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Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_?????

Started by"Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net>
First post2018-09-23 12:33 +0000
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  Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-23 12:33 +0000
    Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? christian180801@ghanart.org (Christian) - 2018-09-23 17:59 +0200
      Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-23 16:25 +0000
        Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? Meanie <Me@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 12:23 -0400
          Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-30 19:51 +0000
            Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? Meanie <Me@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 17:05 -0400
              Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-30 21:38 +0000
                Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-30 17:40 -0700
                  Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-01 02:25 +0000
                    Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-30 19:34 -0700
      Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-23 13:18 -0400
        Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-23 18:28 +0000
          Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-23 18:29 +0000
        Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2018-09-23 11:53 -0700
          Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-23 16:11 -0400
    Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-30 11:38 +0000
      Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-30 07:50 -0700
        Re: Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_????? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-30 15:44 +0000

#118304 — Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_?????

From"Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date2018-09-23 12:33 +0000
SubjectWhy, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_?????
Message-ID<po817d$ghu$1@news.mixmin.net>
Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_?????

Proof: 
I posted a tutorial, where any adult can clearly coomprehend that...
a. No external disk is required
b. No separate machine is required,
In fact, the tutorial expressly explains that it all works on the Mac.

Andreas Rutishauser writes back stating that he thinks the system is
worthless because
a. He whooshed in that he thinks an external disk is required, and, 
b. He whooshed in that he thinks a separate machine is required.

Jesus Christ. I've never met such stupid people.

*Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_?*

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#118315

Fromchristian180801@ghanart.org (Christian)
Date2018-09-23 17:59 +0200
Message-ID<1nvldtc.on0ldcgkqw0iN%christian180801@ghanart.org>
In reply to#118304
Arlen H. Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:

> Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_?????

Because you are such a smart guy, I guess. Nobody better than you. 

And because you are so smart, you should not at all deal with the stupid
masses here. It would just hurt your self-confidence. 

Do yourself a favour and disappear from here, so we can remain stupid
and you can remain smart. 

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#118316

From"Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date2018-09-23 16:25 +0000
Message-ID<po8eqi$48c$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#118315
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 17:59:41 +0200, Christian wrote:

> Because you are such a smart guy, I guess. Nobody better than you. 

I don't think I'm smarter than the average person. Sure, I went to Ivy
League schools and have higher degrees than most of you (who seem to prove
you never even went to college for Christs' sake, which is the most basic
of educational steps); but I've worked in the Silicon Valley for decades,
where _truly smart_ people abound.

No. It's not that I'm smarter than the average person.
It's really that the average poster on this group is shockingly stupid.

The proof is in how they reveal how they think.
The example I gave of Andreas Rutishauser clearly proves _he's_ stupid.

If it was just him, or just Lewis, or just nospam, or just BK@OnRamp, or
just Savageduck, or just any of the other common Apple Apologists, I'd
simply chalk it up to _their_ stupidity, and not to the group as a whole.

But _all_ the posters, to date, _proved_ they can't comprehend even the
_simplest_ of solutions.

In a way, _that_ should be the lesson.
Perhaps it's just that such stupid people _gravitate_ to Apple products?

> And because you are so smart, you should not at all deal with the stupid
> masses here. It would just hurt your self-confidence. 

I understand your feelings are hurt.
You have to care about my feelings also.
a. I present a valid method, and, 
b. Not a single one of you can comprehend it.

How do you think that makes me feel?
Do you see how frustrated it is dealing with such stupid people like you?

> Do yourself a favour and disappear from here, so we can remain stupid
> and you can remain smart.

If I disappeared, you'd be content, I'm sure.
But then you'd have no facts.

You'd be living in your imaginary world devoid of any basis in fact.

My goal here is simply to bring adult facts to this newsgroup.

For example:
More proof the Apple posters simply throw unwarranted FUD at new ideas.

The user "joe" writes, verbatim:
 "The task is done without messing with a DVD drive, Ubuntu, or a terrible
UI."

In that one sentence alone, "joe" proved he got wrong multiple things
a. He can't do 9/10ths of what the proposed system can clearly do
b. Besides, there's no need for DVD (in fact, most Macs don't have a DVD)
c. The UI can be simply the native Mac file explorer (if you hate Nautilus)

Most adults can comprehend the first two so I won't belabor what "joe" 
missed; but the third item takes an adult comprehensive skill set to flesh 
out further.

