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  American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2015-06-03 23:35 +0200
    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-03 17:46 -0400
      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-03 21:49 -0700
        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-04 09:06 -0400
          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 06:17 -0700
            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-06-04 10:05 -0400
              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 07:23 -0700
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-04 09:54 -0500
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 11:58 -0700
                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 07:48 -0700
                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 08:47 -0700
                        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 12:31 -0400
                          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 10:19 -0700
                            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 13:42 -0400
                              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 10:56 -0700
                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-05 13:18 -0500
                                  Turdv, the communist party leader. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-05 14:36 -0600
                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 14:52 -0400
                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 12:24 -0700
                                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 17:12 -0400
                                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 17:33 -0400
                                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-06 01:25 +0200
                              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 10:58 -0700
                            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-06-05 22:52 -0400
                              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 20:25 -0700
                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-06-06 08:39 +0000
                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-06-06 11:10 +0200
                                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-06-07 15:22 -0400
                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 06:38 -0700
                                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-06-07 16:43 -0400
                          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-06-05 14:09 -0500
                            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted
 communications by extremists" Mel <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-06-05 22:17 +0300
                            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-06-06 06:59 +0200
                        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 13:18 -0700
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Fred Newman" <frednewman@guessmyemail.com> - 2015-06-05 03:01 +0200
            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 10:07 -0700
            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-04 20:19 -0400
              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-06-05 02:22 +0200
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-04 23:09 -0400
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Riley <rileyhumbert.us@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 05:25 +0100
                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> - 2015-06-05 08:48 +0200
                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 07:04 -0700
                        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 07:50 -0700
                          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 08:48 -0700
                            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-05 18:00 +0100
                            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 11:34 -0700
                            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 13:19 -0700
                        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-05 14:35 -0600
                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 11:18 -0400
                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-05 09:10 -0700
                        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-05 14:33 -0600
                          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 13:35 -0700
                          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-05 17:35 -0700
                            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-05 20:52 -0600
                              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-06 10:31 -0400
                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-06 12:06 -0600
                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-06 12:55 -0700
                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 13:59 -0700
                                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-06 14:08 -0700
                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-06-07 22:12 +0200
                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Info <info@dunasesmeralda.com> - 2015-06-07 05:55 +0200
                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-06-07 19:15 +0000
                              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-06 07:50 -0700
                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> - 2015-06-06 18:07 +0200
                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-06 09:51 -0700
                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-06-06 13:39 -0400
                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-06-07 20:37 +0000
                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-06 12:04 -0600
                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-07 21:50 +0200
                            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-06 02:11 -0400
                              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-06 10:47 -0400
                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 08:02 -0700
                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-06 11:10 -0400
                                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 13:47 -0700
                                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-06-07 00:22 +0000
                                        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-07 15:51 -0600
                                          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2015-06-08 06:07 +0200
                                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> - 2015-06-07 22:24 +0200
                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-06 12:02 -0600
                                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 13:48 -0700
                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-06 11:10 -0700
                                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-06 15:57 -0600
                                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-06 15:25 -0700
                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-06-06 18:19 +0000
                                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 13:56 -0700
                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-07 01:02 +0200
                                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 16:18 -0700
                                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-06-06 21:43 -0400
                                        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 19:21 -0700
                                          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-06 19:33 -0700
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 21:27 -0700
                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 07:52 -0700
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 06:51 -0400
                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-06-05 21:30 +0200
              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 18:33 -0700
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-04 22:49 -0400
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 20:13 -0700
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Westgate <westgateserv@zoho.com> - 2015-06-05 05:24 +0100
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 06:52 -0400
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 10:40 -0400
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 07:54 -0700
              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Info <info@dunasesmeralda.com> - 2015-06-05 11:32 +0200
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Ryan Johnson" <everyone@mediamatters.org> - 2015-06-05 22:12 +0200
          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 08:52 -0700
        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 10:05 -0700
          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 10:18 -0700
            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 12:01 -0700
              Would a "carbon tax" would benefit the poor ?! Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-04 13:54 -0700
