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| Started by | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| First post | 2018-08-27 03:56 +0000 |
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Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-27 03:56 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-27 04:04 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-27 08:09 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-27 11:33 -0400
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-27 16:12 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-27 11:03 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-27 14:19 -0400
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-27 19:24 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-27 13:24 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-27 16:34 -0400
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-27 22:24 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2018-08-27 22:03 +0100
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-27 14:10 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-27 14:27 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-27 17:53 -0400
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-27 22:24 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-30 01:52 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-30 02:02 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 23:06 -0400
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-30 04:41 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-30 00:55 -0400
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-30 12:22 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2018-08-27 22:52 +0100
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-27 15:00 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-27 22:24 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-28 07:18 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-28 23:16 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-28 20:34 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-29 12:56 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-29 13:30 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-29 08:29 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 11:41 -0400
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-29 16:04 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-29 16:16 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-29 16:05 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-29 10:45 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 14:09 -0400
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-08-29 18:52 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-29 22:01 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-29 22:01 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-29 23:02 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-03 04:01 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-30 12:49 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-30 09:36 -0400
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-31 01:53 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-30 22:57 -0400
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-31 12:45 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-27 16:12 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-27 10:52 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-27 13:59 -0400
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-29 22:08 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-29 15:13 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-29 22:58 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-29 19:32 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-30 02:48 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-29 20:02 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-30 04:15 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-29 21:26 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-30 04:43 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-29 21:54 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-30 12:22 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-30 08:44 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) BK@Onramp.net - 2018-08-30 11:03 -0500
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-30 09:09 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) BK@Onramp.net - 2018-08-30 12:47 -0500
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-31 01:59 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-30 19:10 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-31 01:55 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-30 19:08 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-31 02:46 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-30 20:11 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-29 18:18 -0700
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-30 02:29 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 23:06 -0400
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-30 04:15 +0000
Re: Moto X4 on Sale at Newegg for $199.99 ($100 off). Closest Android Phone to an iPhone 8 (non-plus) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-27 19:24 +0000
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 23:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pm78l9$nok$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #117878 |
On 29 Aug 2018 22:01:25 GMT, Arlen Holder wrote: > 11. Choosing a powerful functional free app launcher. (nuff said). > > 12. Storage of large files (e.g., map databases) to sdcard. (nuff said). For a recent example of what is trivial on Android is *impossible* on iOS <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=5724716mapapps.jpg> In addition, I will be moving those map app databases to a new sdcard: <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9757754sdcard01.jpg> *None of this basic power & flexibility is ever available to iOS users.*
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2018-09-03 04:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnpopchc.1e9v.g.kreme@jaka.lan> |
| In reply to | #117859 |
In message <pm3ljl$v76$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > On 8/27/2018 2:52 PM, David Higton wrote: > <snip> >> So it's not dead yet. >> >> I wish it were, and it will be at some point, just not yet. >> >> Dave > Exactly. Still very widely used, and a pain when a device is unable to > display valid web content. You can claim this, but the actual numbers are against you. Use has dropped significantly at is now under 5%, and the vast majority of that is ancient pages that are not being maintained or sites that are actively lying about requiring Flash from Desktop users because it is a simple malware injection path. > “The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.” Flash is dead, deal with it, It's been feature-frozen for awhile and the only updates it gets is critical security patches (and these are still coming fast and furious). -- If I were you boys, I wouldn't talk or even think about women. 'T'ain't good for your health.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-30 12:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pm8p5m$9i2$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #117848 |