If "joe" is so afraid of the default "Nautilus" file explorer on Ubuntu, 
there doesn't seem to be much stopping him from reversing the process, and 
staying on the Mac, if that's what he so desperately wants to do.

 How to Mount EXT4 Linux File Systems on a Mac
 <http://osxdaily.com/2014/03/20/mount-ext-linux-file-system-mac/>

 If the fearful "joe" wants a commercial solution, this allays his fear:
 <https://www.paragon-software.com/home/extfs-mac/>

The point is that, for all new ideas, particularly ones that confer ten 
times the power that the user "joe" is used to, all the user "joe" _can_ 
do, is sow unwarranted unsubstantiated FUD.

That's how children act, "joe".
Children are afraid of the imaginary monster in the closet.

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#118538

FromMeanie <Me@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-30 12:23 -0400
Message-ID<poqteh$69n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#118316
On 9/23/2018 12:25 PM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 17:59:41 +0200, Christian wrote:
> 
>> Because you are such a smart guy, I guess. Nobody better than you.
> 
> I don't think I'm smarter than the average person. Sure, I went to Ivy
> League schools and have higher degrees than most of you (who seem to prove
> you never even went to college for Christs' sake, which is the most basic
> of educational steps); but I've worked in the Silicon Valley for decades,
> where _truly smart_ people abound.
> 

ROFLMFAO! Only an inferior jackass needs to express his credentials when 
not being asked about them, to overcome his insecurities. Yet, claiming 
how smart he is but not realizing the people you insult are smarter than 
you by ignoring your idiocy of the constant attention seeking plots. 
ROFLMFAO!

Sucks being you.. try changing your name again and see how stupid these 
people are not to catch on. Oh wait, they did that already. ROFLMFAO!

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#118541

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net>
Date2018-09-30 19:51 +0000
Message-ID<por9fi$d59$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#118538
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 12:23:59 -0400, Meanie wrote:

> but not realizing the people you insult are smarter than you

I realize you're the same troll on the home repair newsgroup
 http://tinyurl.com/alt-home-repair
so I will simply state what I've always stated.

It's not me who proves that Apple Apologists are so dumb.
They prove it themselves - by what they write.

I only speak facts - which they have no defense to.

They're not used to dealing with adults who speak facts.
So when they do, they prove how stupid they are.

Me?
I'm only of average intelligence.
Having been to the best schools in the country, many are smarter.
Having worked in Silicon Valley for decades, many are smarter.

What's shocking isn't that I'm average, but that the Apple Apologists are
so dumb.

They prove how shockingly unfathomably dumb they are by what they write.
I simply point out how they think by pointing out what they write.

You, Meanie, are a well known troll on a.h.r; so we'll leave it at that.

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#118542

FromMeanie <Me@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-30 17:05 -0400
Message-ID<pordvm$ljt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#118541
On 9/30/2018 3:51 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 12:23:59 -0400, Meanie wrote:
> 
>> but not realizing the people you insult are smarter than you
> 
> I realize you're the same troll on the home repair newsgroup
>   http://tinyurl.com/alt-home-repair
> so I will simply state what I've always stated.
> 
> It's not me who proves that Apple Apologists are so dumb.
> They prove it themselves - by what they write.
> 
> I only speak facts - which they have no defense to.
> 
> They're not used to dealing with adults who speak facts.
> So when they do, they prove how stupid they are.
> 
> Me?
> I'm only of average intelligence.
> Having been to the best schools in the country, many are smarter.
> Having worked in Silicon Valley for decades, many are smarter.
> 
> What's shocking isn't that I'm average, but that the Apple Apologists are
> so dumb.
> 
> They prove how shockingly unfathomably dumb they are by what they write.
> I simply point out how they think by pointing out what they write.
> 
> You, Meanie, are a well known troll on a.h.r; so we'll leave it at that.
> 

ROFLMFAO! Yet, you're a well known attention whore troll in m.p.m.i., 
c.m.i., c.s.m.s., a.h.r., a.c. and probably more. Along with your 
insecurity, you're also a hypocrite. We'll leave it at that. ROFLMFAO!

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#118543

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net>
Date2018-09-30 21:38 +0000
Message-ID<porfo6$m1d$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#118542
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:05:33 -0400, Meanie wrote:

> ROFLMFAO! Yet, you're a well known attention whore troll in m.p.m.i., 
> c.m.i., c.s.m.s., a.h.r., a.c. and probably more. Along with your 
> insecurity, you're also a hypocrite. We'll leave it at that. ROFLMFAO!

