can anyone know given you snip everything? 

>> However, you're confusing the legality of an object with the legality of an
>> act using that object or thing. Just because new pipe isn't illegal doesn't
>> mean you can't use for illegal activity. They are logically distinct.
> 
> This is the first adult statement you've made, Chris, where you bring up a
> point which nobody made, but which is valid, where I'll use the example of
> an ice pick to reflect that all the adults here know the platitude:
> a. An ice pick isn't in and of itself illegal, 
> b. And yet, you can use an ice pick to perpetuate an illegal act.

You're just repeating what I said.

>> If A is illegal and B is used to commit A, then B is also illegal *only* if
>> B's only purpose is to enable A.
> 
> Platitudes, Chris. Platitudes.
> a. An ice pick isn't in and of itself illegal, 
> b. And yet, you can use an ice pick to perpetuate an illegal act.

You're repeating yourself as well as what I said. Stunningly, you're making
even less sense than "normal". 

Time to killfile this new nym of yours, methinks. 

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#118486

On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:44:01 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:

> You're repeating yourself as well as what I said. Stunningly, you're making
> even less sense than "normal". 

So as to always strive to add value in every post, please see one of my
thousands of tutorials, where this one is useful for cross-platform
edification:

 Tutorial for how to watch any Youtube video without ever seeing an advertisement
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/AB8gWkSnM1E>

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#118487

On 09/28/2018 12:44 PM, Chris wrote:
> Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 08:39:40 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
>>
>>> Ok. Let's go there.
>>
>> First off, your history,  Chris, is that of a childish troll.
>> You're one of the dozen most obvious Apple Apologists of all time.
>>
>> Let's see if it's even _possible_ for you to ever act like an adult.
>> Shall we?
> 
> Ah I see I've become the latest to receive your boilerplate "troll"
> treatment. Whatever...

You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad 
now.  :-)


> 
>>> You posit that if an app were illegal Google would block it. Therefore as
>>> new pipe is available from Google it can't be illegal. That's true.
>>
>> That's wrong on so many counts that I have to wonder about your
>> comprehension skills, Chris.
>>
>> Your comprehension of what I said is so lacking that I must wonder:
>> a. Are you really _that_ stupid? or,
>> b. Are you simply playing games (again)?
> 
> How can anyone know given you snip everything?
> 
>>> However, you're confusing the legality of an object with the legality of an
>>> act using that object or thing. Just because new pipe isn't illegal doesn't
>>> mean you can't use for illegal activity. They are logically distinct.
>>
>> This is the first adult statement you've made, Chris, where you bring up a
>> point which nobody made, but which is valid, where I'll use the example of
>> an ice pick to reflect that all the adults here know the platitude:
>> a. An ice pick isn't in and of itself illegal,
>> b. And yet, you can use an ice pick to perpetuate an illegal act.
> 
> You're just repeating what I said.
> 
>>> If A is illegal and B is used to commit A, then B is also illegal *only* if
>>> B's only purpose is to enable A.
>>
>> Platitudes, Chris. Platitudes.
>> a. An ice pick isn't in and of itself illegal,
>> b. And yet, you can use an ice pick to perpetuate an illegal act.
> 
> You're repeating yourself as well as what I said. Stunningly, you're making
> even less sense than "normal".
> 
> Time to killfile this new nym of yours, methinks.
> 
> 
> 

Yeah, He does get boring eh.

Rene

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#118489

On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:59:08 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote:

> You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad 
> now.  :-)

*Why must you _prove_ you can't add an iota of value, Rene Lamontagne?*

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#118490

On 09/28/2018 1:15 PM, Arlen H Holder wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:59:08 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
> 
>> You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad
>> now.  :-)
> 
> *Why must you _prove_ you can't add an iota of value, Rene Lamontagne?*
> 

Just to piss you off.

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#118493

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
> On 09/28/2018 1:15 PM, Arlen H Holder wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:59:08 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>> 
>>> You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad
>>> now.  :-)
>> 
>> *Why must you _prove_ you can't add an iota of value, Rene Lamontagne?*
>> 
>
> Just to piss you off.
>
I thought it was funny ... (not sure which group Rene hails from, else
I'd trim things.. Followup set to alt.os.linux).

