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  Lost linkage to volume control keys briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) - 2018-06-04 18:51 -0400
    Re: Lost linkage to volume control keys nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 18:55 -0400
      Re: Lost linkage to volume control keys briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) - 2018-06-05 00:37 +0000
        Re: Lost linkage to volume control keys nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 20:41 -0400
        Re: Lost linkage to volume control keys Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 13:21 +1200
          Re: Lost linkage to volume control keys briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) - 2018-06-05 01:27 +0000
            Re: Lost linkage to volume control keys Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2018-06-05 12:31 -0400
              Re: Lost linkage to volume control keys nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 12:35 -0400

#117014 — Lost linkage to volume control keys

Running the latest Mac OS on a MacBook Pro. After several ordeals, including
disk replacement and lots of file recoveries, the sound control keys on the
keyboard (louder/softer/off) no longer work.  Other methods work fine, so it
isn't a sound problem, just a S/W linkage issue.

No Apple hints on function keys seem to address those settings. Restore
Defaults, for example hasn't worked.  Suggestions/instructions?

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| Brian Gordon     -->briang@panix.com<--     brian dot gordon at cox dot net |
+ bgordon@aol.com                                      Bass: NSC Frank Thorne +
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#117016

In article <pf4fpc$skc$1@panix2.panix.com>, Brian Gordon
<briang@panix.com> wrote:

> Running the latest Mac OS on a MacBook Pro. After several ordeals, including
> disk replacement and lots of file recoveries, the sound control keys on the
> keyboard (louder/softer/off) no longer work.  Other methods work fine, so it
> isn't a sound problem, just a S/W linkage issue.
> 
> No Apple hints on function keys seem to address those settings. Restore
> Defaults, for example hasn't worked.  Suggestions/instructions?

system preferences, keyboard pref panel, keyboard tab -
 is use f1, f2, etc. keys as standard function keys checked or not?

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#117018

In article <040620181855143735%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
nospam  <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>In article <pf4fpc$skc$1@panix2.panix.com>, Brian Gordon
><briang@panix.com> wrote:
>
>> Running the latest Mac OS on a MacBook Pro. After several ordeals, including
>> disk replacement and lots of file recoveries, the sound control keys on the
>> keyboard (louder/softer/off) no longer work.  Other methods work fine, so it
>> isn't a sound problem, just a S/W linkage issue.
>> 
>> No Apple hints on function keys seem to address those settings. Restore
>> Defaults, for example hasn't worked.  Suggestions/instructions?
>
>system preferences, keyboard pref panel, keyboard tab -
> is use f1, f2, etc. keys as standard function keys checked or not?

Yes it is checked. That was one of my early hopes. Anything else to check/try?

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| Brian Gordon     -->briang@panix.com<--     brian dot gordon at cox dot net |
+ bgordon@aol.com                                      Bass: NSC Frank Thorne +
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#117019

In article <pf4m0j$hmb$1@reader1.panix.com>, Brian Gordon
<briang@panix.com> wrote:

> >
> >> Running the latest Mac OS on a MacBook Pro. After several ordeals,
> >> including
> >> disk replacement and lots of file recoveries, the sound control keys on the
> >> keyboard (louder/softer/off) no longer work.  Other methods work fine, so
> >> it isn't a sound problem, just a S/W linkage issue.
> >> 
> >> No Apple hints on function keys seem to address those settings. Restore
> >> Defaults, for example hasn't worked.  Suggestions/instructions?
> >
> >system preferences, keyboard pref panel, keyboard tab -
> > is use f1, f2, etc. keys as standard function keys checked or not?
> 
> Yes it is checked. That was one of my early hopes. Anything else to check/try?

uncheck it. 

with it checked, they're f1, f2.., not the device specific brightness,
sound, etc.

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#117021

On 2018-06-05 00:37:39 +0000, Brian Gordon said:
> In article <040620181855143735%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> nospam  <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <pf4fpc$skc$1@panix2.panix.com>, Brian Gordon
>> <briang@panix.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Running the latest Mac OS on a MacBook Pro. After several ordeals, including
>>> disk replacement and lots of file recoveries, the sound control keys on the
>>> keyboard (louder/softer/off) no longer work.  Other methods work fine, so it
>>> isn't a sound problem, just a S/W linkage issue.
>>> 
>>> No Apple hints on function keys seem to address those settings. Restore
>>> Defaults, for example hasn't worked.  Suggestions/instructions?
>> 
>> system preferences, keyboard pref panel, keyboard tab -
>> is use f1, f2, etc. keys as standard function keys checked or not?
> 
> Yes it is checked. That was one of my early hopes. Anything else to check/try?