On 27 Aug 2018 14:03:25 GMT, David Higton wrote: >>flash is dead. > > Wrong, as is usual for nospam. I agree with David Higton, as would all logical sentient adults, that, while most of us might hate flash, it's still very much there in the real world. Just today, in fact, on a new Windows 10 setup, I apparently encountered it while using Edge for the first time simply reading the news moments ago... <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7612272flash01.jpg> "Something missing on the page? To help you stay safe, we've blocked Adobe Flash. Click here to turn it on." [Got it] Luckily there was a popup query above and the settings below to disable: <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4441186flash02.jpg> "Adobe Flash content was blocked. Do you want to allow Adobe Flash to run on this site?" [Allow once][Always allow] Remember, all I was doing was reading the news from news.google.com, and this particular page was from the Huffington Post, both of which are normal for people to do. My point is that despite nospam's insistence of the world being the way he wishes it would be in his imaginary belief system, Flash is, whether we like it or not, quite persistent in the real world. Nonetheless, this thread never was about Flash so nospam is jumping a jig in delight most likely, since he was singlehandedly able to turn the facts from those of this spreadsheet into a discussion about Flash - which he initiated simply by denying obvious facts (which is a common trick of his). <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HI-ejgQF5-OfJdS7yj-YL_we-v1PiMG0_JM8nGAlN38> The facts with the $130 8-core LG Stylo 3 Plus were that you can buy five (5) far better in almost all cases Android phones for the stupendously high price of one (1) 3-core far less functional in most ways iPhone 7 Plus ... and ... as sms' spreadsheet shows ... You can buy two (2) 8-core far more functional in almost all specs Moto X4 phones for the price of a single 5-core far less functional in almost all specs iPhone 8 ... as summarized below *MotoX4 wins* on Resolution functionality *MotoX4 wins* on Screen Size functionality *MotoX4 wins* on Pixels Per Inch functionality iPhone wins on Geekbench functionality *MotoX4 wins* on Battery functionality (even with the "courageous" jack) *MotoX4 wins* on RAM functionality (with 3 or 4GB being the two options) *MotoX4 wins* on Front Camera Pixels functionality *MotoX4 wins* on Front Flash functionality *MotoX4 wins* on NFC functionality *MotoX4 wins* on SDcard functionality (up to 2TB storage) *MotoX4 wins* on "courageous" headphone jack functionality *MotoX4 wins* on FM radio functionality *MotoX4 wins* on USB OTG functionality *MotoX4 wins* on Waterproofing (even with the "courageous" headphone jack) *MotoX4 wins* on Price (by a whopping 100%) While nospam was successful in derailing this thread, these facts remain. Facts are funny that way.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-30 09:36 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <300820180936282435%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #117907 |
In article <pm8p5m$9i2$1@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote: > Just today, in fact, on a new Windows 10 setup, I apparently encountered it > while using Edge for the first time simply reading the news moments ago... > <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7612272flash01.jpg> > "Something missing on the page? To help you stay safe, we've blocked > Adobe Flash. Click here to turn it on." [Got it] > > Luckily there was a popup query above and the settings below to disable: > <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4441186flash02.jpg> > "Adobe Flash content was blocked. Do you want to allow Adobe Flash > to run on this site?" [Allow once][Always allow] > > Remember, all I was doing was reading the news from news.google.com, > and this particular page was from the Huffington Post, both of which are > normal for people to do. that particular page works perfectly fine *without* flash, as does the entire huffington post site. <https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/prince-harry-sings-hamilton-meghan- markle_us_5b879196e4b0511db3d4bf63> if flash is installed but disabled, it will ask to enable it. however, if flash is *not* installed at all, you *automatically* get the html5 version of the site and without any popups to enable anything. it actually works *better* without flash.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-31 01:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pma73m$l98$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #117908 |
On 30 Aug 2018 06:36:28 GMT, nospam wrote: > that particular page works perfectly fine *without* flash, as does the > entire huffington post site. I never said it didn't work fine - so you're just playing your silly semantic games again, nospam. I said flash *existed* at that web site. No amount of your imaginary claims from inside your imaginary world can wish that fact away. > <https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/prince-harry-sings-hamilton-meghan- > markle_us_5b879196e4b0511db3d4bf63> > > if flash is installed but disabled, it will ask to enable it. > > however, if flash is *not* installed at all, you *automatically* get > the html5 version of the site and without any popups to enable > anything. it actually works *better* without flash. The point is that flash *exists* in the real world. Only in your imaginary world do you deny facts that all *adults* agree on.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-30 22:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <300820182257074888%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #117916 |
In article <pma73m$l98$1@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote: > > > that particular page works perfectly fine *without* flash, as does the > > entire huffington post site. > > I never said it didn't work fine you said flash was needed to view the site. it isn't.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-31 12:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmbd8k$jit$5@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #117922 |
On 30 Aug 2018 19:57:07 GMT, nospam wrote: > you said flash was needed to view the site. > it isn't. As always, you nospam live in an imaginary world of your own concoction. Not only do you fabricate quoted content but you can't comprehend words. I said, verbatim: "while most of us might hate flash, it's still very much there in the real world." "I apparently encountered it .. simply reading the news moments ago... <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7612272flash01.jpg> "Luckily there was a popup query above and the settings below to disable: <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4441186flash02.jpg> "all I was doing was reading the news from news.google.com, and this particular page was from the Huffington Post" Notice I never once said that flash was needed to view the site. As always, everything nospam posts proves that he lives in his own childishly imaginary world outside of the actual realities of real world.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-27 16:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pm17tq$k8h$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #117812 |
On 27 Aug 2018 08:09:18 GMT, sms wrote: > I went back and put in a footnote on the spreadsheet, "*Install Firefox > or Dolphin Browser and Flash Extension from Google Play Store" It works in other browsers too, but it's a minor point so I wouldn't let nospam derail the overall topic, which is that the Moto X4 seems to be about half the price of the far less functional iPhone 8. The last time we did an apples-to-apples detailed comparison, the 64GB $130 8-core LG Stylo 3 Plus was five times less expensive than a far less functional $640 64GB 3-core iPhone 7 Plus. To obtain a more accurate comparison, do you have a price for the 8-core 64GB Moto X4 so we can make a more accurate comparison on price than just "about half" for the 5-core 64GB iPhone 8? Also, does Apple also throttle the iPhone 8 to half the CPU speeds after about a year (I haven't looked at the throttling since I initially broke the news to this newsgroup earlier in the year - where - the world will note that nospam and the other Apple Apologists essentially blamed Android for Apple's secret, drastic, and permanent throttling of the iPhone 7 Plus such that it was even a worse comparison than the one we made in December to the five-times-less-expensive but far-more-functional Android equivalent phone.