This isn't my first rodeo with worthless trolls like you, Meanie.
*Your own words above proved you have the mind of a fifth grade child.*

(You've flooded the a.h.r newsgroup with your childish drivel.)
HINT: It's who you are, Meanie. A troll with a fifth grade mentality.

You prove it yourself by what you write.

Meanwhile, I only speak facts.
You _hate_ facts.

Like a fifth-grade child, you have no defense against facts.

-- 
What's funny is that you, & Alan Baker, think this is a battle of wits. 

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#118546

FromAlan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date2018-09-30 17:40 -0700
Message-ID<porqdh$1uhq$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#118543
On 2018-09-30 2:38 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:05:33 -0400, Meanie wrote:
> 
>> ROFLMFAO! Yet, you're a well known attention whore troll in m.p.m.i.,
>> c.m.i., c.s.m.s., a.h.r., a.c. and probably more. Along with your
>> insecurity, you're also a hypocrite. We'll leave it at that. ROFLMFAO!
> 
> This isn't my first rodeo with worthless trolls like you, Meanie.
> *Your own words above proved you have the mind of a fifth grade child.*

Which of those words "proved" that?

Provide your explanation.

> 
> (You've flooded the a.h.r newsgroup with your childish drivel.)
> HINT: It's who you are, Meanie. A troll with a fifth grade mentality.
> 
> You prove it yourself by what you write.
> 
> Meanwhile, I only speak facts.
> You _hate_ facts.

Says the guy who regularly snips facts in favour of ranting.

> 
> Like a fifth-grade child, you have no defense against facts.
> 

LOL!

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#118550

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net>
Date2018-10-01 02:25 +0000
Message-ID<pos0j5$gga$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#118546
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:40:20 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:

> Says the guy who regularly snips facts in favour of ranting.

I use normal established Usenet quoting protocol, which is to quote that
which I respond to.
 <http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?quoting?>

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#118553

FromAlan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date2018-09-30 19:34 -0700
Message-ID<pos145$774$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#118550
On 2018-09-30 7:25 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:40:20 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:
> 
>> Says the guy who regularly snips facts in favour of ranting.
> 
> I use normal established Usenet quoting protocol, which is to quote that
> which I respond to.

Your URL is still broken.

I deliberately snipped it to show how you are violating this rule that I 
found after correcting your broken URL:

'The reply to the post should go BELOW the quoted material, whilst 
snipping out everything you are not commenting on (including signatures).'

You see: I'm commenting on your URL, but I snipped it out.

:-)

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#118321

FromAlan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com>
Date2018-09-23 13:18 -0400
Message-ID<yv-dnY4G6tOfVjrGnZ2dnUU7-XGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#118315
On 2018-09-23 11:59, Christian wrote:
> Arlen H. Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:
> 
>> Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_?????
> 
> Because you are such a smart guy, I guess. Nobody better than you.
> 
> And because you are so smart, you should not at all deal with the stupid
> masses here. It would just hurt your self-confidence.
> 
> Do yourself a favour and disappear from here, so we can remain stupid
> and you can remain smart.

Do us all a favour and don't reply to it.  Those who reply to it give it 
the oxygen it craves.

-- 
"2/3 of Donald Trump's wives were immigrants.  Proof that we
  need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans wouldn't do."
                                           - unknown protester

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#118329

From"Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date2018-09-23 18:28 +0000
Message-ID<po8m09$edq$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#118321
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 13:18:58 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

> Do us all a favour and don't reply to it.  Those who reply to it give it 
> the oxygen it craves.

I don't have to prove that the posters here are of fifth grade mentality.
Alan Brown's own post proved it.

His childish retort, he thinks, is witty & hilarious.
So do all the other similar fifth graders on this newsgroup.

Fact is, almost every post to this newsgroup by the Apple Apologist Alan
Baker, *proves* he has the inbred intellectual acuity of a child.

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#118330

From"Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date2018-09-23 18:29 +0000
Message-ID<po8m1t$efk$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#118329
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 18:28:26 -0000 (UTC), Arlen H. Holder wrote:

> Fact is, almost every post to this newsgroup by the Apple Apologist Alan
> Baker, *proves* he has the inbred intellectual acuity of a child.

typo...Alan Browne ... not Alan Baker...