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#118624

Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> news:pokpcc$fm7$1@dont-email.me Fri, 28
Sep 2018 08:39:40 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
>> 
>>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has
>>> the source code for every app on android.
>> 
>> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code
>> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal,
>> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe
>> does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for
>> some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red
>> subscribers for). 
>> 
>> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at
>> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, 
> 
> Ok. Let's go there.
> 
> You posit that if an app were illegal Google would block it.
> Therefore as new pipe is available from Google it can't be
> illegal. That's true. 
> 
> However, you're confusing the legality of an object with the
> legality of an act using that object or thing. Just because new
> pipe isn't illegal doesn't mean you can't use for illegal
> activity. They are logically distinct. 
> 
> If A is illegal and B is used to commit A, then B is also illegal
> *only* if B's only purpose is to enable A.

Didn't I already cover this when I wrote:

I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's  
perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all 
videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually 
committing copyright infringement when using the application. 
 


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#118635

Diesel <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> news:pokpcc$fm7$1@dont-email.me Fri, 28
> Sep 2018 08:39:40 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 
> 
>> Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has
>>>> the source code for every app on android.
>>> 
>>> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code
>>> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal,
>>> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe
>>> does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for
>>> some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red
>>> subscribers for). 
>>> 
>>> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at
>>> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, 
>> 
>> Ok. Let's go there.
>> 
>> You posit that if an app were illegal Google would block it.
>> Therefore as new pipe is available from Google it can't be
>> illegal. That's true. 
>> 
>> However, you're confusing the legality of an object with the
>> legality of an act using that object or thing. Just because new
>> pipe isn't illegal doesn't mean you can't use for illegal
>> activity. They are logically distinct. 
>> 
>> If A is illegal and B is used to commit A, then B is also illegal
>> *only* if B's only purpose is to enable A.
> 
> Didn't I already cover this when I wrote:
> 
> I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's  
> perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all 
> videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually 
> committing copyright infringement when using the application. 

Indeed you did. He just didn't get it. I think he does now as in every
reply to me he snipped more and more of what I said as he couldn't refute
the fact that new pipe might facilitate copyright theft despite it, in
itself, being completely legal. 

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#118625

Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net>
news:pojfuc$ip7$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:52:30 GMT in
alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
> 
>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has
>> the source code for every app on android.
> 
> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code
> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal,
> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe
> does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for
> some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red
> subscribers for). 

You seem to be more than slightly confused. I wrote:

I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's 
perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all 
videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually 
committing copyright infringement when using the application. 

The tool itself is like a gun, it's a neutral party. It's how you use 
the tool that determines if your actions are legal or not.
 
> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at
> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, which is that
> Google (IMHO) is most certainly extremely well aware of New Pipe
> functionality and source code particulars.

Which has nothing to do with what I wrote. 
 


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#118749

Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> news:pp67a9$1al6$2@gioia.aioe.org Thu,
04 Oct 2018 23:21:48 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On 2018-10-04 3:29 PM, Diesel wrote:
>> Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net>
>> news:pojfuc$ip7$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:52:30 GMT
>> in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has
>>>> the source code for every app on android.
>>>
>>> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code
>>> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal,
>>> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New
>>> Pipe does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which,
>>> for some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube
>>> Red subscribers for).
>> 
>> You seem to be more than slightly confused. I wrote:
>> 
>> I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's
>> perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all
>> videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually
>> committing copyright infringement when using the application.
>> 
>> The tool itself is like a gun, it's a neutral party. It's how you
>> use the tool that determines if your actions are legal or not.
>>   
>>> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at
>>> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, which is
>>> that Google (IMHO) is most certainly extremely well aware of New
>>> Pipe functionality and source code particulars.
>> 
>> Which has nothing to do with what I wrote.
>>   
>> 
>> 
> 
> Have you ever noticed that those who most often use "adult" as an 
> adjective are almost always the least adult people in a
> conversation? 
> 
>:-)

:) Had my normal filters not been disabled, I wouldn't have seen any 
of their posts unless someone else quoted them. I'm really not sure 
why they need the services of a remailer for the "tribal knowledge" 
they wished to bestow among us simpletons. <G>

 



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