                Re: Would a "carbon tax" would benefit the poor ?! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-04 17:30 -0400
                  Re: Would a "carbon tax" would benefit the poor ?! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 19:08 -0700
              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 13:57 -0700
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-04 17:34 -0400
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 17:40 -0700
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 18:24 -0700
                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-04 22:26 -0400
                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 20:09 -0700
                        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-05 02:39 -0400
                          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 07:01 -0700
                        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 10:42 -0400
                          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 08:44 -0700
                            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 08:48 -0700
                              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 09:21 -0700
                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-06-05 13:30 -0400
                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 10:49 -0700
                                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-06-05 13:53 -0400
                                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 10:58 -0700
                                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-05 13:06 -0500
                                      But Turdv IS a LIAR and documented.  The guy with his imaginary BSEE.  LOL!!! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-05 14:28 -0600
                                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 11:23 -0700
                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 13:21 -0700
                              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 12:33 -0400
                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-05 17:58 +0100
                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 13:32 -0400
                                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-05 22:00 +0100
                                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 17:24 -0400
                                        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-06-06 00:24 +0200
                                          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-06-05 18:42 -0400
                                            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 23:37 -0400
                                              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 20:44 -0700
                                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-06-06 10:07 +0200
                                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-06 12:01 -0600
                                              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-06 11:57 -0600
                                                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-06 17:21 -0400
                                                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-06 23:30 +0100
                                          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-06-06 03:51 +0000
                                      fear peddlers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-06-05 19:50 -0400
                                        Re: fear peddlers Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-06-06 03:13 +0200
                            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 11:36 -0700
                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-05 06:33 +0200
                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 21:57 -0700
                        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-06-05 18:24 +0000
                          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 11:33 -0700
                            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-06-06 06:10 +0200
                              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 22:43 -0700
                          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 17:08 -0400
                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 11:07 -0400
                        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-06-05 11:20 -0400
                          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 12:27 -0400
                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-05 14:08 -0600
                        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-06 05:32 +0200
              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 17:20 -0700
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 17:34 -0700
              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-06-05 07:44 +0000
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 07:05 -0700
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-06-06 01:13 +0000
                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 18:21 -0700
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-05 20:01 +0200
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 11:33 -0700
                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-06-06 06:21 +0200
                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 22:40 -0700
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 12:20 -0700
                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-06-05 19:52 -0400
                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-06-06 06:13 +0200
                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-06 06:26 +0200
              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 21:35 -0700
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-06 10:44 -0400
            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 17:19 -0700
              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 17:36 -0700
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-06-04 18:48 -0700
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 19:01 -0700
      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 10:13 -0700
        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-04 13:42 -0400
          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 11:08 -0700
            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-04 14:03 -0600
              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 13:54 -0700
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 17:26 -0700
              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-04 17:19 -0400
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 06:59 -0400
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 07:06 -0700
          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 17:22 -0700
            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-04 21:08 -0400
              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-05 05:59 +0200
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 07:00 -0400
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 12:12 -0400
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 10:48 -0400
              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 22:45 -0700
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 11:17 -0400
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-05 09:08 -0700
                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 12:41 -0400
                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-05 17:34 -0700
                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-05 17:37 -0700
                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-06-05 18:14 -0700
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> - 2015-06-05 21:20 +0200
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-05 23:41 -0400
              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-05 13:57 -0600
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-05 22:06 +0100
                  Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-06-05 14:44 -0700
                    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-05 22:48 +0100
                      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-06-05 15:07 -0700
                        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-06-05 15:43 -0700
                Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2015-06-06 06:27 +0200
      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-06-09 09:35 -0700
    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-04 08:18 +0200
      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-04 21:19 -0400
        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-06-05 10:35 -0400
    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous Remailer <remailer@domain.invalid> - 2015-06-04 12:10 +0200
      Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-05 02:39 +0200
        Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-06-07 12:17 +0000
          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-07 09:50 -0400
            Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-06-07 10:05 -0400
              Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-07 11:26 -0400
          Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-06-07 10:17 -0400
    Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-06-06 03:11 +0200
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#76305