That option isn't in my Keyboard preferences (it's third-party Windoze 
keyboard), but you probably want it NOT checked. The "standard function 
keys" would mean the normal F1, F2, etc. functions rather than the 
system control functions.

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#117022

In article <pf4oiv$1ki4$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Your Name  <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>On 2018-06-05 00:37:39 +0000, Brian Gordon said:
>> In article <040620181855143735%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>> nospam  <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <pf4fpc$skc$1@panix2.panix.com>, Brian Gordon
>>> <briang@panix.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Running the latest Mac OS on a MacBook Pro. After several ordeals, including
>>>> disk replacement and lots of file recoveries, the sound control keys on the
>>>> keyboard (louder/softer/off) no longer work.  Other methods work fine, so it
>>>> isn't a sound problem, just a S/W linkage issue.
>>>> 
>>>> No Apple hints on function keys seem to address those settings. Restore
>>>> Defaults, for example hasn't worked.  Suggestions/instructions?
>>> 
>>> system preferences, keyboard pref panel, keyboard tab -
>>> is use f1, f2, etc. keys as standard function keys checked or not?
>> 
>> Yes it is checked. That was one of my early hopes. Anything else to check/try?
>
>That option isn't in my Keyboard preferences (it's third-party Windoze 
>keyboard), but you probably want it NOT checked. The "standard function 
>keys" would mean the normal F1, F2, etc. functions rather than the 
>system control functions.
>

Unchecking it was the solution.  The verbiage in the Keyboard preferences
seemed to indicate the opposite, but let's not argue with success.  Thanks
to the group for the help.

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| Brian Gordon     -->briang@panix.com<--     brian dot gordon at cox dot net |
+ bgordon@aol.com                                      Bass: NSC Frank Thorne +
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#117075

In article <pf4oug$plj$1@reader1.panix.com>,
 briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) wrote:

> In article <pf4oiv$1ki4$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> Your Name  <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >On 2018-06-05 00:37:39 +0000, Brian Gordon said:
> >> In article <040620181855143735%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> >> nospam  <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >>> In article <pf4fpc$skc$1@panix2.panix.com>, Brian Gordon
> >>> <briang@panix.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Running the latest Mac OS on a MacBook Pro. After several ordeals, 
> >>>> including
> >>>> disk replacement and lots of file recoveries, the sound control keys on 
> >>>> the
> >>>> keyboard (louder/softer/off) no longer work.  Other methods work fine, 
> >>>> so it
> >>>> isn't a sound problem, just a S/W linkage issue.
> >>>> 
> >>>> No Apple hints on function keys seem to address those settings. Restore
> >>>> Defaults, for example hasn't worked.  Suggestions/instructions?
> >>> 
> >>> system preferences, keyboard pref panel, keyboard tab -
> >>> is use f1, f2, etc. keys as standard function keys checked or not?
> >> 
> >> Yes it is checked. That was one of my early hopes. Anything else to 
> >> check/try?
> >
> >That option isn't in my Keyboard preferences (it's third-party Windoze 
> >keyboard), but you probably want it NOT checked. The "standard function 
> >keys" would mean the normal F1, F2, etc. functions rather than the 
> >system control functions.
> >
> 
> Unchecking it was the solution.  The verbiage in the Keyboard preferences
> seemed to indicate the opposite, but let's not argue with success.  Thanks
> to the group for the help.

It says "When this option is selected, press the Fn key to use the 
special features printed on each key". So if you want the F10-F12 to 
control volume you have to press Fn while pressing them. Fn is like a 
shift key that only affects the behavior of the F# keys.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#117076

In article <barmar-3A390B.12311405062018@reader.eternal-september.org>,
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> > Unchecking it was the solution.  The verbiage in the Keyboard preferences
> > seemed to indicate the opposite, but let's not argue with success.  Thanks
> > to the group for the help.
> 
> It says "When this option is selected, press the Fn key to use the 
> special features printed on each key". So if you want the F10-F12 to 
> control volume you have to press Fn while pressing them. Fn is like a 
> shift key that only affects the behavior of the F# keys.

and a few others, such as the arrow keys and delete key.

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