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#118334

FromJohn McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Date2018-09-23 11:53 -0700
Message-ID<po8nfd$ai1$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#118321
On 9/23/18   PDT 10:18 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2018-09-23 11:59, Christian wrote:
>> Arlen H. Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly 
>>> _stupid_?????
>>
>> Because you are such a smart guy, I guess. Nobody better than you.
>>
>> And because you are so smart, you should not at all deal with the stupid
>> masses here. It would just hurt your self-confidence.
>>
>> Do yourself a favour and disappear from here, so we can remain stupid
>> and you can remain smart.
> 
> Do us all a favour and don't reply to it.  Those who reply to it give it 
> the oxygen it craves.
> 
Uh, Alan, see the irony? Esp. with the cross posting.

-- 
Remember to pillage *before* you burn.

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#118336

FromAlan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com>
Date2018-09-23 16:11 -0400
Message-ID<ANqdnUWa_Zf3bjrGnZ2dnUU7-R3NnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#118334
On 2018-09-23 14:53, John McWilliams wrote:
> On 9/23/18   PDT 10:18 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2018-09-23 11:59, Christian wrote:
>>> Arlen H. Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly 
>>>> _stupid_?????
>>>
>>> Because you are such a smart guy, I guess. Nobody better than you.
>>>
>>> And because you are so smart, you should not at all deal with the stupid
>>> masses here. It would just hurt your self-confidence.
>>>
>>> Do yourself a favour and disappear from here, so we can remain stupid
>>> and you can remain smart.
>>
>> Do us all a favour and don't reply to it.  Those who reply to it give 
>> it the oxygen it craves.
>>
> Uh, Alan, see the irony? Esp. with the cross posting.
> 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bagvd3u95p6h2vr/Untitled%202.png

Officer McWilliams,

1.  I'm not replying to it - but to someone who I hope would stop 
replying to it.
2.  X-posting in this case is a non-issue as it's the usual groups the 
usual cast posts to.
3.


-- 
"2/3 of Donald Trump's wives were immigrants.  Proof that we
  need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans wouldn't do."
                                           - unknown protester

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#118526

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net>
Date2018-09-30 11:38 +0000
Message-ID<poqck3$1lu$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#118304
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 12:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Arlen H. Holder wrote:

> Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_?????

More proof today.
*The world of the Apple Apologist is almost entirely devoid of fact.*

I reported an important _fact_ showing a cited video proving that fact.
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/-sq5XNut5gg>
How did the Apple Apologist Savageduck respond to that fact?
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/-sq5XNut5gg/uR1iDfi1AgAJ>

Notice how these die-hard Apple Apologists have no defense against facts.
When they see a fact, they appear to just want to block facts from sight.

What's the result?
This indicates Apple Apologists choose to live in their imaginary world.

*This world of the Apple Apologist is almost entirely devoid of fact.*

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#118529

FromAlan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date2018-09-30 07:50 -0700
Message-ID<poqnrm$8h6$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#118526
On 2018-09-30 4:38 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 12:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Arlen H. Holder wrote:
> 
>> Why, on earth, are Apple posters to this group, so shockingly _stupid_?????
> 
> More proof today.
> *The world of the Apple Apologist is almost entirely devoid of fact.*
> 
> I reported an important _fact_ showing a cited video proving that fact.
>   <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/-sq5XNut5gg>

No. You drew a conclusion unsupported by that video.

> How did the Apple Apologist Savageduck respond to that fact?
>   <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/-sq5XNut5gg/uR1iDfi1AgAJ>
> 
> Notice how these die-hard Apple Apologists have no defense against facts.
> When they see a fact, they appear to just want to block facts from sight.
> 
> What's the result?
> This indicates Apple Apologists choose to live in their imaginary world.
> 
> *This world of the Apple Apologist is almost entirely devoid of fact.*
> 

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#118537

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net>
Date2018-09-30 15:44 +0000
Message-ID<poqr1f$n2f$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#118529
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 07:50:31 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:

> No. You drew a conclusion unsupported by that video.

Here is a factual response to Alan Baker, which proves how shockingly
stupid these Apple Apologists prove themselves to be:
 Video shows new design flaws in the new iPhone XS Max
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/-sq5XNut5gg/bDpY5mMYAAAJ>

Since no normal adult is _that_ stupid, 
a. Either these Apple Apologists are not like normal adults, or, 
b. They incessantly play silly childish games.
Pick one.

Hint: I don't have to prove it - they prove it themselves.

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