On 2015-06-05 16:08:42 +0000, gtr said:

> On 2015-06-05 15:17:50 +0000, Slimer said:
> 
>> On 2015-06-05 1:45 AM, gtr wrote:
>>> On 2015-06-05 01:08:24 +0000, Slimer said:
>>> 
>>>> On 2015-06-04 8:22 PM, gtr wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-06-04 17:42:21 +0000, Slimer said:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sex and someone's gender has absolutely no impact whatsoever on the
>>>>>> quality of life people can expect.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Says a white heterosexual middle-class mail.
>>>> 
>>>> How do you know I'm white? And what does my skin olour have to do with
>>>> Bruce Jenner's decision to chop off his own balls?
>>> 
>>> "Sex and gender has no impact" tells that you are a male.  Since you're
>>> blind to the fact that sex and gender can be an incredible limitation on
>>> life's opportunities it tells me you're white, as well as middle-class
>>> and hetero.
>> 
>> Women might be treated differently in your neck of the woods, but in 
>> Canada they tend to be on equal terms with men.
> 
> Clearly you know less about Canadian women, than you do about liberals.

Dammit!  I had no idea this crap was being cross posted to the wingnut brigade.

Man oh man do I need my Unison killfile to work badly!

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#76309

On Jun 5, 2015, gtr wrote
(in article<2015060517372523275-xxx@yyyzzz>):

> On 2015-06-05 16:08:42 +0000, gtr said:
> > On 2015-06-05 15:17:50 +0000, Slimer said:
> > > On 2015-06-05 1:45 AM, gtr wrote:

<<Snip>>

> > > Women might be treated differently in your neck of the woods, but in
> > > Canada they tend to be on equal terms with men.
> > 
> > Clearly you know less about Canadian women, than you do about liberals.
> 
> Dammit! I had no idea this crap was being cross posted to the wingnut 
brigade.

Where do you think it started?

…but the problem is easily fixed, first negate the X-Post. For this 
response there is no X-Post.

> Man oh man do I need my Unison killfile to work badly!

I think you need it to work well.
That said it should be simple enough to create a new filter and add the 
suspects you would prefer no to see in your browser. The action to be 
performed will be simple, “Kill”.

I use both Hogwasher and Unison and this thread provoked me into culling the 
crap I am presented with by using simple filters in both readers.
Here is what this thread led to in Unison:
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_176.jpg>


--

Regards,
Savageduck

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#76271

In article <2015060422454868211-xxx@yyyzzz>
gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>

> And after pondering this during the afternoon I absolutely believe that
> Jenner's change of gender is a *vastly* more significant cultural
> bullet point, that is it will effect American lives on a daily basis
> vastly  than obscure laws cobbled together to make international
> business more money.

If you're into carnival geek stuff and tormenting the mentally 
ill.  That's what this is all about.  There is no significant 
cultural event here.  This individual admitted that he has been 
tormented his entire life by wanting to be a woman.  The liberal 
media and homosexualists picked up on it and decided to exploit 
this sick man for their purposes.  That is wrong.  That shows no 
conscience or moral foundation.

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#76320

In article <c816551b1fc8ac771cc67fcc8a40eefb@anemone.mooo.com>
Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> wrote:
>
> In article <2015060422454868211-xxx@yyyzzz>
> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> >
>
> > And after pondering this during the afternoon I absolutely believe that
> > Jenner's change of gender is a *vastly* more significant cultural
> > bullet point, that is it will effect American lives on a daily basis
> > vastly  than obscure laws cobbled together to make international
> > business more money.
>
> If you're into carnival geek stuff and tormenting the mentally
> ill.  That's what this is all about.  There is no significant
> cultural event here.  This individual admitted that he has been
> tormented his entire life by wanting to be a woman.  The liberal
> media and homosexualists picked up on it and decided to exploit
> this sick man for their purposes.  That is wrong.  That shows no
> conscience or moral foundation.

News is news.  News, unlike truth, has no moral basis for 
appearance or existence.