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| From | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-27 10:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pm1dpm$1eo$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #117819 |
On 8/27/2018 9:12 AM, Arlen Holder wrote: > On 27 Aug 2018 08:09:18 GMT, sms wrote: > >> I went back and put in a footnote on the spreadsheet, "*Install Firefox >> or Dolphin Browser and Flash Extension from Google Play Store" > > It works in other browsers too, but it's a minor point so I wouldn't let > nospam derail the overall topic, which is that the Moto X4 seems to be > about half the price of the far less functional iPhone 8. There are almost no quad-carrier, smaller screen, mid-range or high-end Android phones available anymore, so the Moto X fills a niche. What's also nice is that they do full Android upgrades, they pushed out Oreo a while back. There are a few smaller GSM/LTE models but they tend to be very low end. Not everyone wants a phablet. My wife could have chosen an iPhone Plus, instead of a non-Plus, from work, but didn't want a larger phone. It will be interesting to see what the next iPhone generation has in terms of screen sizes. They are predicted to introduce a 5.8", 6.1", and 6.5" model, but whether or not their is a smaller one, similar to the current non-plus models, remains to be seen. You may have to go down to an SE to get a smaller screen. They could do a bezel-less 5.2" to 5.3" in the same form factor as the current iPhone non-plus. > The last time we did an apples-to-apples detailed comparison, the 64GB $130 > 8-core LG Stylo 3 Plus was five times less expensive than a far less > functional $640 64GB 3-core iPhone 7 Plus. > > To obtain a more accurate comparison, do you have a price for the 8-core > 64GB Moto X4 so we can make a more accurate comparison on price than just > "about half" for the 5-core 64GB iPhone 8? Counting cores is meaningless, You need to look at actual performance.The Stylo 3 Plus has a dismal Geekbench multicore result of 2578, the iPhone 8 is at 10178. That said, I've never found the Stylo 3 Plus to lag, but I don't play games that would use a lot of CPU power. I also don't have full-encryption turned on, which is a big CPU drain. > Also, does Apple also throttle the iPhone 8 to half the CPU speeds after > about a year Unlikely. If you look at the iPhone 8 design, the power section has been significantly upgraded from the iPhone 7/6s/6, with the addition of third PMIC <http://techinsights.com/about-techinsights/overview/blog/apple-iphone-8-teardown/#06> The root cause of the throttling was not an aged battery, but a new battery did mitigate the issue. When doing power management design you need to account for the reduced capacity of Li-Ion batteries as they age and ensure that your power solution can deliver sufficient current even from an older battery.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-27 13:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <270820181359581519%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #117827 |
In article <pm1dpm$1eo$1@dont-email.me>, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > The root cause of the throttling was not an aged battery, yes it very definitely was.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 22:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pm75hk$hrn$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #117828 |
On 27 Aug 2018 10:59:58 GMT, nospam wrote: >> The root cause of the throttling was not an aged battery, > > yes it very definitely was. Nospam yet again guesses wrong, and even denies what Apple publicly admits. Apple just admitted they were trying to mask defective batteries <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/BqxnrUlOkDA>
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 15:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pm75pa$131v$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #117880 |
On 2018-08-29 3:08 PM, Arlen Holder wrote: > On 27 Aug 2018 10:59:58 GMT, nospam wrote: > >>> The root cause of the throttling was not an aged battery, >> >> yes it very definitely was. > > Nospam yet again guesses wrong, and even denies what Apple publicly admits. > > Apple just admitted they were trying to mask defective batteries > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/BqxnrUlOkDA> > If Apple admitted something... ...why not post a direct link to it?