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#76275

Slimer wrote:

> On 2015-06-04 8:22 PM, gtr wrote:
>> On 2015-06-04 17:42:21 +0000, Slimer said:
>>
>>> Sex and someone's gender has absolutely no impact whatsoever on the
>>> quality of life people can expect.
>>
>> Says a white heterosexual middle-class mail.
> 
> How do you know I'm white? And what does my skin olour have to do with
> Bruce Jenner's decision to chop off his own balls?
> 
>>> That 700-page document does.
>>
>> It serves the wealthy to get more wealthy and the poor to get poorer.
> 
> Knowing that, why should we ignore the document?
> 
>>>>> The fall of the American Empire is coming and honestly, I doubt that
>>>>> Americans themselves will even notice.
>>>>
>>>> I think it will fall as a result of spending every free nickel on
>>>> munitions instead of the populace while lying endlessly about ever
>>>> facet
>>>> of its operation.  Not a few transgender folk appearing on magazine
>>>> covers.
>>>
>>> The point is that people are being distracted from the real issues.
>>
>> And always have been.
> 
> Actually, news agencies used to report this kind of thing and people
> used to care. We've since become apathetic marshmallows and the news
> agencies don't report anything at all.
> 
>>> Whenever something very important like the TPP or the Freedom Act are
>>> about to pass, today's media always finds a way to bring an
>>> unimportant topic to the front of the newspaper pages. In this case,
>>> Caitlyn Jenner and the FIFA scandal.
>>
>> Naughty naughty media!  They make us care about things we can understand
>> instead of educating us for 10 columns of text we can neither understand
>> nor have the patience to read.
> 
> People in the United States don't give a flying fuck about FIFA or
> soccer in general.
> 
The thing that gets me is why is it the FBIs business?
FWI, they don't have any authority.

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#76289

In article <rqGdnYYR_bmsYuzInZ2dnUU7-LOdnZ2d@bresnan.com>, GreyCloud
<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:

>The thing that gets me is why is it the FBIs business?
>FWI, they don't have any authority.

Yankees seem to always want to extend matters beyond their proper
jurisdiction.

-- 
"People don't buy Microsoft for quality, they buy it for compatibility
with what Bob in accounting bought last year. Trace it back - they buy
Microsoft because the IBM Selectric didn't suck much" - P Seebach, afc

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#76294

On Jun 5, 2015, Tim Streater wrote
(in article<050620152206476026%timstreater@greenbee.net>):

> In article<rqGdnYYR_bmsYuzInZ2dnUU7-LOdnZ2d@bresnan.com>, GreyCloud
> <mist@cumulus.com>wrote:
> 
> > The thing that gets me is why is it the FBIs business?
> > FWI, they don't have any authority.
> 
> Yankees seem to always want to extend matters beyond their proper
> jurisdiction.

The FBI is involved because the primary whistle blower Chuck Blazer is a US 
citizen and an ex-FIFA executive committee member. Since this particular 
crime of bribery crossed both State lines and international borders, and 
involved a US citizen, and US organizations the FBI is fully within its 
proper jurisdiction.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

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#76295

In article <0001HW.1B224FCD01BAE01F10D3463CF@news.giganews.com>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

>On Jun 5, 2015, Tim Streater wrote
>(in article<050620152206476026%timstreater@greenbee.net>):
>
>> In article<rqGdnYYR_bmsYuzInZ2dnUU7-LOdnZ2d@bresnan.com>, GreyCloud
>> <mist@cumulus.com>wrote:
>> 
>> > The thing that gets me is why is it the FBIs business?
>> > FWI, they don't have any authority.
>> 
>> Yankees seem to always want to extend matters beyond their proper
>> jurisdiction.
>
>The FBI is involved because the primary whistle blower Chuck Blazer is a US 
>citizen and an ex-FIFA executive committee member. Since this particular 
>crime of bribery crossed both State lines and international borders, and 
>involved a US citizen, and US organizations the FBI is fully within its 
>proper jurisdiction.

That he is a US citizen is neither here nor there. *Only* if money
changed hands in the US should they be able to claim jurisdiction. What
takes place outside their borders is not their business.

-- 
"Once you adopt the unix paradigm, the variants cease to be a problem - you
bitch, of course, but that's because bitching is fun, unlike M$ OS's, where 
bitching is required to keep your head from exploding." - S Stremler in afc

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#76296

On Jun 5, 2015, Tim Streater wrote
(in article<050620152248265939%timstreater@greenbee.net>):

> In article<0001HW.1B224FCD01BAE01F10D3463CF@news.giganews.com>,
> Savageduck<savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>wrote:
> 
> > On Jun 5, 2015, Tim Streater wrote
> > (in article<050620152206476026%timstreater@greenbee.net>):
> > 
> > > In article<rqGdnYYR_bmsYuzInZ2dnUU7-LOdnZ2d@bresnan.com>, GreyCloud
> > > <mist@cumulus.com>wrote:
> > > 
> > > > The thing that gets me is why is it the FBIs business?
> > > > FWI, they don't have any authority.
> > > 
> > > Yankees seem to always want to extend matters beyond their proper
> > > jurisdiction.
> > 
> > The FBI is involved because the primary whistle blower Chuck Blazer is a US
> > citizen and an ex-FIFA executive committee member. Since this particular
> > crime of bribery crossed both State lines and international borders, and
> > involved a US citizen, and US organizations the FBI is fully within its
> > proper jurisdiction.
> 
> That he is a US citizen is neither here nor there. *Only* if money
> changed hands in the US should they be able to claim jurisdiction. What
> takes place outside their borders is not their business.

You might have noticed the Swiss authorities are not particularly upset about 
having the FBI push its nose into their tent.
There haven’t been too many complaints from Trinidad&Tobago, Cayman 
Islands, Costa Rica, Brazil, Uruguay, Paraguay, Venezuela (if any body would 
complain it would be them),&Nicaragua either.

Once the depth of the South African bribes comes out there are bound to be 
more indictments, including a few initiated by the Swiss.


--

Regards,
Savageduck

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#76299

On Jun 5, 2015, Savageduck wrote
(in article<0001HW.1B22550701BC19A210D3463CF@news.giganews.com>):

> On Jun 5, 2015, Tim Streater wrote
> (in article<050620152248265939%timstreater@greenbee.net>):
> 
> > In article<0001HW.1B224FCD01BAE01F10D3463CF@news.giganews.com>,
> > Savageduck<savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>wrote:
> > 
> > > On Jun 5, 2015, Tim Streater wrote
> > > (in article<050620152206476026%timstreater@greenbee.net>):
> > > 
> > > > In article<rqGdnYYR_bmsYuzInZ2dnUU7-LOdnZ2d@bresnan.com>, GreyCloud
> > > > <mist@cumulus.com>wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > The thing that gets me is why is it the FBIs business?
> > > > > FWI, they don't have any authority.
> > > > 
> > > > Yankees seem to always want to extend matters beyond their proper
> > > > jurisdiction.
> > > 
> > > The FBI is involved because the primary whistle blower Chuck Blazer is a 
US
> > > citizen and an ex-FIFA executive committee member. Since this particular
> > > crime of bribery crossed both State lines and international borders, and
> > > involved a US citizen, and US organizations the FBI is fully within its
> > > proper jurisdiction.
> > 
> > That he is a US citizen is neither here nor there. *Only* if money
> > changed hands in the US should they be able to claim jurisdiction. What
> > takes place outside their borders is not their business.
> 
> You might have noticed the Swiss authorities are not particularly upset about
> having the FBI push its nose into their tent.
> There haven’t been too many complaints from Trinidad&Tobago, Cayman
> Islands, Costa Rica, Brazil, Uruguay, Paraguay, Venezuela (if any body would
> complain it would be them),&Nicaragua either.
> 
> Once the depth of the South African bribes comes out there are bound to be
> more indictments, including a few initiated by the Swiss.