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 22:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pm78eh$nae$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #117881 |
On 29 Aug 2018 15:13:00 GMT, Alan Baker wrote: > If Apple admitted something... > > ...why not post a direct link to it? Idiot Alan Baker. You Apple Apologists incessantly play the silliest of childish games. You, Alan Baker, *never* click on the links. You make your claims completely *outside of facts*. HINT: The link is within the link which you didn't even click on so you didn't even *read* what the link pointed you to which proved beyond any shadow of a doubt what *intelligent* logical sentient adults made out of Apple's apology - plus - there were plenty of cross references to what the *lawsuits* said (and soon, we hope, what the *judges* say).
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 19:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pm7kvv$1n4s$4@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #117882 |
On 2018-08-29 3:58 PM, Arlen Holder wrote: > On 29 Aug 2018 15:13:00 GMT, Alan Baker wrote: > >> If Apple admitted something... >> >> ...why not post a direct link to it? > > Idiot Alan Baker. That doesn't answer my question. > > You Apple Apologists incessantly play the silliest of childish games. > > You, Alan Baker, *never* click on the links. > You make your claims completely *outside of facts*. > > HINT: The link is within the link which you didn't even click on so you > didn't even *read* what the link pointed you to which proved beyond any > shadow of a doubt what *intelligent* logical sentient adults made out of > Apple's apology - plus - there were plenty of cross references to what the > *lawsuits* said (and soon, we hope, what the *judges* say). > If it was that easy, then post said link.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-30 02:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pm7luj$gfb$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #117890 |
On 29 Aug 2018 19:32:34 GMT, Alan Baker wrote: > If it was that easy, then post said link. You Apple Apologists, Alan Baker, are experts at playing silly games. *You didn't even _click_ on the supplied link for heaven's sake.* *And yet you complain that it doesn't contain what it does contain.* Idiot.
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 20:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pm7mo3$1p29$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #117892 |
On 2018-08-29 7:48 PM, Arlen Holder wrote: > On 29 Aug 2018 19:32:34 GMT, Alan Baker wrote: > >> If it was that easy, then post said link. > > You Apple Apologists, Alan Baker, are experts at playing silly games. > > *You didn't even _click_ on the supplied link for heaven's sake.* > *And yet you complain that it doesn't contain what it does contain.* > > Idiot. > You're the one playing the game "Arlen". You've now expended more effort avoiding posting the link that posting the link would have taken.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-30 04:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pm7r0v$p47$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #117893 |
On 29 Aug 2018 20:02:27 GMT, Alan Baker wrote: > You're the one playing the game "Arlen". > > You've now expended more effort avoiding posting the link that posting > the link would have taken. *You prove you're a child in every post, Alan Baker.* Look at my posts to adults such as those to sms, where I do plenty of research simply because he's not a child. He's an adult. You, Alan Baker, prove in every post you have the mentality of a child. *Hence all you "can" do, Alan Baker, is play your silly childish games.*
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 21:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pm7rle$1vk6$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #117897 |
On 2018-08-29 9:15 PM, Arlen Holder wrote: > On 29 Aug 2018 20:02:27 GMT, Alan Baker wrote: > >> You're the one playing the game "Arlen". >> >> You've now expended more effort avoiding posting the link that posting >> the link would have taken. > > *You prove you're a child in every post, Alan Baker.* > > Look at my posts to adults such as those to sms, where I do plenty of > research simply because he's not a child. > > He's an adult. > > You, Alan Baker, prove in every post you have the mentality of a child. > > *Hence all you "can" do, Alan Baker, is play your silly childish games.* > You've now expended more effort avoiding posting the link that posting the link would have taken.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-30 04:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pm7smd$ru7$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #117900 |
On 29 Aug 2018 21:26:22 GMT, Alan Baker wrote: > You've now expended more effort avoiding posting the link that posting > the link would have taken The link was in the link that you, Alan Baker, didn't click on. So you expended a *lot* of effort simply to avoid clicking on a link. *Every post by you, Alan Baker, simply proves to all that you're a child.*
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 21:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pm7ta7$252$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #117902 |
On 2018-08-29 9:43 PM, Arlen Holder wrote: > On 29 Aug 2018 21:26:22 GMT, Alan Baker wrote: > >> You've now expended more effort avoiding posting the link that posting >> the link would have taken > > The link was in the link that you, Alan Baker, didn't click on. > So you expended a *lot* of effort simply to avoid clicking on a link. > > *Every post by you, Alan Baker, simply proves to all that you're a child.* > You've now expended far more effort avoiding posting the link that posting the link would have taken. It's not my job to hunt from link to link for YOUR support for YOUR claims. You claim there's "proof": Quote it. Provide the source citation.
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