Since you are obviously living in the UK, or someplace East of the US 
Atlantic coast, this BBC take on the FBI involvement might prove informative.
<http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32889845>

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Regards,
Savageduck

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#76328

In article <rqGdnYYR_bmsYuzInZ2dnUU7-LOdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>
> Slimer wrote:
>
> > On 2015-06-04 8:22 PM, gtr wrote:
> >> On 2015-06-04 17:42:21 +0000, Slimer said:
> >>
> >>> Sex and someone's gender has absolutely no impact whatsoever on the
> >>> quality of life people can expect.
> >>
> >> Says a white heterosexual middle-class mail.
> >
> > How do you know I'm white? And what does my skin olour have to do with
> > Bruce Jenner's decision to chop off his own balls?
> >
> >>> That 700-page document does.
> >>
> >> It serves the wealthy to get more wealthy and the poor to get poorer.
> >
> > Knowing that, why should we ignore the document?
> >
> >>>>> The fall of the American Empire is coming and honestly, I doubt that
> >>>>> Americans themselves will even notice.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it will fall as a result of spending every free nickel on
> >>>> munitions instead of the populace while lying endlessly about ever
> >>>> facet
> >>>> of its operation.  Not a few transgender folk appearing on magazine
> >>>> covers.
> >>>
> >>> The point is that people are being distracted from the real issues.
> >>
> >> And always have been.
> >
> > Actually, news agencies used to report this kind of thing and people
> > used to care. We've since become apathetic marshmallows and the news
> > agencies don't report anything at all.
> >
> >>> Whenever something very important like the TPP or the Freedom Act are
> >>> about to pass, today's media always finds a way to bring an
> >>> unimportant topic to the front of the newspaper pages. In this case,
> >>> Caitlyn Jenner and the FIFA scandal.
> >>
> >> Naughty naughty media!  They make us care about things we can understand
> >> instead of educating us for 10 columns of text we can neither understand
> >> nor have the patience to read.
> >
> > People in the United States don't give a flying fuck about FIFA or
> > soccer in general.
> >
> The thing that gets me is why is it the FBIs business?
> FWI, they don't have any authority.

The USA didn't have the authority to invade Pakistan and "kill" 
some poor dope to represent as Osama Bin Laden either.

Odd how Obama managed to do that when Osama's dead was widely 
reported a decade earlier.

Guess it's just another Obama era lie to establish a "legacy" 
for the fake black potus.

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#76426

On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 17:46:48 -0400
Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote:

> I agree with you that liberalism, in general, is destroying your
> country and mine as a consequence. You know there's a big problem

idealism might be exchanged for liberalism
neocon, liberal either way does not matter
the trajectory is the same

> when American society is more concerned with Bruce Jenner turning
> into a woman than the Trans-Pacific Partnership or the Freedom Act.

or worried about net neutrality
the TPP will make net neutrality seem like a joke

(net neutrality is also a misdirection as it died years and years ago)

> The fall of the American Empire is coming and honestly, I doubt that
> Americans themselves will even notice.

it will be noticed but it will be too late


regarding the original article
it is all misdirection and serves at least two purposes
1) more beating of "islam is big and bad" drums
2) to make people think that they are unable to read encrypted comms

1 is old and tired and transparent
2 seems to work and people soak it up

if you own the physical layer then you own the data
what do you think "the cloud" is all about


you connect securely to the cloud but going through the cloud that
connection is unencrypted then the connection from cloud to
server is encrypted

we should all believe in trusting the cloud







 

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#76095

In article <8cf406ebded79d41387435aaa9ed7e93@hoi-polloi.org>
Anonymous <anon...@hoi-polloi.org> wrote:
>
> We are all extremists now because the American government says
> so.
>
> Published June 03, 2015 Associated Press
>
> U.S. law enforcement officials expressed concern Wednesday about
> the growing use of encrypted communication and private messaging
> by supporters of the Islamic State, saying the technology was
> complicating efforts to monitor terror suspects and extremists.
>
> The officials, appearing before the House Homeland Security
> Committee, said that even as thousands of Islamic State
> supporters around the world communicate in public view on
> Twitter, some are exploiting social media platforms that allow
> them to shield their messages from law enforcement.
>
> "There are 200-plus social media companies. Some of these
> companies build their business model around end-to-end
> encryption," said Michael Steinbach, head of the FBI's
> counterterrorism division. "There is no ability currently for us
> to see that" communication, he said.
>
> Asked later in the hearing if he thought the technology
> companies were being unhelpful, Steinbach replied, "The
> companies have built a product that doesn't allow them to help."
>
> He said he was concerned that evolving technologies were
> outpacing laws that allow law enforcement to intercept
> communications by suspects.
>
> John Mulligan, the deputy director of the National
> Counterterrorism Center, testified that one of the two men
> involved in an attempted terror attack in Garland, Texas, last
> month urged fellow Islamic State supporters before the shooting
> to move their communications to private Twitter messages. Those
> men, Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi, were shot by police outside
> a provocative Prophet Mohammed cartoon contest. No one else was
> killed.
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/03/us-officials-warn-
> encrypted-communications-by-extremists/?intcmp=trending

The good officials forgot to mention, criminality, terrorism, and secret 
communications existed and prospered long before the www, Twitter, and 
Jenner's tranny garbage.

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#76164

In article <8e590365335305a103f9630221779a1c@dizum.com>
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>
> In article <8cf406ebded79d41387435aaa9ed7e93@hoi-polloi.org>
> Anonymous <anon...@hoi-polloi.org> wrote:
> >
> > We are all extremists now because the American government says
> > so.
> >
> > Published June 03, 2015 Associated Press
> >
> > U.S. law enforcement officials expressed concern Wednesday about
> > the growing use of encrypted communication and private messaging
> > by supporters of the Islamic State, saying the technology was
> > complicating efforts to monitor terror suspects and extremists.
> >
> > The officials, appearing before the House Homeland Security
> > Committee, said that even as thousands of Islamic State
> > supporters around the world communicate in public view on
> > Twitter, some are exploiting social media platforms that allow
> > them to shield their messages from law enforcement.
> >
> > "There are 200-plus social media companies. Some of these
> > companies build their business model around end-to-end
> > encryption," said Michael Steinbach, head of the FBI's
> > counterterrorism division. "There is no ability currently for us
> > to see that" communication, he said.
> >
> > Asked later in the hearing if he thought the technology
> > companies were being unhelpful, Steinbach replied, "The
> > companies have built a product that doesn't allow them to help."
> >
> > He said he was concerned that evolving technologies were
> > outpacing laws that allow law enforcement to intercept
> > communications by suspects.
> >
> > John Mulligan, the deputy director of the National
> > Counterterrorism Center, testified that one of the two men
> > involved in an attempted terror attack in Garland, Texas, last
> > month urged fellow Islamic State supporters before the shooting
> > to move their communications to private Twitter messages. Those
> > men, Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi, were shot by police outside
> > a provocative Prophet Mohammed cartoon contest. No one else was
> > killed.
> >
> > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/03/us-officials-warn-
> > encrypted-communications-by-extremists/?intcmp=trending
>
> The good officials forgot to mention, criminality, terrorism, and secret
> communications existed and prospered long before the www, Twitter, and
> Jenner's tranny garbage.

Democracy breeds terrorism.

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#76219

>Democracy breeds terrorism.

What breeds terrorism is social imbalance leading to a lack of prospects for
the non-privileged people.  And that's what's represented by conservatives.

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#76099

On 03.06.15 23:35, Anonymous wrote:
> We are all extremists now because the American government says 
> so.
> 
> Published June 03, 2015 Associated Press
> 
[snip]
> 
> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/03/us-officials-warn-
> encrypted-communications-by-extremists/?intcmp=trending
> 
An giant Facebook just allowed, a couple of days ago, users
to add their public PGP key to their profile/info page. :-)

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#76160

In article <20150604.121011.996cb42a@anemone.mooo.com>
Anonymous Remailer <remailer@domain.invalid> wrote:
>
> On 03.06.15 23:35, Anonymous wrote:
> > We are all extremists now because the American government says
> > so.
> >
> > Published June 03, 2015 Associated Press
> >
> [snip]
> >
> > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/03/us-officials-warn-
> > encrypted-communications-by-extremists/?intcmp=trending
> >
> An giant Facebook just allowed, a couple of days ago, users
> to add their public PGP key to their profile/info page. :-)

And of course you can trust facebook.

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#76383

In article <5eca792a703b064694684d7653f77020@dizum.com>
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>
> In article <20150604.121011.996cb42a@anemone.mooo.com>
> Anonymous Remailer <remailer@domain.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > On 03.06.15 23:35, Anonymous wrote:
> > > We are all extremists now because the American government says
> > > so.
> > >
> > > Published June 03, 2015 Associated Press
> > >
> > [snip]
> > >
> > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/03/us-officials-warn-
> > > encrypted-communications-by-extremists/?intcmp=trending
> > >
> > An giant Facebook just allowed, a couple of days ago, users
> > to add their public PGP key to their profile/info page. :-)
>
> And of course you can trust facebook.

I'm not the person to whom you are replying, but I have to ask: why 
would you really be trusting Facebook in this case?

Your public key is public, if you want it to be. How do we need to 
trust Facebook any more than the key servers or E-mail or a Web 
page where we might publicly display our public key?

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#76384

On 2015-06-07 8:17 AM, Anonymous wrote:
> In article <5eca792a703b064694684d7653f77020@dizum.com>
> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>>
>> In article <20150604.121011.996cb42a@anemone.mooo.com>
>> Anonymous Remailer <remailer@domain.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 03.06.15 23:35, Anonymous wrote:
>>>> We are all extremists now because the American government says
>>>> so.
>>>>
>>>> Published June 03, 2015 Associated Press
>>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/03/us-officials-warn-
>>>> encrypted-communications-by-extremists/?intcmp=trending
>>>>
>>> An giant Facebook just allowed, a couple of days ago, users
>>> to add their public PGP key to their profile/info page. :-)
>>
>> And of course you can trust facebook.
>
> I'm not the person to whom you are replying, but I have to ask: why
> would you really be trusting Facebook in this case?

If you put your PGP key on Facebook, you're essentially giving that web 
site your private key as well as the password associated with it. Sure, 
you'll be able to encrypt communications between yourself and a fellow 
PGP-protected user on Facebook, but both of you will have not only given 
a key which should have remained in your sole possession to a public 
platform but also provided that service with the password required to 
decrypt all of your communications. Basically, you've gone and done the 
stupidest thing imaginable.

> Your public key is public, if you want it to be. How do we need to
> trust Facebook any more than the key servers or E-mail or a Web
> page where we might publicly display our public key?

Except that you're not just providing the public key to Facebook. I 
don't see how the encryption would work if the service didn't have 
access to your private key.

-- 
Slimer
Encrypt.

"Figuring that linux has only 1.5% of any market share as a desktop os, 
it also implies that the end user is stupid enough to fiddle with an old 
WWII bomb that didn't go off." - GreyCloud

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#76385

"Slimer" <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote in message news:ml1i57$4tt$1@dont-email.me...
> On 2015-06-07 8:17 AM, Anonymous wrote:
>
>> Your public key is public, if you want it to be. How do we need to
>> trust Facebook any more than the key servers or E-mail or a Web
>> page where we might publicly display our public key?
>
> Except that you're not just providing the public key to Facebook. I don't 
> see how the encryption would work if the service didn't have access to 
> your private key.
>

It would definitely still work. It's simply the way that asymmetric 
encryption is designed to work.

Anyone and everyone can have your public key. The public key is all that's 
needed to encrypt a message. Anyone can see/use the public key and anyone 
can encrypt a message with that key.

It's only the private key that can decrypt a message and only the user has 
the private key.

Public key -> Everyone can see the key and everyone can encrypt the message.

Private key -> Only the owner has the key and only the owner can decrypt and 
see the message.

-- 
"M$ Windows is also why computers have a soft-reset button. Apparently Macs 
have them too."

The clueless Dumb Willy
April 8, 2015
<6vefvb-4bf.ln1@user-1842.linux.individual.net>


    The Atari 520ST (1985) rear panel. Left to right:
    RESET switch, Power switch....
    http://classiccmp.org/dunfield/atarist/index.htm

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